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Mardi Gras 2012..will they expand on it?

  • 10-05-2012 7:49pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭


    So are they going totry build on this weekend?

    Myabe changing the running of it

    The one 2 years ago was great


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    bigpink wrote: »
    So are they going totry build on this weekend?

    Myabe changing the running of it

    The one 2 years ago was great

    Hopefully!

    I have to say I thought last year was great too.

    A few w****rs caused trouble but it was generally great craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭NeirBot


    Are there any plans to have a Mardi Gras this year?

    A quick google and I can't find anything about it happening...?

    I'd like to see it as I was working and couldn't enjoy it properly last year!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Surely its being pushed by the market quarter people and limerick local heroes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    AFAIK its not happening this year.

    The LLH 4th of July is actually happening on the same date as Mardi Gras last year. But as far as I know, its not going ahead due to the amount of bad press it got.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭ZombieBride


    I thought it was a shambles last year,wouldn't go again if it was on the same route as last time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    The Snipe wrote: »
    AFAIK its not happening this year.

    The LLH 4th of July is actually happening on the same date as Mardi Gras last year. But as far as I know, its not going ahead due to the amount of bad press it got.

    Hopefully it'll be the same kinda street party set-up. I really enjoyed it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    How could they run it right?

    Make the drinkzone over 18s only...no drink allowed bought in

    That way the scobes prob wouldnt bother


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Is 4th July in the Market Quarter to replace Mardi Gras or will it benefit the whole city?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    bigpink wrote: »
    How could they run it right?

    Make the drinkzone over 18s only...no drink allowed bought in

    That way the scobes prob wouldnt bother
    I hear they're gonna get the Tupac hologram and have it do a gig as far away from the rest of us as possible ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Unfortunately these type of events draw every scobe and their umpa lumpa slappers into the city like moths to light. Even if they are not left into the specific area where it is on they will do their utmost outside it to cause as much trouble as possible and drag the city's image into the gutter.

    They totally infested the last one and ended up being the main talking point rather than the event itself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Hopefully it'll be the same kinda street party set-up. I really enjoyed it.

    Its not going to be the same setup. With Mardi-Gras you were confined to a specific area. With the 4th of July, there will be a "pub trail" I guess you could call it, called route 66, where all the different bars put on different entertainment. But that will be across the city, not just in the quarter.
    bigpink wrote: »
    Is 4th July in the Market Quarter to replace Mardi Gras or will it benefit the whole city?

    The 4th of July is going to be across the entire city, from UL, to Peoples Park, to Aurthur Quay Park, everything from Gigs, to twilight markets, to Tai-Chi and angel card readings.

    langdang wrote: »
    I hear they're gonna get the Tupac hologram and have it do a gig as far away from the rest of us as possible ;-)


    Thats genius! :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭SarahBeep!


    What they have planned sounds great Snipey, when's the official announcement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Launch is going to be in King Johns Castle sometime next week I think. I'll let ye know! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Pity, it was nice the first year.
    Really disappointed that scobes ruin what could could have been another good night for Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Pity, it was nice the first year.
    Really disappointed that scobes ruin what could could have been another good night for Limerick.

    I still haven't made my mind up about whether it was the scobes or the constant nagging (and over-reacting) of the decent ordinary folk who ruined it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Unfortunately these type of events draw every scobe and their umpa lumpa slappers into the city like moths to light. Even if they are not left into the specific area where it is on they will do their utmost outside it to cause as much trouble as possible and drag the city's image into the gutter.

    They totally infested the last one and ended up being the main talking point rather than the event itself.

    this, any time there's something on in Limerick that might be good for the city, scummers have to ruin it. I've been to things in Galways and Cork and you might see a few heads around but here its something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭James McNulty


    I wasnt at Mardi Gras 2010 but seems to have been a success baesd on previous posts here.

    Mardi Gras 2011 has been called "Mardi Brawl", "Gardai Gras" etc etc etc.....the event in 2011 seems to have been based at families and don't ask me what gob****e came up with the concept of aiming an adult themed festival everywhere else in the world (New Orleans etc etc) and turning it into a family event in Limerick.

    This was in the Limerick Leader last year
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/lifestyle/entertainment/limerick-set-for-mardi-gras-street-party-1-2821001
    Tony Enright explained that it is a family-friendly event.
    “It will be fantastic. Access will be controlled and it will be all plastic glasses - the emphasis is very much on this being a family event,” he added.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I wasnt at Mardi Gras 2010 but seems to have been a success baesd on previous posts here.

    Mardi Gras 2011 has been called "Mardi Brawl", "Gardai Gras" etc etc etc.....the event in 2011 seems to have been based at families and don't ask me what gob****e came up with the concept of aiming an adult themed festival everywhere else in the world (New Orleans etc etc) and turning it into a family event in Limerick.

    This was in the Limerick Leader last year
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/lifestyle/entertainment/limerick-set-for-mardi-gras-street-party-1-2821001
    Tony Enright explained that it is a family-friendly event.
    “It will be fantastic. Access will be controlled and it will be all plastic glasses - the emphasis is very much on this being a family event,” he added.

    the same person who put it on at the wrong time of year :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Its plain and simple... the event was great but the people they left in werent - just like any where or anything else. If the security arent going to filter out the trash no one will want to go there. Same as any pub or club.

    When they get the securities act sorted out then it'll get a good name again. Cant be any more clear cut than that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Maybe run the family side of it 5 to 8 and then start the drinkzone at 10pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    bigpink wrote: »
    Maybe run the family side of it 5 to 8 and then start the drinkzone at 10pm


    With the 4th of July, there is a family thing all day and night -- with things for both drinkers and non-drinkers with all different routes that people can take throughout the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Its plain and simple... the event was great but the people they left in werent - just like any where or anything else. If the security arent going to filter out the trash no one will want to go there. Same as any pub or club.

    When they get the securities act sorted out then it'll get a good name again. Cant be any more clear cut than that.

    Thing is they did stop alot of scumers from getting in. But all that did was make them cause some amount of trouble at the entrances of the event and then onto the adjacent streets. I remember seeing mobs of them on O'Connell Street/Patrick Street drinking booze, fighting and shouting with each other, real animals, which must have been very intimedating for the tourists who were also there at the time.

    Having altercations with the Gardai is a way of life for these scobes, just like their parents did when they were young, doing it at these events in front of an audience makes them look hard to their peers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    The main problem with Mardi Gras was that was it was so confined, fitting that many people into such a small area with booze involved was asking for trouble.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    The Snipe wrote: »
    The main problem with Mardi Gras was that was it was so confined, fitting that many people into such a small area with booze involved was asking for trouble.

    Was thinking the same the parade should not have been in the drink zone


    4TH of July is Wednesday this year not sure will that draw a crowd

    The thing with riverfest and mardi gras i know from my brother is that only few places benefit so they should look at heading all the city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    bigpink wrote: »
    Was thinking the same the parade should not have been in the drink zone


    4TH of July is Wednesday this year not sure will that draw a crowd

    The thing with riverfest and mardi gras i know from my brother is that only few places benefit so they should look at heading all the city


    4th of July is concentrating on the entire city.

    yes its on the Wednesday, but there is plans that hopefully within the next few years that when its on the Saturday, that we will have the largest 4th of July Festival outside of America.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Sounds good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Gallee


    I was at the Mardi Gras last year as well. What really pissed me off was the trouble on the streets. While standing in the street we were almost assaulted by a load of thugs and I saw this on you tube which was next to us

    The organizers then had this clown on the local radio saying there was no trouble at Mardi Gras and no arrests...unbelievable. Surely someone with better PR or communication skills could have smoothed things over or at least told the truth. This then really annoyed me....(listen to the audio - Car crash radio!!!)

    http://www.live95fm.ie/news/news-item/organiser-of-limericks-mardi-gras-says-their-event-was-trouble-free/1c36c1a9-1088-4ecd-9cf3-02bc9f084873

    This M.G. was an absolute disaster. I left the area immediately as a group of us were frightned the atmosphere was that bad. Bad enough the trouble makers ruined the night but this guy says "no trouble here" - sure hope the July 4th people are'nt asking him for advice or help on organizing their gig.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    The Snipe wrote: »
    The main problem with Mardi Gras was that was it was so confined, fitting that many people into such a small area with booze involved was asking for trouble.

    It actually isn't if it's properly policed. Race week in Galway has bigger crowds on Quay street for Ladies day but the organisers are far more clued in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    The Snipe wrote: »
    The main problem with Mardi Gras was that was it was so confined, fitting that many people into such a small area with booze involved was asking for trouble.

    It actually isn't if it's properly policed. Race week in Galway has bigger crowds on Quay street for Ladies day but the organisers are far more clued in.

    Very true but consider you can't develop unless you make mistakes, so its all about learning from them really! :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    The Snipe wrote: »
    Very true but consider you can't develop unless you make mistakes, so its all about learning from them really! :P



    Well when the "mistakes" can lead to a member or members of the public getting injured, then learning from mistakes is really not the way to plan an event. Instead you get in people with plenty of genuine experience of similar events and you err on the side of caution with regards to security and also make arrangements with the local police force.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    The Snipe wrote: »
    Very true but consider you can't develop unless you make mistakes, so its all about learning from them really! :P

    I agree completely, the event should go ahead and hopefully improve each year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Kess73 wrote: »
    The Snipe wrote: »
    Very true but consider you can't develop unless you make mistakes, so its all about learning from them really! :P



    Well when the "mistakes" can lead to a member or members of the public getting injured, then learning from mistakes is really not the way to plan an event. Instead you get in people with plenty of genuine experience of similar events and you err on the side of caution with regards to security and also make arrangements with the local police force.
    Decoy gig FTW! Tupac headlines "scobe-apalooza" in abandoned storage facility for unstable and flammable chemicals...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    langdang wrote: »
    Decoy gig FTW! Tupac headlines "scobe-apalooza" in abandoned storage facility for unstable and flammable chemicals...



    I like it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Segregate. Eliminate. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    I see on the Market Quarter Facebook page they put up Friday Night a new festival for the June Bank Holiday Weekend....a "Decades Festival"

    Short notice buts maybe they are building on Mardi Gras


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Spotted the poster in O'Connells last night, I'll snap it and put it up later on when I'm in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    bigpink wrote: »
    I see on the Market Quarter Facebook page they put up Friday Night a new festival for the June Bank Holiday Weekend....a "Decades Festival"

    Short notice buts maybe they are building on Mardi Gras

    This has been running in cork for a few years. Every venue picks a different era, encourages people to dress up in the various era's style and music +entertainment from era is provided for the night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Sounds like a great idea,how does it go down in Cork?

    Any idea what will be on for it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    bigpink wrote: »
    Sounds like a great idea,how does it go down in Cork?

    Any idea what will be on for it?

    I haven't attended but it has been huge success in cork by all accounts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Asked a cork friend about it and they said last years one wasnt great,they said too many decades,not many dressing up,too many venues.They said most people that did dress up did 70s and 80s they said a 80s festival prob be better overall

    Wonder would the patrons of Market Quater pubs get into the spirit,nancys seems to be the only one i think would

    It needs a street party element.if it was catherine street bourkes,tom collins flas etc would be great


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Well, I'm sure O'Connells would get into the spirit. I was in there Saturday night and they had one of the bar staff wearing the shades and bandana to match the hen party he was doing classes for ;)


    But, I'd say the bars would all get involved and kinda "theme the place up" for it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    The Snipe wrote: »
    Well, I'm sure O'Connells would get into the spirit. I was in there Saturday night and they had one of the bar staff wearing the shades and bandana to match the hen party he was doing classes for ;)


    But, I'd say the bars would all get involved and kinda "theme the place up" for it.
    Classes or promoting the festival?Take it your the barman lol

    Getting alot of people into Fancy dress i think may be hard outside halloween altho its very easy to do

    Whats actual on for this festival


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    bigpink wrote: »
    Classes or promoting the festival?Take it your the barman lol

    Getting alot of people into Fancy dress i think may be hard outside halloween altho its very easy to do

    Whats actual on for this festival

    They started doing Cocktail making classes! :P

    No no no I'm not the barman at all! I just live in there! (As Xsiborg may have learned yesterday how bad I am, when I spent 9 hours in there yesterday! :P )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 DickBunce


    bigpink wrote: »
    Asked a cork friend about it and they said last years one wasnt great,they said too many decades,not many dressing up,too many venues.They said most people that did dress up did 70s and 80s they said a 80s festival prob be better overall

    Wonder would the patrons of Market Quater pubs get into the spirit,nancys seems to be the only one i think would

    It needs a street party element.if it was catherine street bourkes,tom collins flas etc would be great

    The OP asked "will they expand on it". I don't think they will be able to. I was one of those caught up in the trouble last year and quickly got out of there. It had the appearances of something that was out of control. The promoter Tony Enright has a habit of organising thing that end up badly...
    Heres another one of his events at Synnotts in Castletroy that went bad with loads of trouble.....

    Thirty arrests on Saturday night in Limerick

    Limerick Leader
    Published on Monday 26 May 2008 15:07

    MUNSTER'S victory celebrations were dampened in Castletroy after a row broke out outside Synnotts pub on Saturday night resulting in the arrest of nine people.
    Gardai from Henry Street Garda Station went to the car park of the pub twice, where a big screen had been erected for rugby fans, because of reports of public disorder.
    A youth was arrested on the first occasion and the gardai returned shortly after 8pm in a garda van and two patrol cars to arrest a further eight people.
    Six people were charged under the Public Order Act and are due before Limerick District Court in the coming weeks.
    If I was a betting person I would bet that no way will there be any street party given the fact that the promoter has had all this trouble in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    The Snipe wrote: »
    bigpink wrote: »
    Classes or promoting the festival?Take it your the barman lol

    Getting alot of people into Fancy dress i think may be hard outside halloween altho its very easy to do

    Whats actual on for this festival

    They started doing Cocktail making classes! :P

    No no no I'm not the barman at all! I just live in there! (As Xsiborg may have learned yesterday how bad I am, when I spent 9 hours in there yesterday! :P )

    i dunno snipe, im picturing you in a pair of flourescent lycra leggings (its not pretty! :p), but the other day as i was passing by jury's inn i saw a group of girls tottering up the street in heels and 80's luminous lycra leggings and liotards, i figure they must have been in town for a hen night or something, but it gave me a giggle anyway... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    bigpink wrote: »
    Was thinking the same the parade should not have been in the drink zone


    4TH of July is Wednesday this year not sure will that draw a crowd

    The thing with riverfest and mardi gras i know from my brother is that only few places benefit so they should look at heading all the city
    The Snipe wrote: »
    4th of July is concentrating on the entire city.

    yes its on the Wednesday, but there is plans that hopefully within the next few years that when its on the Saturday, that we will have the largest 4th of July Festival outside of America.

    That sounds daft - Gotta have it on a Wednesday when everyone has work the next morning because it just so happens to be independance day across the Atlantic?

    Why not have it on a Monday at 5am - The day and time George Washingtons sisters cat was born.

    - Although on a positive note, am sure all the Scumbags won't want to be out headbutting and glassing people when they have to be in work at 9am the following morning.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭godfrey


    The Snipe wrote: »
    Its not going to be the same setup. With Mardi-Gras you were confined to a specific area. With the 4th of July, there will be a "pub trail" I guess you could call it, called route 66, where all the different bars put on different entertainment. But that will be across the city, not just in the quarter.

    How will this differ from any other night in town? It'll surely be the same tired covers bands in all the pubs, no? I'd love to be wrong about this...
    The Snipe wrote: »
    The 4th of July is going to be across the entire city, from UL, to Peoples Park, to Aurthur Quay Park, everything from Gigs, to twilight markets, to Tai-Chi and angel card readings.

    And again, just like Riverfest, Patricks Day festival/parade and every other 'special public event', some unnamed 'entity' will be making no effort whatsoever in terms of decent music or staging/production. "Ah aure, get the lads to play, they're handy enough, and put them on the steps in Arthurs Quay Park, a few of them old speaker boxes piled up and throw an oul tarp over them... Be grand... No one will notice. We'll make a packet out of it waaaahahaha."

    It never ends.

    g


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    godfrey wrote: »
    How will this differ from any other night in town? It'll surely be the same tired covers bands in all the pubs, no? I'd love to be wrong about this...



    And again, just like Riverfest, Patricks Day festival/parade and every other 'special public event', some unnamed 'entity' will be making no effort whatsoever in terms of decent music or staging/production. "Ah aure, get the lads to play, they're handy enough, and put them on the steps in Arthurs Quay Park, a few of them old speaker boxes piled up and throw an oul tarp over them... Be grand... No one will notice. We'll make a packet out of it waaaahahaha."

    It never ends.


    Exactlymypont we have all these events but there is nothing to make them really good
    Also it seems its the same event management company that has all the contracts to do these events:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭godfrey


    You are correct. The same company has been 'managing' events in Limerick for at least 2 terms of contract. Being a politically charged job, I imagine no one else wants to touch it! Imagine having to deal with the numpties in the city council...

    g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Unfortunately, the scale of the event LLH were saying has to be scaled back, due to restrictions by the council, however the "Mardi Gras" style route (Route 66) Is still in place.

    And I agree with what you were saying about FE. It is a political position but they have no involvement with the projects that LLH, or the Market Quater are running.


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