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Contracting in Stamp 4 visa

  • 08-05-2012 8:45pm
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    I am working on a Stamp 4 visa which expires in nov 2012. i am thinking of taking up a contract job. Assuming that i take up the contract job in july/august for 6 months, would i not require a letter from the employer when i go for garda card renewal in nov 2012 ? If I do require, then what do I do bcos my employer wont give one as I am not a permanent employee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    bring in your contract of employment rather than a letter from the employer. Even for a 6 mth contract, by law you must be furnished with a written contract. This will state the start and end date of the contracted period of employment.
    Bring this with you as proof of employment to your renewal meeting.

    Just be aware, that there is no obligation on the Immigration officer to renew your stamp 4, it is discretionary. If they see you only have 3 mths of work remaning, they might just give you a renewal for 3 mths. It is unlikely though, as if you are seen to be supporting yourself and contributing to society they are less likely to refuse a renewal. Just don't bank on it being renewed is all I'm saying. immigration can be tricky! so bring bank statemetns etc to show that you have funds to support yourself whn the contract is over. Or if you have another job or contract lined up, bring proof of this. They will want to see that you can continue to support yourself after the contract has ended, so show you can do this.

    Best of luck


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    stuartb wrote: »
    I am thinking of taking up a contract job. Assuming that i take up the contract job in july/august for 6 months, would i not require a letter from the employer when i go for garda card renewal in nov 2012 ? If I do require, then what do I do bcos my employer wont give one as I am not a permanent employee.

    I think you need to be very careful here as to what you mean by a contract job, because as a Non EU/EEA citizen it is not possible to do contracting as we usually think of it within the EU... The Irish rules are among the worst I've seen in that respect because they specifically state: "You must be directly employed and paid by your employer. Work permit applications from recruitment agencies and other intermediaries are not acceptable under the scheme." We've had a couple permits rejected on this basis recently.

    To have a good chance of success you would need to make sure that the contract is directly with the employer and not with the agency or similar organization.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Ask your employer for a letter from him that you are currently employed by him, nothing more. Plus the previous months payslips as well. That will suffice for immigration, you do not require anything else.

    And get applying for long term residence as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    I think you need to be very careful here as to what you mean by a contract job, because as a Non EU/EEA citizen it is not possible to do contracting as we usually think of it within the EU... The Irish rules are among the worst I've seen in that respect because they specifically state: "You must be directly employed and paid by your employer. Work permit applications from recruitment agencies and other intermediaries are not acceptable under the scheme." We've had a couple permits rejected on this basis recently.

    Stamp 4 is generally exempt from work permit requirements so this should not be an issue.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Mena wrote: »
    Stamp 4 is generally exempt from work permit requirements so this should not be an issue.

    Can you please provide a reference as I'm most interested in this. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Mena is correct, you do not need a work permit with stamp 4, just bring the documents as I outlined above to immigration.


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