One X or 4S

JDPhotography

as above
going phone shop tomorow to get one on the 3 bill pay deal

i want to be able to tether also

pros and cons of each please

Alanstrainor

The two do not compare. The One X is better in every possible way surely.

JDPhotography

Alanstrainor wrote: »

The two do not compare. The One X is better in every possible way surely.

but how?

griffdaddy

You won't be doing any tethering on the 4s anyway, it's forbidden by Three. I'm not going into it here because I got a warning in the Three forum the last time I helped someone. Needless to say, things are easier on Android. The One X beats the 4s in every other way as well

JDPhotography

griffdaddy wrote: »

You won't be doing any tethering on the 4s anyway, it's forbidden by Three. I'm not going into it here because I got a warning in the Three forum the last time I helped someone. Needless to say, things are easier on Android. The One X beats the 4s in every other way as well

havent seen a one X on display in any shops
only seen them on reviews on youtube, the look kinda flimsy though? or are they a well built phone

partyatmygaff

I have one, it feels very solid and nice in the hand. The screen is second-to-none. It wipes the floor with everything available right now, from the iPhone to other Android phones to Windows Phone 7.

As for the specs, again the One X has the upper hand. Particularly in RAM where it has double that of the iPhone 4S.

JDPhotography

partyatmygaff wrote: »

I have one, it feels very solid and nice in the hand. The screen is second-to-none. It wipes the floor with everything available right now, from the iPhone to other Android phones to Windows Phone 7.

As for the specs, again the One X has the upper hand. Particularly in RAM where it has double that of the iPhone 4S.

can cases be got for it? have searched but nothing came up
whats the battery life? id class myself as a heavy user :eek:

TheBigEvil

This is a good site for cases and accessories

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/One-X-Cases.htm

As for One X v 4s, has to be the One X, more flexible, better Ram, quad core, and ohh it'll have flash

partyatmygaff

JDPhotography wrote: »

can cases be got for it? have searched but nothing came up
whats the battery life? id class myself as a heavy user :eek:

I'm using this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLEAR-WAVE-S-LINE-GRIP-GEL-CASE-SILICONE-CASE-COVER-STYLUS-FOR-HTC-ONE-X?item=160782567124&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo=LVI&itu=UCI&otn=5&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=7933552869966651503

Battery life is pretty good. You'd easily get a day or more out of it with use. It can last multiple days on standby thanks to the fifth companion core though.

From the One X thread:

JDPhotography

partyatmygaff wrote: »

I'm using this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLEAR-WAVE-S-LINE-GRIP-GEL-CASE-SILICONE-CASE-COVER-STYLUS-FOR-HTC-ONE-X?item=160782567124&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo=LVI&itu=UCI&otn=5&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=7933552869966651503

Battery life is pretty good. You'd easily get a day or more out of it with use. It can last multiple days on standby thanks to the fifth companion core though.

From the One X thread:

cool :cool:
cheers lads

theteal

check the oneX thread in the android forum, there's loads of info on battery life and available cases (iirc pamg has a link to an available gel case among others)

as for your concerns of build quality, HTC are possibly the best in the business imo. with regards to battery life, you should get a day, if not there are plenty of changes that can be made to improve it

the only, ONLY thing that the 4s has over the oneX is the size - i just cannot see myself ever having a phone that big

partyatmygaff

And I can't see myself having a phone as small as the 4S

When put side to side, the 4S looks like a toy in comparison.

JDPhotography

i dont know what to do haha
i just think the one X will be too big?

i work outdoors with horses so fitting it in pockets without damage could be a prob?

TBi

There is a big difference between the one X and an iPhone. I've read some comments on screen size and memory size.

The One X has a bigger screen but this means bigger phone. I prefer a smaller phone.

The One X has twice the memory of the iPhone, but only because Android doesn't control memory usage as well iOS. An iPhone will give you an identical or better experience even with a slower processor and less ram because it is better optimised. ICS still suffers from slowdowns on the fastest hardware, iOS is much smoother.

It really is a battle between iOS and Android iOS. I for one can see the appeal of "OMG it has a faster processor and more ramz!!111" but i also realise that the iPhone is more polished and optimised.

