RTE's Agenda Against Ronaldo...

MD1990

he scored 2 goals tonight played very well imo
his penalty miss was a great save
of course he made some errors too but nothing too crucial

but did u hear the 3 idiots on RTE saying he bottled the penalty
Giles saying he didnt know how he was tired because he didn't chase back(even though he did) & made lung bursting runs down the left wing
& then it was claimed that Madrid were not trained properly to take penalty's:P
Ronaldo has scored 23/24 Penalties

murpho999

Yes but he's a chancer, gouger and no good puff ball who doesn't do it in big games. He's a bottler!

Xavi6

MD1990 wrote: »

but did u hear the 3 idiots legends on RTE

Tbh

speedboatchase

And not a single thing was said of Messi's miss when they mentioned his performance last night. The two are held up to two completely different standards and Dunphy can't say a good thing about Ronaldo without it being extremely grudging

Hank Scorpio

speedboatchase wrote: »

And not a single thing was said of Messi's miss when they mentioned his performance last night. The two are held up to two completely different standards and Dunphy can't say a good thing about Ronaldo eithout it being extremely grudging

In fairness they said Messi was terrible last night, even showed highlights of him loosing the ball..

cgpg5

Dunphy will try to be controversial regardless so I wouldn't pay much notice of him usually.

But Ronaldo did not play well tonight. He scored a lovely second goal but didn't work hard enough for the team imo. Contributed very little after that goal. His criticism was justified tonight, although they've gone out of their way before to criticise him.

MD1990

what was all the praise that Gomez was getting about
he was a threat but he kept missing his chances

speedboatchase

nuxxx wrote: »

In fairness they said Messi was terrible last night, even showed highlights of him loosing the ball..

They did indeed but a huge rant on Ronaldo 'bottling' it by missing a peno, then no mention of Messi's penalty miss, was extremely biased. To use Dunphy's logic, Messi also 'bottled' it too but not a word regarding it

niallo27

"Honestly of effort" was lacking from him.

Hank Scorpio

speedboatchase wrote: »

They did indeed but a huge rant on Ronaldo 'bottling' it by missing a peno, then no mention of Messi's penalty miss, was extremely biased. To use Dunphy's logic, Messi also 'bottled' it too but not a word regarding it

Ronaldo's petulance makes it easier for them to pick on him!

cgpg5

I'd rather see them picking up on top players having a poor performance rather than ITV pundits licking their arse all the time

monkey9

cgpg5 wrote: »

I'd rather see them picking up on top players having a poor performance rather than ITV pundits licking their arse all the time

Exactly!! I'd rather the RTE panel over Gareth Southgate's droopy looking face anyday!!!

darced

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castletownman

I've chosen to switch off when they start ranting about Ronaldo.

I mean the man has got 55 goals in all competitions this season yet Dunphy claimed that when he stands up to hit a penalty in La Liga that it doesn't mean anything because they'll win the match anyway. I'm pretty sure Barca are destroying every other team in the League too, but when Messi scores it always shows how he's the best player of all-time.

And Dunphy is always harsh on Ronaldo yet is in love with Kevin Doyle because he "tries hard" and he's an "honest player". What the hell has Doyle done this season?

ambid

In fairness I think all the "bottle" talk came from Dunphy - whose only role on the panel is to be controversial. His opinions aren't credible.

Giles and Brady were articulate and fair in their criticisms. I didn't see Ronaldo working hard in the match, certainly he seemed to do very little in defence.

They criticise Ronaldo because he has all the ability in the world but has a bad attitude. He could be one of the all time greats, but lets himself down with all his petulance. The panel also criticise other great players like Messi and Rooney when criticism is justified.

Ronaldo has had a great season, but was under-performed tonight. The panel were right I thought.

dreamers75

they all man utd fans?

MD1990

castletownman wrote: »

I've chosen to switch off when they start ranting about Ronaldo.

I mean the man has got 55 goals in all competitions this season yet Dunphy claimed that when he stands up to hit a penalty in La Liga that it doesn't mean anything because they'll win the match anyway. I'm pretty sure Barca are destroying every other team in the League too, but when Messi scores it always shows how he's the best player of all-time.

And Dunphy is always harsh on Ronaldo yet is in love with Kevin Doyle because he "tries hard" and he's an "honest player". What the hell has Doyle done this season?

he has chased down balls which makes him a hero lol

cgpg5

ambid wrote: »

In fairness I think all the "bottle" talk came from Dunphy - whose only role on the panel is to be controversial. His opinions aren't credible.

Giles and Brady were articulate and fair in their criticisms. I didn't see Ronaldo working hard in the match, certainly he seemed to do very little in defence.

They criticise Ronaldo because he has all the ability in the world but has a bad attitude. He could be one of the all time greats, but lets himself down with all his petulance. The panel also criticise other great players like Messi and Rooney when criticism is justified.

Ronaldo has had a great season, but was under-performed tonight. The panel were right I thought.

Great post, this sums it up perfectly! Giles also summed it up well by saying "he does great things that the great players do, but he also does things great players would never do (in a negative way)"

Owen_S

Okey doke. John, what do you make of Ronaldo, in an overall sense, live?

