Talking Rugby Episode 41 - HEC Preview - featuring jacothelad, thomond, phatpiggins

thomond2006

Here it is, our Heineken Cup Final preview. Dave also got a short interview with Media & Communications Officer for the Leinster Branch Peter Breen.

LINK: http://talkingrugby.podomatic.com/entry/2012-05-17T14_26_33-07_00

Thanks to everyone who posted the questions on the other thread, really helped to create good discussion.

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It's the big one! In our second episode this week, Talking Rugby looks ahead to the Heineken Cup Final between Leinster and Ulster.

Dave O'Grady is back as the host and he is joined by Alan, Pedro, William and Michael. Earlier in the week Dave also caught up with Leinster Rugby's Media & Communications Officer Peter Breen.

Coming up on the show:

02:30 - Dave talks to Peter Breen on all things Leinster.

14:40 - We preview the Heineken Cup final! Issues discussed include:
- The influence of Nigel Owens on the scrum.
- Our Leinster/Ulster combination dream team.
- Are Leinster the greatest Heineken Cup team of all time?
- Can Ulster stifle Leinster at the breakdown?
- The fitness of key players e.g. Ferris and O'Driscoll.

47:00 - Ireland have announced their squad to face the Barbarians on May 29. A few of the panelists see this fixture as somewhat pointless!

53:50 - We look at England's squad for the summer tour and a quick mention for the Amlin Challenge Cup final.
1:01:4 - We finish with our Bet of the Week!

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spot on team Pedro.

thomond2006

Hopefully 2 shows in a week is something we can do in the future! We were able to cover everything comprehensively this week between the 2 shows.

danthefan

I assume I can download this and put it on my phone for travelling tomorrow? Have just streamed it previously.

thomond2006

danthefan wrote: »

I assume I can download this and put it on my phone for travelling tomorrow? Have just streamed it previously.

Unfortunately I know little to nothing about phones Dan!

Maybe you can download it onto your PC and transfer it as an audio file onto the phone? I don't know if podomatic streams it on phones, depends on the make probably.

PhatPiggins

Deleted User wrote: »

spot on team Pedro.

Wasn't straightforward at all, lots of marginal calls. Both teams are playing really well. As I said to William the 15 guys I didn't select would make one hell of a team as well.

PhatPiggins

As Alan rightly pointed out after the show Biarritz +3 is available at evens in a few places now. So take that as the BOTW

chris85

Cracking show lads. Good analysis of tomorrows game. Big time looking forward to it.

durkadurka

danthefan wrote: »

I assume I can download this and put it on my phone for travelling tomorrow? Have just streamed it previously.

yeah you can. (Speaking as an expert who only just figured it out). I have an iphone and managed within about 2 minutes - they are big files so be sure to be on wifi. If you download it via itunes you should manage it.

thomond2006

Would ye, as a listener, prefer 2 short shows a week or 1 longer one? Or does it matter?

durkadurka

thomond2006 wrote: »

Would ye, as a listener, prefer 2 short shows a week or 1 longer one? Or does it matter?

maybe on big weeks

duckysauce

bet of the week again lads can i send virtual beers to you cheers

PhatPiggins

duckysauce wrote: »

bet of the week again lads can i send virtual beers to you cheers

You can send it straight to the south of France. That one was all Daithi.

Was hard for him to pick because Toulon revolt him and he thinks Serge Blaco is basically Darth Vader :pac:

duckysauce

PhatPiggins wrote: »

You can send it straight to the south of France. That one was all Daithi.

Was hard for him to pick because Toulon revolt him and he thinks Serge Blaco is basically Darth Vader :pac:

think the beer will be gone off by then , I will drink it myself and pass the karma onto you Daithi.

4PP

PhatPiggins wrote: »

You can send it straight to the south of France. That one was all Daithi.

Was hard for him to pick because Toulon revolt him and he thinks Serge Blaco is basically Darth Vader :pac:

Thank you, most kind

4PP

duckysauce wrote: »

think the beer will be gone off by then , I will drink it myself and pass the karma onto you Daithi.

The thought in itself is sweet enough, slainté

PhatPiggins

4PP wrote: »

Thank you, most kind

Was easy for me to bet against Toulon mind

Big Nelly

On flight in morning, was going to bring Archos to watch a film....f**k that, listened to first show and now will have some happy listening in the morning on flight over for second one....start the build up perfectly.....thanks again guys for some great insight into rugby!!!!!

4PP

Big Nelly wrote: »

On flight in morning, was going to bring Archos to watch a film....f**k that, listened to first show and now will have some happy listening in the morning on flight over for second one....start the build up perfectly.....thanks again guys for some great insight into rugby!!!!!

Grand job, how are things in th gym?

Big Nelly

4PP wrote: »

Grand job, how are things in th gym?

Haven't been this week:D

Pure lazy I was, saving energy for this weekend

Will do before and after pictures when listening to show:eek:

Won't be a healthy picture on Sunday night I can tell you

Will be close to this over weekend so gym guys will not be impressed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M_oBYNb6UU

4PP

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Was easy for me to bet against Toulon mind

Kills me to say it but the "rugby team" beat the "rugby talent".
Toulon would have hammered them if they played as a unit.
Mr Barnes was obligingly blind but alls well that ends well :pac:.

PhatPiggins

4PP wrote: »

Kills me to say it but the "rugby team" beat the "rugby talent".
Toulon should have hammered them if they played as a unit.
Mr Barnes was obligingly blind but alls well that ends well :pac:.

In fairness that's exactly what you said would happen.

