Remington 700 sps .204

hedzball

Anyone shooting a 700 sps (Base model)

Major down falls??

heard a timney and stock is a must?

After coming across a nice one in .204







'hdz

dev110

Me personally I wouldn't buy one unless I wanted it as a project rifle.

Like you said you will need a new stock and usually a recrown.

I see you want a PSE stock. That will be ~€500 then a recrown not sure on that and a Timney trigger ~€150.

That is €650 that you could just add onto your budget and more than likely get a tikka.

At the end of the day it is your decision but if it was me I would save up get something that doesn't need to be upgraded.

hedzball

dev110 wrote: »

Me personally I wouldn't buy one unless I wanted it as a project rifle.

Like you said you will need a new stock and usually a recrown.

I see you want a PSE stock. That will be ~€500 then a recrown not sure on that and a Timney trigger ~€150.

That is €650 that you could just add onto your budget and more than likely get a tikka.

At the end of the day it is your decision but if it was me I would save up get something that doesn't need to be upgraded.

Tikka's need new stocks too.. some of the worst out there imo (and others)

Is the 700 action really a bad base to start with?. Project rifle wouldn't be the end of the world either..

its always been a toss between the 204/223 for me but the 204 is winning it so far



'hdz

dev110

I never heard that about the Tikka stocks.

I never said the Remmy action was a bad action to build off. I have an FTR rig built on one.

Do you want a project rifle or do you want something that shoots out of the box?

hedzball

Getting my hands on a 204 tikka is near impossible.

Unless a re-barrel is an option but what kind of money is that running?.





'hdz

hedzball

also the 1:12 twist will do anything up to 39gr but alot of complaints about the 40gr

Hornady are making 27,32,40,45 Dont see 45's or 27 here.. But imagine in time there will be demand for the big 45.

Guessing I should be aiming for a 1:10/9 twist to take the 40/45??



'hdz

dev110

Ok you have a few options here:

Option 1:

Buy a new rifle that will shoot well out of the box. These would be Tikka, CZ, Sako, Higher end Remmy's, Howa

Option 2:

Buy the S/H Remmy sps. Change the stock, trigger and recrown

Option 3:

Buy a cheap .223, or something with similar bolt face as .204, that has a lot of rounds through it. Make sure the action is in good nick. Re-barrel it in .204, stick on your new stock and trigger.

I know if I ever get another hunting rifle I will be getting something that is shot out. I will then re-barrel it and then change other things if needs be.

dev110

I wouldn't know much about the twist rates for a .204 as I never looked into it.
Would the 1-10 have problems running the 32gr stuff then?

Also I have heard the .204 needs a 26" barrel to get the most out of it

hedzball

dev110 wrote: »

I never heard that about the Tikka stocks.

I never said the Remmy action was a bad action to build off. I have an FTR rig built on one.

Do you want a project rifle or do you want something that shoots out of the box?

Prob one of there biggest down falls is the ****ty stocks they have on them..

The super varmint stock is like something from a pound shop!

Something out of the box.

Have the bobs burning me here want to get something before another hobby

'hdz

hedzball

cheers for the above list.

dev110 wrote: »

I wouldn't know much about the twist rates for a .204 as I never looked into it.
Would the 1-10 have problems running the 32gr stuff then?

Also I have heard the .204 needs a 26" barrel to get the most out of it

ya heard that too yet all the custom barrel's are 22/24..

Lot of hearsay on that calibre to be honest..

dev110

You can get a custom barrel any length you want.
If you wanted a normal hunter a 24" would be fine and if all your targets were close range then the 22" would be fine but to push it out further I say the 26" would be the best.

Don't take my word for it as I don't have any experience with the .204 and only going by what I have read.

patsat

hedzball wrote: »

Prob one of there biggest down falls is the ****ty stocks they have on them..

The super varmint stock is like something from a pound shop!

Something out of the box.

Have the bobs burning me here want to get something before another hobby

'hdz

If you think the Tikka has a bad stock you will be surprised how bad the sps stock is!

I own a tikka lite and although the stock wasn't great, it still shot very well! Its getting a new pse stock fitted to it now but it was still shooting and handling well with just the lite stock on it.

On the other hand I have a sps and it would not group well atal! My groups finally closed up after a combination of a recrown, timney trigger and aics!

Its a good base but be prepared to pay good money to get it shooting very well.

lefthooker

hedzball wrote: »

Prob one of there biggest down falls is the ****ty stocks they have on them..

The super varmint stock is like something from a pound shop!

'hdz

Whats so bad about the tikka stock? Especially as we're talking about a calibre with virtually no recoil. That said I wouldn't say no to a PSE Etac, it really is a smashing rig

tomcat220t

hedzball wrote: »

cheers for the above list.







ya heard that too yet all the custom barrel's are 22/24..

Lot of hearsay on that calibre to be honest..

24"-25" is lots in .204 .
1-11 twist is optimum for any of the factory rounds .No need for 1/10 !
Pac-nor make great 1/11 20cal barrels

hedzball

lefthooker wrote: »

Whats so bad about the tikka stock? Especially as we're talking about a calibre with virtually no recoil. That said I wouldn't say no to a PSE Etac, it really is a smashing rig

Hell of alot of flex in the tikka stocks..

