Obama was born in Kenya..

Daithi 1

Well, here it is. Sh!t should hit the fan...




The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'


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Note from Senior Management:
Andrew Breitbart was never a "Birther," and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of "Birtherism." In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.
Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama's ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him.
It is for that reason that we launched "The Vetting," an ongoing series in which we explore the ideological background of President Obama (and other presidential candidates)--not to re-litigate 2008, but because ideas and actions have consequences.
It is also in that spirit that we discovered, and now present, the booklet described below--one that includes a marketing pitch for a forthcoming book by a then-young, otherwise unknown former president of the Harvard Law Review.
It is evidence--not of the President's foreign origin, but that Barack Obama's public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times.
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Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.
It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.
Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows (image and text below):

Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.

The booklet, which is thirty-six pages long, is printed in blue ink (and, on the cover, silver/grey ink), using offset lithography. It purports to celebrate the fifteenth anniversary of Acton & Dystel, which was founded in 1976.

Front cover (outside) - note Barack Obama listed in alphabetical order

Front cover (inside)

Jay Acton no longer represents Obama. However, Jane Dystel still lists Obama as a client on her agency's website.
According to the booklet itself, the text was edited by Miriam Goderich, who has since become Dystel's partner at Dystel & Goderich, an agency founded in 1994. Breitbart News attempted to reach Goderich by telephone several times over several days. Her calls are screened by an automated service that requires callers to state their name and company, which we did. She never answered.
The design of the booklet was undertaken by Richard Bellsey, who has since closed his business. Bellsey, reached by telephone, could not recall the exact details of the booklet, but told Breitbart News that it "sounds like one of our jobs, like I did for [Acton & Dystel] twenty years ago or more."

The parade of authors alongside Obama in the booklet includes politicians, such as former Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill; sports legends, such as Joe Montana and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar; and numerous Hollywood celebrities.
The reverse side of the page that features Barack Obama includes former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and early-1990s "boy band" pop sensation New Kids On the Block.


Acton, who spoke to Breitbart News by telephone, confirmed precise details of the booklet and said that it cost the agency tens of thousands of dollars to produce.
He indicated that while "almost nobody" wrote his or her own biography, the non-athletes in the booklet, whom "the agents deal[t] with on a daily basis," were "probably" approached to approve the text as presented.
Dystel did not respond to numerous requests for comment, via email and telephone. Her assistant told Breitbart News that Dystel "does not answer questions about Obama."
The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii.
The biography does, however, fit a pattern in which Obama--or the people representing and supporting him--manipulate his public persona.
David Maraniss's forthcoming biography of Obama has reportedly confirmed, for example, that a girlfriend Obama described in Dreams from My Father was, in fact, an amalgam of several separate individuals.
In addition, Obama and his handlers have a history of redefining his identity when expedient. In March 2008, for example, he famously declared: "I can no more disown [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother."
Several weeks later, Obama left Wright's church--and, according to Edward Klein's new biography, The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House, allegedly attempted to persuade Wright not to "do any more public speaking until after the November [2008] election" (51).
Obama has been known frequently to fictionalize aspects of his own life. During his 2008 campaign, for instance, Obama claimed that his dying mother had fought with insurance companies over coverage for her cancer treatments.
That turned out to be untrue, but Obama has repeated the story--which even the Washington Post called "misleading"--in a campaign video for the 2012 election.
The Acton & Dystel biography could also reflect how Obama was seen by his associates, or transitions in his own identity. He is said, for instance, to have cultivated an "international" identity until well into his adulthood, according to Maraniss.

Regardless of the reason for Obama's odd biography, the Acton & Dystel booklet raises new questions as part of ongoing efforts to understand Barack Obama--who, despite four years in office remains a mystery to many Americans, thanks to the mainstream media.

Larry O'Connor contributed to this report.

Monty Burnz

Of course, there's no chance that this could be a mistake, or a fabrication, or an attempt to make the guy they are selling seem more interesting...

This definitely trumps an actual birth certificate.

al28283

Is that a legal document like the birth cert?

Daithi 1

yeah, it's all above board.

watch this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLzJz2A2N1c

al28283

al28283 wrote: »

Is that a legal document like the birth cert?

