US Military Document Reveals Re-Education Camps FM-3-19-40

superluck

According to some reports, the US government are planning to setup re-education camps for political dissidents.

You can read the manual here

Was this already discussed?

Are people over-reacting to the contents of the document?

What are they preparing for? Mass civil unrest?

humanji

superluck wrote: »

What are they preparing for? Mass civil unrest?

I've only read the intro so far, but yeah, that's exactly what it's for. After the US invades a country and are trying to get some sort of government in place, there will obviously be elements that will try and undermine the process. If these elements are caught, it's better to try and win them over than to put them in a prison where naked pictuers of them will be taken with power-crazed soldiers. Otherwise, they'll get out eventually and continue their vendetta.

It makes sense to me.

Is there a list of the more controversial notes in the document? It's a bit much for a casual perusal.

Run_to_da_hills

superluck wrote: »

According to some reports, the US government are planning to setup re-education camps for political dissidents.

You can read the manual here

Was this already discussed?

Are people over-reacting to the contents of the document?

What are they preparing for? Mass civil unrest?

The Authorities already know at the press of a button who all the subversives are through social networking records and text messages etc.

If there is going to be mass demonstrations prior to the presidential elections the authorities will be keeping an eye out for them so that he can send them off to education camps when the time comes.

humanji

Run to da hills, you've been warned before to cut out your propaganda pictures. Give it a rest.

studiorat

Usual story, usual suspects...

Run_to_da_hills

FEMA "Internment resettlement Specialist" recruitment opportunities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkkbsy5QHEg

But did we all not hear the word "internment" used before????

Long Kesh internment camp near Lisburn in Antrim.

superluck

studiorat wrote: »

Usual story, usual suspects...

I was gonna say something sarcastic in response to this but I'll sleep on it.

I'm well aware of Alex "Fear Monger" Jones and how he exploits fear of people to make money.

However, there's something even more odd going in the minds of people throughout industrialised nations that would believe US kleptocracy is some champion of freedom and not guilty of terrible crimes throughout the world presently.

Maybe there could be re-education camps in the future for US citizens, it might not happen in the next 5 years but 10 years and beyond, it's not unreasonable to think there could be.

Considering some of the legislation enacted over the last 10 years which is slowly eroding liberties of US citizens.

Protest about it? HA! The 'Trespass Bill' effectively destroys your freedom to protest anywhere near government officials...

As I said about our own politicians in Ireland, you have the right to protest and be heard but nobody in government is paying any attention or even gives a sh!t.

Monty Burnz

superluck wrote: »

However, there's something even more odd going in the minds of people throughout industrialised nations that would believe US kleptocracy is some champion of freedom and not guilty of terrible crimes throughout the world presently.

You are bit late to the party. This "orthodox view" you are fighting hasn't existed outside the US since the 1960s.

superluck

Late to the party? Most of the hippies from 60s are now running the US

Monty Burnz

superluck wrote: »

Late to the party? Most of the hippies from 60s are now running the US

Busy hippies! The point I'm making is that if you are talking to a thinking adult, you don't need to point out that the Yanks are the not white-hatted good guys - we know. They could be a lot worse than they are, however.

studiorat

Alex on Russia Todayski. The irony is compelling. Would seem the US are behind the curve on Re-education compared to Russia, or China for that matter.

Monty Burnz

studiorat wrote: »

Alex on Russia Todayski. The irony is compelling. Would seem the US are behind the curve on Re-education compared to Russia, or China for that matter.

Don't be silly. We are in Bizarro World here, where Russia is straight, noble and true, while America is a corrupt dictatorship run by a mafia. I wonder how many of those espousing those views have been to Russia and the US? Or know any Russians or Yanks?

superluck

*sigh*

What a load of rubbish.

It's laughable to see people come out in defence of US foreign policy like yourselves. It's like I said before, some people are just conditioned from an early age to believe they're on the moral high ground while they go about killing people around the world for profit.