Liam O

He's no John Giles or Liam Brady in fairness Bill...

vicwatson

Giles is an arse, he said that Ronaldo isn't a world class palyer tonight (because he missed a peno) :eek: FFS ! he is an arse altogether

Hank Scorpio

vicwatson wrote: »

Giles is an arse, he said that Ronaldo isn't a world class palyer tonight (because he missed a peno) :eek: FFS ! he is an arse altogether

No he didn't. He said he doesn't like Ronaldo because of his attitude and lack of work rate, and the way he waves his arms at team mates. Had nothing to do with the penalty. When he missed vs Chelsea in the CL final he said anyone can miss a penalty. His main point was/is Ronaldo does things that the great players would never do, and I agree

Seaneh

tbh. 2 goals aside. he was pretty pants tonight. that said he is def world class.

Pride Fighter

He's a bird brain Bill.

vicwatson

nuxxx wrote: »

No he didn't. He said he doesn't like Ronaldo because of his attitude and lack of work rate, and the way he waves his arms at team mates. Had nothing to do with the penalty. When he missed vs Chelsea in the CL final he said anyone can miss a penalty. His main point was/is Ronaldo does things that the great players would never do, and I agree

I heard what I heard, when they went back to studio after the penalty shoot out, spoke to brady and then to Giles

argosy2006

MD1990 wrote: »

what was all the praise that Gomez was getting about
he was a threat but he kept missing his chances

A rapist basically

Hank Scorpio

vicwatson wrote: »

I heard what I heard, when they went back to studio after the penalty shoot out, spoke to brady and then to Giles

So you're saying that Giles said Ronaldo isn't a world class player because he missed a penalty? I didn't see that but If I'm wrong fair enough

murpho999

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwlZYSFUWIE

smokedeels

RTE have an agenda against common sense.

It's just another example of a bloated, mismanaged company that overpays idiots to do poor jobs. Idiots who wouldn't get a media job in any other country.

MonkeyTennis

I always enjoy RTEs pundits but their commentary is brutal.

Its ok not to like Ronaldo btw. Hes a good footballer but hes a tw@t and Messi isnt

plasmaguy

In fairness to Ronaldo, how many of these so called great players the RTE panel speak about scored 55 - 60 goals a season, and almost won la liga on their own with class goals and assists while also almost powering them to the CL league final?

Apart from Ronaldo, Real Madrid have a lot of players who blow hot and cold. I can't stand Di Maria for example, capable of one or two good passes a game, and thats about it.

If Ronaldo almost wins a game on his own while you have other poor players playing beside him he is perfectly entitled to rant at them.

smokedeels

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Its ok not to like Ronaldo btw. Hes a good footballer but hes a tw@t and Messi isnt

Tw@t on the pitch maybe, but he's more honest than most off it.

Stayed single to enjoy the other benefits of being a footballer, unlike others who cheat on their wives.

Also, I'm happy to see somebody who had his start in life do well for themselves.

Drumpot

I think theres a few people who are unable to rate ronaldo properly . .

Scoring as many goals as he does in a season is remarkable and sets him ahead of all but one player in the planet. He plays in a top league and can score a hatful of goals in the European Cup aswell. .

But if you are going to judge players at the highest level, you cant just expect all their positives to outweigh some of their negatives...

Ronaldo's biggest weakness is his mental strength that does show up as "bottle" in games. Most players can play better when their team is playing well, but only certain players can lift their game and their teammates and still perform to their peak, when things arent going their way. Some players can do it in some games, but others do it more often then not.

Messi's performance in the last 3 games have been poor by the standards he has set over the years.

Ronaldo has a history of getting goals in some big games, but I wouldnt say this proves he performs to his peak in the big games. The amount of times Messi has played amazing in top games makes a top class performance expected. For Ronaldo, he can destroy teams in certain games, but in big games his performance has been very much sub standard.

Ronaldo did little in munich, missed a very good chance (he would score in most games) , but did have an assist in the goal. Tonight he wasnt good at all. He scored a penalty and had a nice neat finish for his second and then his team was found wanting for the rest of the game. The 2nd best player in the world did little, if anything, to help his team get back on track when things werent going their way and you need big players to stand up.

This is a harsh standard to judge him, but he is one of the greatest players in the world today, so why isnt it fair to point out an obvious flaw in his character ? He is not a player you can consistantly rely on when the chips are down against good opposition, but he is a superb player every other day of the week. Thats good enough for any team and doesnt mean he isnt a world class player.

RTE panelists were completely justified in highlighting his dissapearing acts in big games because more often then not he is nowhere to be found when his team is in trouble against good opposition.

Drumpot

plasmaguy wrote: »

In fairness to Ronaldo, how many of these so called great players the RTE panel speak about scored 55 - 60 goals a season, and almost won la liga on their own with class goals and assists while also almost powering them to the CL league final?

Apart from Ronaldo, Real Madrid have a lot of players who blow hot and cold. I can't stand Di Maria for example, capable of one or two good passes a game, and thats about it.