WP7 runs super smooth on my 1GHz HTC Trophy. Android does not run smoothly on this hardware.

Always be weary of people who say "OMG this is the best EVAR! iPhone is FA1L!" (or similar) because it is very biased and these people aren't giving good factual information or comparisons.

Lastly, my iPhone 3GS has (for better or worse) been updated to the latest version of iOS. Not many Android phones released that year are updated to any recent Android releases (without being hacked).

EDIT: Meteor do tethering. You should check them out.

JDPhotography

TBi wrote: »

There is a big difference between the one X and an iPhone. I've read some comments on screen size and memory size.

The One X has a bigger screen but this means bigger phone. I prefer a smaller phone.

The One X has twice the memory of the iPhone, but only because Android doesn't control memory usage as well iOS. An iPhone will give you an identical or better experience even with a slower processor and less ram because it is better optimised. ICS still suffers from slowdowns on the fastest hardware, iOS is much smoother.

It really is a battle between iOS and Android iOS. I for one can see the appeal of "OMG it has a faster processor and more ramz!!111" but i also realise that the iPhone is more polished and optimised.

WP7 runs super smooth on my 1GHz HTC Trophy. Android does not run smoothly on this hardware.

Always be weary of people who say "OMG this is the best EVAR! iPhone is FA1L!" (or similar) because it is very biased and these people aren't giving good factual information or comparisons.

Lastly, my iPhone 3GS has (for better or worse) been updated to the latest version of iOS. Not many Android phones released that year are updated to any recent Android releases (without being hacked).

EDIT: Meteor do tethering. You should check them out.

great post
i like a smaller phone too but the iphone is a good size
have used androids before and got bored of them? i dont modify the home screens to suit me, i always leave as is

as for the meteor tethering, i dont like there price of 45 odd for 200 texts,mins and only 5gb internet

partyatmygaff

TBi wrote: »

The One X has a bigger screen but this means bigger phone. I prefer a smaller phone.

It's not just bigger but better too. Higher resolution, truer color reproduction and slightly better viewing angles.

The One X has twice the memory of the iPhone, but only because Android doesn't control memory usage as well iOS. An iPhone will give you an identical or better experience even with a slower processor and less ram because it is better optimised. ICS still suffers from slowdowns on the fastest hardware, iOS is much smoother.

Have you even used the One X or are you just guessing?

It really is a battle between iOS and Android iOS. I for one can see the appeal of "OMG it has a faster processor and more ramz!!111" but i also realise that the iPhone is more polished and optimised.

Sense 4 / ICS is no less polished than iOS. In fact, it's even more "polished" than what Apple has to offer. As for optimisation, that is just you assuming things.

Always be weary of people who say "OMG this is the best EVAR! iPhone is FA1L!" (or similar) because it is very biased and these people aren't giving good factual information or comparisons.

And people who haven't actually used both of the phones in question but think they can say one is better than the other aren't biased?

drunkmonkey

Why wouldn't you modify the home screen to suit yourself, that's an absolute daft reason to put the 4s on the same pegging as the OneX.

Have a read of this http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1330463/htc_one_x_vs_iphone_5_revisited.html I don't agree with some of the reasons they gave a draw especially when it comes to memory but you'll get the idea.

Admit it you want an iPhone like 95% of people because it is an iPhone. I work in the phone business and it's become so lame when it comes to peoples choice of phone, the one x could give you blow jobs on demand and people would still pick an iphone over it for no other reason than it's an iphone, most of them haven't a bean what an iphone is. Tell them about android and they think you've 2 heads.

If you want the best phone on the market right now it's the One X.

Remember when the EVO launched. :rolleyes: This Vid is 100% bang on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

TBi

JDPhotography wrote: »

great post
i like a smaller phone too but the iphone is a good size
have used androids before and got bored of them? i dont modify the home screens to suit me, i always leave as is

as for the meteor tethering, i dont like there price of 45 odd for 200 texts,mins and only 5gb internet

5GB is loads unless you watch LOADS of online video. I never use more than 300MB a month since i use my WiFi at home.