Whoever argued either Russia or China were "good guys" except you 2 with your blinkers on?


I won't humiliate either of you this time about the amount of weapons US exports compared with Russia/China or the amount of wars and people murdered all over the world because of US foreign policy.

I read a story today which illustrates how utterly ludicrous your beliefs are.

Bush ....I mean Obama OKs Weapons sale to Bahrain.

Yes, you read correctly, Bahrain...you know that country where thousands have been persecuted for protesting against the government but hasn't been reported much on the news? yeah..

The State Department has said it will allow a multi-million-dollar weapons shipment to the Bahraini government, citing "national security interests.

So there you go, hypocrisy at it's finest.

The next time I see Susan Rice on TV talking about democracy and human rights in Syria, I'm going to puke.

Pathetic US supporters need a reality check.
They talk about CTrs being "insane" ?

How ironic.

Run_to_da_hills

superluck wrote: »

Obama OKs Weapons sale to Bahrain

Pathetic US supporters need a reality check.
They talk about CTrs being "insane" ?

How ironic.

Nothing would surprise me about Obama.

He deliberately sends his secret agents out terrorizing the world's airline industries as "underwear bombers" while at the same time he tries to justify microchipping his own troops. God only knows what he is thinking about next. :eek:

I have a special thread in CT dedicated to the man.

Torakx

Dont forget Obama probalby doesnt decide these things, but rather take orders and acts as the face of policy.
Just like the mastermind Bush.

studiorat

superluck wrote: »

*sigh*

What a load of rubbish.

It's laughable to see people come out in defence of US foreign policy like yourselves. It's like I said before, some people are just conditioned from an early age to believe they're on the moral high ground while they go about killing people around the world for profit.

Whoever argued either Russia or China were "good guys" except you 2 with your blinkers on?


I won't humiliate either of you this time about the amount of weapons US exports compared with Russia/China or the amount of wars and people murdered all over the world because of US foreign policy.

I read a story today which illustrates how utterly ludicrous your beliefs are.

Bush ....I mean Obama OKs Weapons sale to Bahrain.

Yes, you read correctly, Bahrain...you know that country where thousands have been persecuted for protesting against the government but hasn't been reported much on the news? yeah..



So there you go, hypocrisy at it's finest.

The next time I see Susan Rice on TV talking about democracy and human rights in Syria, I'm going to puke.

Pathetic US supporters need a reality check.
They talk about CTrs being "insane" ?

How ironic.

Get over yourself. No one is supporting anybody. Your post is just rubbish...

Monty Burnz

superluck wrote: »

*sigh*

What a load of rubbish.

It's laughable to see people come out in defence of US foreign policy like yourselves. It's like I said before, some people are just conditioned from an early age to believe they're on the moral high ground while they go about killing people around the world for profit.

Whoever argued either Russia or China were "good guys" except you 2 with your blinkers on?


I won't humiliate either of you this time about the amount of weapons US exports compared with Russia/China or the amount of wars and people murdered all over the world because of US foreign policy.

I read a story today which illustrates how utterly ludicrous your beliefs are.

Bush ....I mean Obama OKs Weapons sale to Bahrain.

Yes, you read correctly, Bahrain...you know that country where thousands have been persecuted for protesting against the government but hasn't been reported much on the news? yeah..



So there you go, hypocrisy at it's finest.

The next time I see Susan Rice on TV talking about democracy and human rights in Syria, I'm going to puke.

Pathetic US supporters need a reality check.
They talk about CTrs being "insane" ?

How ironic.

To be honest, I've had enough of you arguing against beliefs that I don't have and throwing in loads of insults, so for the first time in a long time I'm going to hit the ignore button. Cheerio.

humanji

Superluck, nobody is defending the US here, so stop building strawmen by claiming they are.

superluck

Humanji, who was defending Russia and China? It certainly wasn't me but as you can clearly see, MB and SR brought it up.