Duh, birth certs can been faked or mistaken, unlike a booklet from a literary agent.

bradlente

In West Philadelphia bron and raised....

LeinsterDub

King Mob wrote: »

al28283 wrote: »

Is that a legal document like the birth cert?

Duh, birth certs can been faked or mistaken, unlike a booklet from a literary agent.

Just for the laugh do explain why a booklet can't be faked?

Daithi 1

How about his wife calling Kenya his home country ? DUH DUH how much more evidence do you need ?

Mena

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Just for the laugh do explain why a booklet can't be faked?

Your sarcasm detector = borked.

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

How about his wife calling Kenya his home country ? DUH DUH how much more evidence do you need ?

How is that evidence exactly?

LeinsterDub

Mena wrote: »

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Just for the laugh do explain why a booklet can't be faked?

Your sarcasm detector = borked.

Doh thought king Mob was the op

Daithi 1

al28283 wrote: »

How is that evidence exactly?

Would your wife/mother whatever, accidentally call Kenya, your home Country ?

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Would your wife/mother whatever, accidentally call Kenya, your home Country ?

If she did, would that make it true?

Attabear

Daithi 1 wrote: »

how much more evidence do you need ?

Lots.

Daithi 1

al28283 wrote: »

If she did, would that make it true?

It would make it very likely. On Earth like.

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It would make it very likely. On Earth like.

So it's not evidence then

Daithi 1

Attabear wrote: »

Lots.

Lots is available.

Daithi 1

al28283 wrote: »

So it's not evidence then

I'm pretty sure that constitutes evidence.

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that constitutes evidence.

yea but it doesn't

Daithi 1

al28283 wrote: »

yea but it doesn't

Yeah.. it does.

Bring up a definition there..

studiorat

It also say's New Kids on the Block are America's Hottest pop group when everybody knows it was Boys 11 Men. Someone clearly just made the whole thing up.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

yeah, it's all above board.

watch this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLzJz2A2N1c

And Ireland was JFK's homeland...rhetoric, eh?

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Yeah.. it does.

Bring up a definition there..

Michelle Obama wasn't present at his birth, so anything she says about it is second hand information. Then there's the matter of context, for example many Irish Americans might call Ireland their home country, same for Italian Americans etc.

This kinda thing matters when discussing evidence.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

And Ireland was JFK's homeland...rhetoric, eh?

lol, pull the other one.

Daithi 1

al28283 wrote: »

Michelle Obama wasn't present at his birth, so anything she says about it is second hand information. Then there's the matter of context, for example many Irish Americans might call Ireland their home country, same for Italian Americans etc.

This kinda thing matters when discussing evidence.

Hey !! thats not a definition !!

I wonder why you didnt bring up the definition

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

lol, pull the other one.

So it's not possible that she could have meant it in the sense that it is where his forefathers come from?

Or is my sarcasm detector borked also?

al28283

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Hey !! thats not a definition !!

I wonder why you didnt bring up the definition

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evidence

Here you go, your example doesn't qualify

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

How about his wife calling Kenya his home country ? DUH DUH how much more evidence do you need ?

But "home country" isn't a legal term. It does not simply mean the country your were legally born in.
It can equally mean the country you were raised in, the country were you currently live or lived for a significant amount of time, the country were your family where from, the country were your ancestors were from...

This is why the context of the quote is important, and is why it was left out of your "evidence" since it does not support the conspiracy.

So why would his wife be stupid enough to give the whole game away, in your narrative were this out of context quote is evidence?

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

So it's not possible that she could have meant it in the sense that it is where his forefathers come from?

Or is my sarcasm detector borked also?

It's possible. I highly doubt that's the case though.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It's possible.

Fair enough.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I highly doubt that's the case though.

Ok, I guess we just disagree on what the weight of evidence indicates.

Daithi 1

King Mob wrote: »

But "home country" isn't a legal term. It does not simply mean the country your were legally born in.
It can equally mean the country you were raised in, the country were you currently live or lived for a significant amount of time, the country were your family where from, the country were your ancestors were from...

This is why the context of the quote is important, and is why it was left out of your "evidence" since it does not support the conspiracy.

So why would his wife be stupid enough to give the whole game away, in your narrative were this out of context quote is evidence?

So it was definelty rhetoric then.

Right again mob.

Case closed.