If Ronaldo almost wins a game on his own while you have other poor players playing beside him he is perfectly entitled to rant at them.

Scoring 60 goals in a season proves you are an exceptional world class player but what has it got to do with character in big games when your team need you most ?

If he is as good as you say then surely being around bad players, he should of stood out when Madrid were getting outplayed all over the park?!

the best player was actually Alaba and he didnt need to score in the game and showed his mettle/nerve at the penalty stage . .

PhlegmyMoses

niallo27 wrote: »

"Honestly of effort" was lacking from him.

They lack moral courage, and other intangibles, Bill.

starviewadams

Who really cares what 3 random old men say about Ronaldo?I prefer to watch RTE's CL coverage solely because it's different to the arse licking that Sky and ITV seem to specialise in.But I don't take much notice of what they happen to say or not say about any particular player,and I don't let their 'analysis' influence my opinions on football.

It's just entertainment at the end of the day really.

Dempsey

Messi and Ronaldos goals were scored in Scotland in the Sun though, should their goalscoring exploits be that highly regarded at all?

Shanotheslayer

Drumpot wrote: »

Scoring 60 goals in a season proves you are an exceptional world class player but what has it got to do with character in big games when your team need you most ?

Quick Answer: His team would barely be there without him :P

Xavi6

If somebody could upload tonight's post match chat to YouTube it'd be greatly appreciated.

Legwinski

They also said Ozil has been a poor buy for Real. :mad:

We should swap the 3 of them for Gary Neville :pac:

Adolf Hipster

He scored two goals tonight and one against Barca at the weekend, this big games shít is repetetive and simply wrong.

Bodhisopha

plasmaguy wrote: »

In fairness to Ronaldo, how many of these so called great players the RTE panel speak about scored 55 - 60 goals a season, and almost won la liga on their own with class goals and assists while also almost powering them to the CL league final?

Apart from Ronaldo, Real Madrid have a lot of players who blow hot and cold. I can't stand Di Maria for example, capable of one or two good passes a game, and thats about it.

If Ronaldo almost wins a game on his own while you have other poor players playing beside him he is perfectly entitled to rant at them.

Oh sweet baby jesus. Ronaldo dragging a team of bums kicking and screaming to La Liga glory.

Dubit10

They are right imo. He bottled it last night big time.

stovelid

They're hilariously off the mark about Ronaldo and have been for years but people don't listen to the RTE panel to hear tactics or rational views. As I usually watch a lot of the CL games and match of the day on recording, I just forward past all the punditry to be honest - whatever the channel.

Ronaldo does need to man up over penalty shoot outs though and not be putting off other players still to take theirs.

speedboatchase

Dubit10 wrote: »

They are right imo. He bottled it last night big time.

Weren't impressed with his brace then, no? And in fairness, Neuer had a great save for the penalty, which was at least on target... unlike a certain non-bottler who hit the crossbar the night before :rolleyes:

counterlock

starviewadams wrote: »

Who really cares what 3 random old men say about Ronaldo?

There is nothing random about Brady or Giles. Some of the best players ever to pull on the green jersey

Drumpot

speedboatchase wrote: »

Weren't impressed with his brace then, no? And in fairness, Neuer had a great save for the penalty, which was at least on target... unlike a certain non-bottler who hit the crossbar the night before :rolleyes:

So if you had never seen ronaldo before the semi finals in the Bayern and Madrid games, you would of seen him score goals and do nothing else. You would rightly think "that guys a great goalscorer", but you you think you would be saying "his performances were exceptional"?

He might of scored two goals last night but he wasnt the best player on the park. This is not unusual for him in big games, he gets a goal or two but he is unable to impose his game against tough opposition. People are incapable of refuting this obvious fact because its true. He is an exceptional talent that is yet to light up big games consistantly.

For the record, I am a United fan and dont have any hate for the kid.

gimmick

Exactly. God forbid anyone say something bad about our boy CR7.

stovelid

Drumpot wrote: »

He might of scored two goals last night but he wasnt the best player on the park. This is not unusual for him in big games, he gets a goal or two but he is unable to impose his game against tough opposition. People are incapable of refuting this obvious fact because its true. He is an exceptional talent that is yet to light up big games consistantly.

Scoring two goals in a Champions League semi-final would suit me fine. He's not a centre-half or full-back where goals are a bonus and suggest gross dereliction of core duties.

The only time him drifting out of games would be a major issue is if he didn't score a lot of goals. And Madrid are on course to win La Liga and were a penalty or two from a CL final. That would suggest that the team doesn't appear to suffer too much from his presence.

Mr. Presentable

speedboatchase wrote: »

They did indeed but a huge rant on Ronaldo 'bottling' it by missing a peno, then no mention of Messi's penalty miss, was extremely biased. To use Dunphy's logic, Messi also 'bottled' it too but not a word regarding it

Messi wasn't playing last night

Ush1

dreamers75 wrote: »

they all man utd fans?

I think most Man. United fans still like C.Ronaldo.