If MB is referring to our previous discussion about Baby-Eater Putin, I think he can atleast acknowledge his "leaked" bombshell "evidence" was hearsay from someone affiliated with the Russian mafia and hardly a reliable source.
But this didn't stop several major news organisations carrying the story as fact...

And if nobody is defending US foreign policy here, why does MB and studiorat get so rattled by my post?

Pretty obvious they turn a blind eye to attrocities carried out by one side of the fence in my humble opinion.

Usually that kind of behaviour is described as hypocrisy, not sure what MB and SR would call it.

What is "rubbish" specifically about my post SR? that Obama is just as big a war monger as Bush was?

studiorat

Go on then. Tell us about these re-education camps. What reports are you talking about?
Did you actually read the document? Looks to me like you didn't bother yourself. All it does is change terminology and align some other instructions.

There's no been no new legislation passed.
It references documents and procedures from 2006, so what's the scoop?

Your post is meaningless drivel because there's nothing new. Jones is telling people it's been leaked, it wasn't. The document is 2 years old and freely available through US government websites. It can be found on the Global Security website under Army Field Manuals! :pac:

superluck

I knew it wasn't leaked before you even mentioned and I knew it was another BS story by Jones but I just wanted to see if you or genius MB would even bother to look into it and give a constructive response -- you didn't.

Your last post isn't bad but you still couldn't help adding in more digs at me... which I enjoy reading btw, so keep it up.

studiorat

superluck wrote: »

I knew it wasn't leaked before you even mentioned and I knew it was another BS story by Jones but I just wanted to see if you or genius MB would even bother to look into it and give a constructive response -- you didn't.

I'm flattered you'd take the time to test us like that, must be a quiet day. Did you read the document yourself?

What's your opinion on the actual document or the reports?

superluck

I didn't read the document because I've been in the army before and learned to never follow policies and procedures.

Yes, there are "rules" but manuals are just a formality and look good in hollywood films but it's not how you get the job done.

When you're in the army, you take orders from a superior officer, that's it.
If you were ordered to waterboard a suspected subversive, you don't ask questions about the legality or morality of it, you just do it.

Most big corporations have induction training on health and safety procedures but most people yawn through the video presentations and forget everything they saw before starting the job.

The whole process is just to satisfy some pencil pusher behind a desk into thinking he's making the world a safer place.

Why would the army need manuals showing them how to treat political dissidents? It's utterly ridiculous to believe you'd need a manual for that so of course the story is just more fear mongering from Alex Jones who must be nearly ready to retire at this stage with the fortune he's amassed over the years.

Jonny7

superluck wrote: »

I didn't read the document because I've been in the army before and learned to never follow policies and procedures.

Yes, there are "rules" but manuals are just a formality and look good in hollywood films but it's not how you get the job done.

When you're in the army, you take orders from a superior officer, that's it.
If you were ordered to waterboard a suspected subversive, you don't ask questions about the legality or morality of it, you just do it.

Most big corporations have induction training on health and safety procedures but most people yawn through the video presentations and forget everything they saw before starting the job.

The whole process is just to satisfy some pencil pusher behind a desk into thinking he's making the world a safer place.

Why would the army need manuals showing them how to treat political dissidents? It's utterly ridiculous to believe you'd need a manual for that so of course the story is just more fear mongering from Alex Jones who must be nearly ready to retire at this stage with the fortune he's amassed over the years.

Weren't your previous posts supportive of the war just a short while ago?

Torakx

If i remember some of superlucks posts, i think he can have an extremely dry sense of humour sometimes lol

superluck

jonny7 wrote:

Weren't your previous posts supportive of the war just a short while ago?

Yes, but only making money from war, not actually picking up a weapon and fighting one -- perish the thought as I'm sure most would.

But given the choice to actually profit and death and destruction of another country, why not?

I don't mind watching the mayhem unfold from the comfort of my barco lounger.