:pac:

Daithi 1

Why do yous think he produced a fake birth certificate ?

Torakx

pathological liar? lol
He is a politician after all

gibraltar

Daithi 1 wrote: »

How about his wife calling Kenya his home country ? DUH DUH how much more evidence do you need ?

So the massive con that resulted in getting him elected and faking all the documents was a waste of time because his wife made a public speech and let the cat out of the bag, so close!

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Why do yous think he produced a fake birth certificate ?

BTW why do you think people who have the power to get obama elected president of America dont have the ability to produce a fake birth cert that is as good as the real thing?

Really do you think it would be easier to get someone made president than forge a birth cert?

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Why do yous think he produced a fake birth certificate ?

Ah but he didn't. That's been totally debunked. The claims of photoshopping turned out to be total horse manure.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

So it was definelty rhetoric then.

Right again mob.

Case closed.

:pac:

Good thing you went with the sarcasm otherwise it would look exactly like you aren't able to address the points put to you.

Daithi 1

gibraltar wrote: »

So the massive con that resulted in getting him elected and faking all the documents was a waste of time because his wife made a public speech and let the cat out of the bag, so close!

It happens.

gibraltar wrote: »

BTW why do you think people who have the power to get obama elected president of America dont have the ability to produce a fake birth cert that is as good as the real thing?

Because it was proven to be fake, and not real.

gibraltar wrote: »

Really do you think it would be easier to get someone made president than forge a birth cert?

No.

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Ah but he didn't. That's been totally debunked. The claims of photoshopping turned out to be total horse manure.

Link ? Are you talking about the investigation by Joe Arpaio?

Run_to_da_hills

The black pastor of this church has had death threats.

Daithi 1

King Mob wrote: »

Good thing you went with the sarcasm otherwise it would look exactly like you aren't able to address the points put to you.

I give up on the wife slip up, bit of a dead horse.

I'm go with the leaflet thing again.. Should be easy enough to the authenticity of the leaflet, if it actually exists.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Link ? Are you talking about the investigation by Joe Arpaio?

Yes, and any other 'investigation' (the Arpaio one was clearly designed to distract from the legal trouble he is in).

Even Faux News have given up on this one:

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”
Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.
“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I give up on the wife slip up, bit of a dead horse.

I'm go with the leaflet thing again.. Should be easy enough to the authenticity of the leaflet, if it actually exists.

And the leaflet, if it exists, couldn't simply be mistaken because...?

And again, in you narrative, why does the leaflet contain information to contradict the official story?

profitius

Photoshop experts say its 100% a fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk

Monty Burnz

profitius wrote: »

Photoshop experts say its 100% a fake.

But it turns out these 'experts' were talking out of their asses and don't understand how the OCR creates layers in PDFs.

Daithi 1

911 was an inside job !!:D

KingMonkey

of course it was...there is no spoon...i thought people were born,not bron?

profitius

Monty Burnz wrote: »

But it turns out these 'experts' were talking out of their asses and don't understand how the OCR creates layers in PDFs.

Do you?

Monty Burnz

profitius wrote: »

Do you?

Clearly I understand it better than the guy in the video.

gibraltar

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Because it was proven to be fake, and not real.


No.

So its fake and its not real, ok we have a massive conspiracy to pervert the US elections and change the face of world politics, must be a very impressive cabal behind a plan like that.

Too bad they did not have access to a someone who knew how to use photo-shop.

Daithi 1

gibraltar wrote: »

So its fake and its not real, ok we have a massive conspiracy to pervert the US elections and change the face of world politics, must be a very impressive cabal behind a plan like that.

Too bad they did not have access to a someone who knew how to use photo-shop.

Wasnt the fact that the birth cert was fabricated on a computer ie photoshop ?

gibraltar

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Wasnt the fact that the birth cert was fabricated on a computer ie photoshop ?

Again - you believe that a sinister cabal capable of controlling elections and altering the face of politics are somehow incapable of faking a birth cert?

And this was proved by "experts" like Alex Jones...

Run_to_da_hills

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Wasnt the fact that the birth cert was fabricated on a computer ie photoshop ?

American radio chat show on the subject. One interesting point is that Obama is in an untouchable position for people to investigate. Something that has never happened before in US history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFh3kSY_gnE