Funny enough im from the same town as PSE and chat to edi whenever I have my mad moments ... like this one

patsat wrote: »

If you think the Tikka has a bad stock you will be surprised how bad the sps stock is!

I heard this alri!! What calibre are you shooting?.

I own a tikka lite and although the stock wasn't great, it still shot very well! Its getting a new pse stock fitted to it now but it was still shooting and handling well with just the lite stock on it.

Best of luck with the PSE they really are a SAVAGE piece

On the other hand I have a sps and it would not group well atal! My groups finally closed up after a combination of a recrown, timney trigger and aics!

Its a good base but be prepared to pay good money to get it shooting very well.

For the money 500 bob.. I have all the bits at home bar a mod for it.. cheap gun I would think.. Nice to make a project out of.. I wouldnt be shifting it and putting money into it isn't really a bad move either!

tomcat220t wrote: »

24"-25" is lots in .204 .
1-11 twist is optimum for any of the factory rounds .No need for 1/10 !
Pac-nor make great 1/11 20cal barrels

Cheers dude must look into them!

I think for the sake of a 500 quid gun it really aint a bad move..

There isnt any other 204 out there for that kind of cheap and think If I do pass it up i'll only regret it


'hdz

declan1980

If you're looking to build a project rifle, a tikka is an expensive platform to start from (speaking from experience here), but at the same time they have a great action, and the factory trigger is lovely too. I started with a .223 supervarmint, the first thing i did was thread for a mod, then I changed to a pse stock and had it glass bedded, and then recently I changed the barrel and upgraded the caliber to .243

FISMA

hedzball wrote: »

Anyone shooting a 700 sps (Base model)
Major down falls??
heard a timney and stock is a must?
After coming across a nice one in .204
'hdz

Hedzball,
I'm in the States and have several Rem 700's along with a few Howa 1500's. I have not as of yet bought a Tikka.

The prices I see for new firearms put the Tikka T3 Lite and the SPS at the same level. If I was getting both for the same price, I would get a Tikka.

However, I love my Rem 223, which is used for lamping. To be honest, I think the Howa 1500 in 223 might be the best bang for buck out of the box of the lot.

Anyhow, the Remington trigger isn't great, nor is the stock. She isn't pretty. But if you're at a higher level, so should your rifle.

So what's y'er game? Are you going to be lamping or competition? If you are going out for a lamp, the 700 will be more than adequate for the job.

The 700 action is great. Although, I prefer the long action calibers over the short action.

You don't have to get a Timney trigger, but for the cost, you may wish to do so. Then again, you may also wish to get an AICS stock...

The 700 is the standard firearm in the states, it's tried, true, and tested. Its legacy and longevity speak for itself.

Good luck.

patsat

The tikka I have is a 25-06, and the Remington 700 sps is a 22-250.

If you want a good rifle for foxing, then buy a tikka and you sorted!

But if you want to upgrade the rifle then buy the sps! I bought my sps with the plan of eventually changing everything on it except the action and am wel on the way to doing that!

Chesapeake

Rem sps...................I'd rather be chemically castrated that buy it as a bargin!

Chesapeake

Re: tikka stocks - is fine and works great for many I know, isin't benchrest but, never claimed to be.................usually the operater more than the machine if it a'int working is what I find.

And Fyi: a rem Sps is like ruber in comparision to a tika's plastic.............and I've shot stock tika's at 200M benchrest ranges, ...... sucessfully;........ before you start spouting about pound shop stocks!

zeissman

hedzball wrote: »

Anyone shooting a 700 sps (Base model)

Major down falls??

heard a timney and stock is a must?

After coming across a nice one in .204







'hdz

I bought a new remington vssf 204.
I bought a boyds thumbhole stock and riflebasix trigger shortly afterwards.
It shot the 32 and 39 grain bullets fine but not the 40 grain vmax.
I recently rebarreled it with a lothar walther 1/10 twist barrel and it now shoots the 40 grain vmax accurately.
I would have been better off buying a 2nd hand action at the start.
The most accurate factory 204s that I have shot were the ruger M77VT rifles. I have shot 4 of them and they all shoot the 40 grain vmax great.
They come with a good trigger and stock so you should have a look at them also.
I also know a guy with a howa varmint in 204 and he says it is very accurate with the 40 grain vmax.
I know a dealer who will sell you a howa barreled action if you wanted to get your own stock so thats another option.
You may be happy enough with the remington but if you start changing stuff like I did it can get expensive.

Feisar

Sako Varmint.

I hate the idea of buying a new rifle and dumping everything except the action, if you decide on the SPS

ejg

One thing is often forgotten going the remmy route.
If you change the trigger and stock to something really good it is way better than any factory rifle will have on it. Meaning one will be ahead already. I have never seen proof of say a sporter Sako barrel being better than a sporter remmy barrel, I've quite often seen it the other way round.
At the moment I have a remmy, a T3 and a Sako.
I'm looking for an action to build another remmy.....
edi

zeissman

Feisar wrote: »

Sako Varmint.

I hate the idea of buying a new rifle and dumping everything except the action, if you decide on the SPS

I am a fan of sako rifles and have two at the moment.
When sako brought out the varmint in 204 I ordered one.
I waited 9 months for it but it didnt shoot as well as the ruger varmint I had before so I sold it again and bought the remington.