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Advice needed on whether to buy a 2nd hand machine or build a new one?
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16-05-2012 5:42pm#1
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thanks for the reply, i have filled out the below. Reason the other machine peaked my interest was it included a lot of bits like monitor keyboard and mouse etc for €500. Might even be able to talk them into selling just the PC for less then use the money i save to upgrade it.
1. What is your budget? [€500]
2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming battlefield 3 etc . I have both consoles so the point of the rig is high quality smooth graphics]
3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [No]
4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No brand new build, i even need a case. Could get away with using my keyboard.
5. Do you need a monitor? [No]
5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]
5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080] [Not unless i need to]
6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Prob just a gaming mouse.
7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Not against it just not sure how to do it
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8. How can you pay? [cash/credit card]
9. When are you purchasing? [In 10-30 days time]0 -
That 2nd hand computer is pretty bad, but the peripherals are worth about €300-€350 new
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€500-€600 euro isn't a great budget when you have to factor in peripherals and the fact that you want to play BF3. I'd recommend waiting a few more months so you can get a great rig.
Something like this would destroy the other rig:
Item|Price
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155|€215.17
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€88.73
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€33.65
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€41.15
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil|€55.04
Sapphire HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express|€227.54
LiteOn iHAS124-19 schwarz SATA|€17.83
Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II (HD502HJ)|€71.26
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€83.45
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€852.81
That could play everything well at 1080p and has a great CPU. It really is worth saving up a bit more instead of buying a bad/mediocre one now that isn't upgradeable at all. So start saving!
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That 2nd hand computer is pretty bad, but the peripherals are worth about €300-€350 new.
€500-€600 euro isn't a great budget when you have to factor in peripherals and the fact that you want to play BF3. I'd recommend waiting a few more months so you can get a great rig.
That could play everything well at 1080p and has a great CPU. It really is worth saving up a bit more instead of buying a bad/mediocre one now that isn't upgradeable at all. So start saving!
That's the dilemma, looking at the extra's it does make the deal a bit better (It is worth the 500 euro I just want to see if i could build a new version for the same money). I totally understand I am better off waiting and getting a better machine but to be honest I can't afford to spend 800 on a PC i'm pushing it at around the 500 mark and if i dont get it now I will spend my money on something stupid like a holiday away
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Thanks for the replies guys, looks to be unanimous that the 2nd hand one isn't a great machine which is a shame as i would have liked to have just bought a built one and then upgraded it as needs be over the summer when ever i had some spare cash.
Think i just got focused on the extra's (which if im really honest i don't need) 0 -
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Thanks for all the help guys I do want one that is somewhat future proof so i can upgrade, so I think a good base unit that has flexible up-gradable options is the best way to go.
If i buy it on payday then live on beans for a month i could prob do it
Im thinking this build is the one to go for I have windows 7 and a decent monitor, also have a USB DVD drive and keyboard that could keep me going until i could add better options further down the line.
Item Price
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €35.69
ASRock Z77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX €90.77
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155 €189.79
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's €62.56
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W €53.96
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil €55.04
Shipping €18.99
Total €506.800 -
Right so now pay day is here it is time to bite the bullet and order. So far i have in my basket
ASRock Z77 Pro3, socket 1155, ATX (€92)
Intel Core i5 2500 (€191)
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667u CL9 (€36)
Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD 2.5”SATA (€110)
BitFenic Merc Alpha (€32)
That cost 460euro.
All im missing is my power unit, I was warned to spend a bit more on that as if it blows up it takes everything with it.
So is this one up to the job? or am i better off spending a few extra quid.
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W (€52)
Then last part is the graphics card. I have been looking at the HD7850 there have been 2 mentioned here one powercooler the other the Sapphire, is there any difference between those two or is it pretty much just the casing that is different? Also I have been told that Nvidea have a new range out now so the previous models have just dropped down and i could get a really good one of those for a bit less that will do the same job?
One last thing on here http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articlesearch.jsp they have two versions of the Sapphire HD7850 but one is a OC version im assuming thats over clocked? Is that the better one or is there some reason why they are different? only 2 euro in the difference but want to make sure it will work.
Again thanks for any input and sorry for the lack of technical knowledge 0 -
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Serephucus wrote: »Well just bear in mind that the 2500 and the 2500K are different processors, so don't get the wrong one.
Oh man this gets more confusing, im terrified of that happening when i go to build it i have all the wrong parts
this is the one in my basket
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224&agid=16170 -
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Machine turned up yesterday, spent the day installing windows and drivers etc. Had to open it up and plug back in the HHD but all works super fast and smooth.
Installed Steam, Origin, Onlive straight away so have around 250 games between all them. Onlve works like a charm on it played Metro 2033 perfectly.
Got SWTOR downloaded over night and just downloading Arma 2 for the day Z mod.
Have BF3, Crysis 1 ultimate edition and the secret world on the way.
Think that should be enough to get me going. 0 -
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