Barnes's decline continues. Already removed from the international panel he can't be far off getting pulled from the European panel as well.

duckysauce

4PP wrote: »

Kills me to say it but the "rugby team" beat the "rugby talent".
Toulon would have hammered them if they played as a unit.
Mr Barnes was obligingly blind but alls well that ends well :pac:.

barnes was unreal :eek:

durkadurka

Good show lads although you were sorely lacking a Leinster voice.

Amused to hear my question about the scrum being a cluster fcuk under Owens being used, although devastated to hear thomond exercise self censorship.

PhatPiggins

durkadurka wrote: »

Good show lads although you were sorely lacking a Leinster voice.

Amused to hear my question about the scrum being a cluster fcuk under Owens being used, although devastated to hear thomond exercise self censorship.

Alan tried about 8 different Leinster fans but apparently you lot are all over in London for some match that us down in Munster reckon doesn't mean much any more

durkadurka

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Alan tried about 8 different Leinster fans but apparently you lot are all over in London for some match that us down in Munster reckon doesn't mean much any more

Yep the b and I cup is where it's at alright.

PhatPiggins

durkadurka wrote: »

Yep the b and I cup is where it's at alright.

Winning means nothing unless you've ground some Welsh semi pro's into the dust

durkadurka

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Winning means nothing unless you've ground some Welsh semi pro's into the dust

Ha ha are we talking about Cardiff?

PhatPiggins

durkadurka wrote: »

Ha ha are we talking about Cardiff?

Very good, the way they played against Leinster you could compare them to Cross Keys alright.

thomond2006

Fair play boys, another successful BOTW!

Sindri

thomond2006 wrote: »

Would ye, as a listener, prefer 2 short shows a week or 1 longer one? Or does it matter?

I prefer the shorter shows, they're a lot more concise.

thomond2006

Any questions for our panel for next week's show?

danthefan

Tbh I'd never really listened to a full episode but did so yesterday on the bus from the airport, some very good analysis and I like the way things are looked at in so much depth. Will listen in future for sure.

thomond2006

danthefan wrote: »

Tbh I'd never really listened to a full episode but did so yesterday on the bus from the airport, some very good analysis and I like the way things are looked at in so much depth. Will listen in future for sure.

Cheers dan.

Any questions for the panel everyone? The show might be recorded tonight.

Gracelessly Tom

With all the talk of the French and English trying to move the goalposts in relation to qualification for the Heineken, do the panel feel there is a danger of them removing themselves, or not putting any effort into the competition (a la some of the french teams in the past) if the Irish domination continues for the next few years?

thomond2006

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

With all the talk of the French and English trying to move the goalposts in relation to qualification for the Heineken, do the panel feel there is a danger of them removing themselves, or not putting any effort into the competition (a la some of the french teams in the past) if the Irish domination continues for the next few years?

Interesting one, thanks for posting.

Honestly I don't see their manoeuvres as trying to get out of the HEC, if anything this shows that they see more value in the competition than before. Remember the English/Welsh sides were happy to downgrade the Anglo-Welsh Cup to essentially a "B team" competition.

I will put it to the panel all the same when the subject pops up.

Gracelessly Tom

thomond2006 wrote: »

Honestly I don't see their manoeuvres as trying to get out of the HEC, if anything this shows that they see more value in the competition than before. Remember the English/Welsh sides were happy to downgrade the Anglo-Welsh Cup to essentially a "B team" competition.

I agree, perhaps a follow up question might be "Do the panel think there is potential for the RFU and FFR to try and form a breakaway "bigger" cup or even a Euro Super League, similar to the round ball chatter over the years?"

Personally, don't think they would as the money from their own leagues is far too great but the owners of the clubs might see some potential in the idea. They may see the Rabo and think a bigger, grander, more competitive Euro league could be a runner.

thomond2006

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

I agree, perhaps a follow up question might be "Do the panel think there is potential for the RFU and FFR to try and form a breakaway "bigger" cup or even a Euro Super League, similar to the round ball chatter over the years?"

Personally, don't think they would as the money from their own leagues is far too great but the owners of the clubs might see some potential in the idea. They may see the Rabo and think a bigger, grander, more competitive Euro league could be a runner.

The travel costs are a big stumbling block to a European Super League I think, particularly for the English and French sides that don't have to leave their country for domestic away fixtures.

Any more questions or things ye want discussed? The recording is tonight.

Gracelessly Tom

Ask the panel what they think of reputable journalists pawning off boards members thoughts as their own!

thomond2006

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

Ask the panel what they think of reputable journalists pawning off boards members thoughts as their own!

you forget Tom, we're one of them now... :pac:

thomond2006

Hi lads, we'll be recording in a sec. I'm on with jacothelad and GerM.

PhatPiggins

Ask one of the Leinster panel what was more satisfying for them, Ireland doing the GS or Leinster winning their first HC.

thomond2006

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Ask one of the Leinster panel what was more satisfying for them, Ireland doing the GS or Leinster winning their first HC.

cool will put it to GerM

ray jay

Ask them how they would approach the summer tour to NZ if they were head coach, especially regarding team/squad selection/rotation etc etc.

thomond2006

ray jay wrote: »

Ask them how they would approach the summer tour to NZ if they were head coach, especially regarding team/squad selection/rotation etc etc.

will put it to the lads

thomond2006

All done, might get it published tonight.

I had a nice cut at Kidney and his Irish journo friends (don't worry no name dropping! )

Gracelessly Tom

thomond2006 wrote: »

I had a nice cut at Kidney and his Irish journo friends (don't worry no name dropping! )

Aren't you one of them now though?? :pac: