Cardiff City could go from Blue to Red

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Cardiff City's owners are considering "re-branding" the team, from Blue shirts to Red. For money.

I think it's a shameful idea.

Augmerson

Meh, I'd do it.

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Augmerson wrote: »

Meh, I'd do it.

What team do you support?

Hammer Archer

Wrexham probably won't be too pleased.
Also, will they be changing their nickname to the redbirds?

Dearg81

Des wrote: »

The club's Malaysian investors believe red is a more dynamic colour for marketing in Asia,

Typical colourist Asians! What the hell does that statement even mean anyway?

Moist Bread

Why you think it's a shameful idea?

Fart

I can understand their arguments for it, but their colour is part of their history also.

I'd say keep the blue.

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Moist Bread wrote: »

Why you think it's a shameful idea?

Because a teams shirt colour is it's main identity, many, many teams even use it as an identifying name.

Liverpool are "The Reds" for instance. Imagine is FSG decided to change their shirt colour to Blue, there'd be absolute uproar on this forum, and in the entire football world.

But because this is a Championship team in Wales, people think they should easily give up their history.

It's a horribly shameful thing to even contemplate.

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Hammer Archer wrote: »

Also, will they be changing their nickname to the redbirds?

Article says their nickname won't be chaning to The Red Dragons.

KittyeeTrix

They'd be best off waiting till around 6pm on Sunday and switching it to a nice pale blue;)

GavRedKing

Dearg81 wrote: »

Typical colourist Asians! What the hell does that statement even mean anyway?

I think red is meant to be a colour of good fortune in Asian culture, open to correction though.

If its anything liek Swansea's away jersey it could be a hit.

Ste-

#comeonyouboysinwhatevercolourourownerswant

Kiwi_knock

Dreadful that an owner thinks he can destroy a club's history like this. Red jerseys will not make Cardiff any more popular. Clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are popular in Asia because of their history not because they wear the colour red. This is doomed to fail. If they want to get recognition in Asia, they should go on pre season tour there and buy a few Asian players. Even this will not guarantee Cardiff becoming popular in Asia.

Hopefully Cardiff fans can mobilise against this, and make the owners listen to them. Would be a disgrace if Cardiff had to change just for one owner.

Fr Tod Umptious

I'm sure back in 1907 they were pissing and moaning about Riverside FC changing their name to Cardiff City.

Things change and for some reason football fans don't seem to be able to accept that, too stuck in the past with not enough vision for the future.

That being said I am not sure how much impact Cardiff could make in Asia where Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea are very popular.
But if the owner is serious about his long term investment intentions (and that could be a big IF) then it would worth it.

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Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm sure back in 1907 they were pissing and moaning about Riverside FC changing their name to Cardiff City.

Things change and for some reason football fans don't seem to be able to accept that, too stuck in the past with not enough vision for the future.

That being said I am not sure how much impact Cardiff could make in Asia where Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea are very popular.
But if the owner is serious about his long term investment intentions (and that could be a big IF) then it would worth it.

Who do you support?

Ste-

Des wrote: »

Liverpool are "The Reds" for instance. Imagine is FSG decided to change their shirt colour to Blue, there'd be absolute uproar on this forum, and in the entire football world.

Sure look what happened when liverpool even had a tint of blue on one of their jerseys!

Pride Fighter

Clubs should not throw away their history, I would be pretty pissed off if my club changed their home strip. Simple solution is to introduce a red away strip, everyone is happy, win win IMO.

steelcityblues

Might as well change to 'Wrexham in Disguise F.C.'

overshoot

cardiff blues ending their deal and moving back to arms park to allow for significant rebranding. fair enough in that they are a long way from selling it out but its a very blue stadium... they must be going for it alright.
could they not change the away kit to red... market it more in asia, edge the stadium to blue and red... they had a maroon one in 08/09. edge the dragon to being slightly more promenent in the crest. red tint under the sleves in the home kit too.
i wouldnt walk away from blue though, when your nickname in the bluebirds and there is one on the crest you are well tied to it. reckon i went far enough with those suggestions.

and a quick google search said blue is related to imortality in china. red-luck in china, purity in india.... id take imortality. would also be kind of ironic to associate yourself with purity when you sell your soul:pac:

Fr Tod Umptious

Des wrote: »

Who do you support?

Castlebar Celtic

Kiwi_knock

The owners have abandoned their plans at least for this season.

In the light of the vociferous opposition by a number of the fans to the proposals being considered as expressed directly to our local management and through various media and other outlets, we will not proceed with the proposed change of colour and logo and the team will continue to play in blue at home for the next season with the current badge.

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10335~2766829,00.html

Good to see some sense prevail, but it seems like it will be an idea that the owners will return to next season. In the full statement they seem to believe that the financial troubles of Cardiff will be solved by this colour change.

dsmythy

Red is a more striking colour. It seems they listened to the fans so won't be happening and I doubt the fans will be changing their minds any time in the future and I have to say I'd agree with staying in their traditional colour. Can always have a red away jersey! The crest is an option to be changed too since it's not been so consistant over the last few years.

Guy:Incognito

Everyone should play in Red, home and away. Yay for red.

kitakyushu

The colour thing is overrated.

Liverpool traditionally wore white shorts up until the 60s.
Brazil used to play in white up until the 1950s.
Ireland/NornIron used to play in blue up until the 1930s.

Many other examples I'm sure.

Diabhal Beag

Surely he thinks they'll finally get promoted if they change the kit colours

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Confirmed.

Link

Cardiff City have confirmed the Bluebirds will play in red from next season onwards after the club’s Malaysian owners formally unveiled the club's new image.

The switch - which also includes a new club crest and which comes into effect immediately - comes after the club's hierarchy approved the decision at a board meeting.

In addition to the new kit, the club have announced plans to build a brand new training ground, pay off the historical Langston debt, provide manager Malky Mackay with a substantial transfer kitty, and to explore the possibility of expanding the Cardiff City Stadium.

The club have unveiled three new strips - a red home shirt, a blue away strip, and a third kit, which is mainly black.

All new kits bear a redesigned badge, incorporating a main image of a dragon, with a small bluebird inserted underneath, and carrying the slogan "Fire and Passion".

Club chairman Dato Chan Tien Ghee said the moves were "not meant to destroy any part of the club's history or culture", while chief executive Alan Whiteley called for fans to be "realistic and progressive" about the changes.

:rolleyes:

Orando Broom

Teams have changed colours throughout their history. This is nothing new. Cardiff fans won't give a crap if they win promotion and all the guff about the blue kit will die a death with idiots proclaiming the jersey change as a sign.

Man United (Newton Heath) were Green and Yellow. Liverpool were originally the colour of Blackburn Rovers and then Sheffield Wednesday before the 'traditional' red. For all you 'traditionalists' I think the clubs need to go back to these colours.

doncarlos

Few rumours going about that Dundalk would play in yellow and blue instead of their traditional white shirt black shorts for the remainder of the season. Dundalk are sponsored by Fyffes

Cokeistan

Fairly ignorant attitude towards the fans by the owners considering how angrily the fans reacted when they first heard of this, I guess some owners couldn't give a shít about the culture of their clubs

Fr Tod Umptious

Cokeistan wrote: »

Fairly ignorant attitude towards the fans by the owners considering how angrily the fans reacted when they first heard of this, I guess some owners couldn't give a shít about the culture of their clubs

And I guess most fans couldn't give a shít about the culture of their club if their new owners pumps cash in they start winning.

DDC1990

Everyone is just going to buy the away kit :P

Zebra3

Des wrote: »

Because a teams shirt colour is it's main identity, many, many teams even use it as an identifying name.

Liverpool are "The Reds" for instance. Imagine is FSG decided to change their shirt colour to Blue, there'd be absolute uproar on this forum, and in the entire football world.

But because this is a Championship team in Wales, people think they should easily give up their history.

It's a horribly shameful thing to even contemplate.

It's actually sad that that had to be posted.

Coillte_Bhoy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

And I guess most fans couldn't give a shít about the culture of their club if their new owners pumps cash in they start winning.

Speak for yourself. Would you be happy if castlebar celtic decided to change from green and whit hoops?

Orando Broom

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Speak for yourself. Would you be happy if castlebar celtic decided to change from green and whit hoops?

But what is the problem? I mean since the inception of organised association football clubs have changed their colours. what is the problem?

Celtic don't play in their original kit (White with a green collar) Manchester United Don't (and have changed thier home colours a couple of Times. Liverpool have changed thier home colours twice.

What exactly is the problem with Cardiff doing it now? This will be their fifth colour change by the way. Yellow and brown quarters, Blue, sky blue Royal blue and now Red.

Neil3030

This could well serve as the "modern era" jumping the shark, imo. As loathsome as these actions may be, I can't help but wonder what future bastardisations await around the corner, as clubs become more desperate to get on the gravy train. There has to become a point where fans will eventually be turned away.

Orando Broom

Neil3030 wrote: »

This could well serve as the "modern era" jumping the shark, imo. As loathsome as these actions may be, I can't help but wonder what future bastardisations await around the corner, as clubs become more desperate to get on the gravy train. There has to become a point where fans will eventually be turned away.

No this is jsut internet over reaction. The home of the over reaction. See my post above.

Man United have had nine different colour of home jersey. Nine. Where's the outrage?

Man City four, including a black home jersey.

A_Sober_Paddy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm sure back in 1907 they were pissing and moaning about Riverside FC changing their name to Cardiff City.

Things change and for some reason football fans don't seem to be able to accept that, too stuck in the past with not enough vision for the future.

That being said I am not sure how much impact Cardiff could make in Asia where Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea are very popular.
But if the owner is serious about his long term investment intentions (and that could be a big IF) then it would worth it.

But how many years was the club around before changing its name? 8 years you say so much history in an 8 year period...

They've been Cardiff City for 105 years and to suddenly change something as important as the clubs colour is shocking and deplorable

Fr Tod Umptious

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Speak for yourself. Would you be happy if castlebar celtic decided to change from green and whit hoops?

I would not give a hoot, I'd still follow them.

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's actually sad that that had to be posted.

History is fluid

Things change, names change, colours change, rules change

bobbysands81

Oh no!

What about the children? Will somebody please think about the children?!

A_Sober_Paddy

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Oh no!

What about the children? Will somebody please think about the children?!

FYP:D

pickarooney

Neil3030 wrote: »

This could well serve as the "modern era" jumping the shark, imo. As loathsome as these actions may be, I can't help but wonder what future bastardisations await around the corner, as clubs become more desperate to get on the gravy train. There has to become a point where fans will eventually be turned away.

MK Dons was surely the moment football jumped the shark?

Lawrence1895

Money 1, Tradition 0...as usual

wonderfullife

Im sure most football fans like their teams to remain in the colours they have always known.

I'm also sure most football fans just want next seasons kit not to be totally naff!!!!

To be honest, green is the colour of the Ireland jersey. For them to play in pink, would grate me.....that being said, i've come to identify with the White away jersey as much as the green one.

Football, at club and international level, is more than the colour of your jersey. It's about the players and fans alike putting their heart and soul into trying their best for the team. As such, if people like Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Robbie Keane strolled out in Poznan in bright pink shirts i wouldn't give a flying **** about tradition i'd get behind the team.

Orando Broom

pickarooney wrote: »

MK Dons was surely the moment football jumped the shark?

What about second third and fourth place getting 'champions' league spots? What about coming fourth in a league being valued over winning a cup?

Look according to all you aged and august sages football must have jumped the shark when Trevor Francis became the first million pound player.

It is a sport, sports evolve. They will never stop changing. Look at the NFL, a London based team from next season; Rugby Irish provinces now the mainstay of the sport in the country.

The Premier League will be a distant memory in ten years time.

Raekwon

D'oh!

wonderfullife

Orando Broom wrote: »

What about second third and fourth place getting 'champions' league spots? What about coming fourth in a league being valued over winning a cup?

Look according to all you aged and august sages football must have jumped the shark when Trevor Francis became the first million pound player.

It is a sport, sports evolve. They will never stop changing. Look at the NFL, a London based team from next season; Rugby Irish provinces now the mainstay of the sport in the country.

The Premier League will be a distant memory in ten years time.

it's far too strong a brand to disappear. The Premier League, as we know it, may look very different but it won't disappear.

Fr Tod Umptious

wonderfullife wrote: »

Im sure most football fans like their teams to remain in the colours they have always known.

I'm also sure most football fans just want next seasons kit not to be totally naff!!!!

To be honest, green is the colour of the Ireland jersey. For them to play in pink, would grate me.....that being said, i've come to identify with the White away jersey as much as the green one.

Football, at club and international level, is more than the colour of your jersey. It's about the players and fans alike putting their heart and soul into trying their best for the team. As such, if people like Richard Dunne, Damien Duff and Robbie Keane strolled out in Poznan in bright pink shirts i wouldn't give a flying **** about tradition i'd get behind the team.

May be true at international level but at club level it's nothing more than a job for most players.

Orando Broom wrote: »

What about second third and fourth place getting 'champions' league spots? What about coming fourth in a league being valued over winning a cup?

Look according to all you aged and august sages football must have jumped the shark when Trevor Francis became the first million pound player.

It is a sport, sports evolve. They will never stop changing. Look at the NFL, a London based team from next season; Rugby Irish provinces now the mainstay of the sport in the country.

The Premier League will be a distant memory in ten years time.

That is not happing, and will not happen for a while.

But football did not 'jump the shark', what ever that is supposed to mean, with the MK Dons.

It jumped the shark in 1910 when Millwall moved from the Isle of Dogs to New Cross, or in 1913 when Arsenal moved from Woolwich to Highbury.

KaiserGunner

Orando Broom wrote: »

What about second third and fourth place getting 'champions' league spots? What about coming fourth in a league being valued over winning a cup?

Look according to all you aged and august sages football must have jumped the shark when Trevor Francis became the first million pound player.

It is a sport, sports evolve. They will never stop changing. Look at the NFL, a London based team from next season; Rugby Irish provinces now the mainstay of the sport in the country.

The Premier League will be a distant memory in ten years time.

Well thats wrong, may be a possibility in the future, but definitely not from next season.

Zebra3

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

History is fluid

Things change, names change, colours change, rules change

So if Ireland step onto the pitch on Sunday evening wearing a new first choice kit based on the Union Jack, that'd be fine then? :rolleyes:

Orando Broom

KaiserGunner wrote: »

Well thats wrong, may be a possibility in the future, but definitely not from next season.

St. Louis Rams for a four year residency at the international series, no? Thought it was a done deal last August?

Orando Broom

Zebra3 wrote: »

So if Ireland step onto the pitch on Sunday evening wearing a new first choice kit based on the Union Jack, that'd be fine then? :rolleyes:

Strawman argument; irrelevent and pointless post. for start why would Ireland rebrand under the flag of the United Kingdom? Why? What reason?

If you said Royal Blue, your argument would have validity as it was the Free State colour.