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Edugym v personal trainer

  • 29-04-2012 7:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭


    Hi Guys
    I see pigs back have a deal on for 199 for 12 day programme in educogym.

    Now after reading some of the reviews on boards educogym works for some and not for others.

    About myself, I’m 6ft, 15 stone, no upper body strength, no confidence so find it hard to go to gyms, swimming pools etc, have a poor diet, no motivation (suffer depression) and hate how I have become, I’m afraid to try things for fear of f#ucking up and people laughing at me (yep I know how stupid that sounds). So I need to sort out my life and want to tackle certain things, the first been health & fitness, I’m hoping that as I get fitter and loss weight, I’ll lose my belly & moobs and start to feel good about myself and hopefully in turn gain some confidence and energy to sort out the next things I want to do swimming, driving etc.

    My question is am I better off trying something like educogym first as its suppose to make you stronger, fitter and aid weight loss in 12 days or would I be better getting a personal trainer. I’m on a budget and would be able to meet a personal trainer off peak.
    I’m based in Dublin a few days a week and unfortunalty have to stay in a hotel so this isn’t great for healthy eating.

    Any advice please as I need to sort my life out before it’s too late. The offer closes in 3 hrs so any advice would be cool

    Thanks in advance.

    PS any personal trainers out there that are up for a challange or thingcan help cool, Id love to hear from you.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    Hey whats up.

    Indeed some people have very strong views on educo gym on this site. On the whole, id be inclined to agree. HOWEVER I do know people personally who are getting great results from it and really really enoying it.

    I think the big problem is its quite expensive, and the methods that they use are quite obscure and unsstainable in the long term. (diet and suppliments really) They will try push their suppliments on you, but dont bow to them, you can get the same for much cheaper else where, and they arent all that neccessary anyways.

    That said, if you want a kick start into fitness, and want to see good results it may be a good option. but you have to bare in mind, once your educo gym experience is over, you have to keep going, keep on track of your diet and get your self into a proper training regime. It would be a good idea to meet with a trainer who is willing to give you a programme for 6 weeks and work from that instead of going into a gym and wondering where the feck to start. Trainers would work out roughly 40-50 an hour so if you got 4 sessions, youl end up the same price as educogym.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭J-Fit


    I'd go with the trainer and forget the short term 12 day goals.

    As long as it's a good trainer of course. Educogym is really a case of "the emporor's new clothes". They'll give you bodyfat/muscle gain figures at the end that are physiologically impossible in a 12 day period and validate it all by means of the weight that you will likely lose in that 12 days, most of which will be water and stored glycogen, not actual fat tissue.

    In other words, they'll tell you what you want to hear, and you'll believe it because you really want to and the weighing scales certainly won't argue if you've gone all ketogenic for 12 days. Then they'll rope you in for another 12.

    Of course if you stick to it and stay the course, you'll probably make progress but I think successful Educogym goers are more down to the law of averages than any real expertise on their part.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    J-Fit wrote: »
    I'd go with the trainer and forget the short term 12 day goals.

    As long as it's a good trainer of course. Educogym is really a case of "the emporor's new clothes". They'll give you bodyfat/muscle gain figures at the end that are physiologically impossible in a 12 day period and validate it all by means of the weight that you will likely lose in that 12 days, most of which will be water and stored glycogen, not actual fat tissue.

    In other words, they'll tell you what you want to hear, and you'll believe it because you really want to and the weighing scales certainly won't argue if you've gone all ketogenic for 12 days. Then they'll rope you in for another 12.

    Of course if you stick to it and stay the course, you'll probably make progress but I think successful Educogym goers are more down to the law of averages than any real expertise on their part.

    110% this.

    You could get 4-5x personal training sessions for the same price (ie one a week, get a well thought out diet and program and weekly check ups, so you effectively get a month+ of training)

    You'd get 2 months worth of bootcamp sessions in a lot of places, but given your shyness it's may not something you want to go for right now until you're a bit more experienced.

    Basically my point is there's a lot of options, try not to get tied to one and panic buy!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Stickman2


    Just a suggestion i'd like to throw at you mate, would you not consider going and taking part in an exercise class of some sort a couple of nights a week? For example a bootcamp? In my opinion a great way to build confidence being around people in an exercise enviroment. Just as a start. Which ever road you decide to take don't ever feel a lack of confidence going in to a gym,swimming pool,etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Stickman2 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion i'd like to throw at you mate, would you not consider going and taking part in an exercise class of some sort a couple of nights a week? For example a bootcamp? In my opinion a great way to build confidence being around people in an exercise enviroment. Just as a start. Which ever road you decide to take don't ever feel a lack of confidence going in to a gym,swimming pool,etc.

    This is a great suggestion and totally correct, BUT, I think unless you're used to dealing with people who have that fear, you don't understand how crippling it can be.

    Like it's not as simple as saying "man up up and do it". It's an almost paralyzing fear. It's completely irrational because the majority of people in those camps, and the people coaching them, will be nothing but encouraging, but it's a fear which a person owns and can be very hard to convince them otherwise. And ironically the best way to convince them there's nothing to fear is to just get them to do it... Which is a complete catch 22.

    So, I think the OP needs to weigh up his options - Educo isn't perfect, it's VERY VERY expensive for what it is, and you are liable to be hard sold into longer and more expensive packages, but if it's a safe first step for them which builds some confidence, then it may not be the worst call.

    EDIT: and sorry, I should say - I'm not trying to say the OP is having those problems, but it's something I see quite frequently and it's really disheartening because nothing beats the feeling you get when a client/friend/family member starts to see progress and do things they thought they could never do and realizes that exercise and improved condition is exciting and exhilarating!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭thehamo


    Hanley wrote: »
    Stickman2 wrote: »
    Just a suggestion i'd like to throw at you mate, would you not consider going and taking part in an exercise class of some sort a couple of nights a week? For example a bootcamp? In my opinion a great way to build confidence being around people in an exercise enviroment. Just as a start. Which ever road you decide to take don't ever feel a lack of confidence going in to a gym,swimming pool,etc.

    This is a great suggestion and totally correct, BUT, I think unless you're used to dealing with people who have that fear, you don't understand how crippling it can be.

    Like it's not as simple as saying "man up up and do it". It's an almost paralyzing fear. It's completely irrational because the majority of people in those camps, and the people coaching them, will be nothing but encouraging, but it's a fear which a person owns and can be very hard to convince them otherwise. And ironically the best way to convince them there's nothing to fear is to just get them to do it... Which is a complete catch 22.

    So, I think the OP needs to weigh up his options - Educo isn't perfect, it's VERY VERY expensive for what it is, and you are liable to be hard sold into longer and more expensive packages, but if it's a safe first step for them which builds some confidence, then it may not be the worst call.

    EDIT: and sorry, I should say - I'm not trying to say the OP is having those problems, but it's something I see quite frequently and it's really disheartening because nothing beats the feeling you get when a client/friend/family member starts to see progress and do things they thought they could never do and realizes that exercise and improved condition is exciting and exhilarating!!

    Another reason why the educo gym might not be right for the op. especially if its a discount buy thingie, a lot of people may be doing it at the ssme time. a trainer would be a better option in my opinion. It would be much easier to build up a relationship with a trainer and build confidence. Then you can think about using bootcamp sessions to help the training.


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