I've used android before, i never got bored with it just massively frustrated. Random slowdowns that i couldn't explain, battery life would be fine one day and the next it would last 3 hours. (Plus the fact that the radio app would crash. Why would the radio crash?) It was fun to tinker around with and it's probably one of the reasons i went with a WP7 phone when i moved from my 3GS.

iOS might be boring but it's stable and consistent, WP7 is a fresh look on things and works really well on (compared to android phones) snail like processors.

I've used all three OSs and I prefer iOS and WP7 far above android. For me they aren't in the same league. That is however my personal preference, although a lot of people hate iOS because it's apple and hate WP7 because it's Windows. I don't like android because i found it buggy.

BTW check out satisfaction ratings for WP7, it has some of the highest satisfaction levels of any phone OS. Compare that to android...

drunkmonkey

TBi wrote: »

iOS might be boring but it's stable and consistent, WP7 is a fresh look on things and works really well on (compared to android phones) snail like processors.

Have you used Ice Cream Sandwich?
WP7 is a fresh look but but by no means better than ICS and IOS, and right now ICS is better than IOS. ICS is stable.

TBi

partyatmygaff wrote: »

It's not just bigger but better too. Higher resolution, truer color reproduction and slightly better viewing angles.

I prefer a smaller phone.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Have you even used the One X or are you just guessing?

From reading users opinions and reviews of ICS.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Sense 4 / ICS is no less polished than iOS. In fact, it's even more "polished" than what Apple has to offer. As for optimisation, that is just you assuming things.

Apple has 3 devices to optimise for, all three are made in house thus it makes sense that it can optimise these easily.

Android has multiple devices with multiple hardware and CPU's. I may be wrong but it is a lot harder to optimise across all these different variations. Maybe google is spending their time optimising... or maybe they are throwing uber powerful CPU's at the problem. A phone which needs a quad core processor to run smooth? My WP7 has a single 1GHz core and is smooth, i haven't seen an android phone yet that runs smooth on a 1GHz processor.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And people who haven't actually used both of the phones in question but think they can say one is better than the other aren't biased?

I was talking about my experience of android. I wasn't comparing phones.

TBi

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Have you used Ice Cream Sandwich?
WP7 is a fresh look but but by no means better than ICS and IOS, and right now ICS is better than IOS. ICS is stable.

If WP7 does what I want better than iOS or ICS then (in my humble opinion) it is better.

I have stated over and over again that this is my personal preference and gave arguments to justify how i feel.

I was just trying to offset the comments that ICS is definately better. It is a personal preference.

In your opinion ICS is better, but that doesn't make it better for everyone. It also doesn't automatically make iOS or WP7 bad.

Also that video was a bit insulting. I bought an iPhone because it was better than anything on the market at the time i bought it. If the ONE X becomes so popular that people buy it for no reason other than it's a one X will you say it's because android is good or will you edit the video to show the person asking for a "One X"?

JDPhotography

looks like i'll be going for the one x as from what iv been reading three are still havings problems with imessage and facetime
need to find a cpw that has a white one now lol

TBi

JDPhotography wrote: »

looks like i'll be going for the one x as from what iv been reading three are still havings problems with imessage and facetime
need to find a cpw that has a white one now lol

Well wear. I'd avoid CPW though.

JDPhotography

TBi wrote: »

Well wear. I'd avoid CPW though.

i dont usually like dealing with them but iv been credit scored and accepted by them only last week :rolleyes: so i think i need to buy from them?

because i rang 3 last friday and got declined because i got accepted in cpw

TBi

I'd call 3 again, explain the situation, ask if you can decline CPW and go with them.

(EDIT: and get an iPhone )

JDPhotography

TBi wrote: »

I'd call 3 again, explain the situation, ask if you can decline CPW and go with them.

(EDIT: and get an iPhone )

why :pac:

iv been put off by the issues with imessage

drunkmonkey

Go withe a store before Telesales but go with any other store before carphone. Seen as you have the deal done with carphone you may as well go with them now.
Carphone have a different returns policy to 3 stores and Independent phone stores as they don't use official handsets sometimes there stuff from the UK brought over and unlocked.
If you want fresh official stock go with a different shop 9 out of 10 times. That's not saying your one x isn't something from the UK it's probably proper Irish stock as it's new so it'll probably be fine. Just make sure your in agreement that if there is a fault in the first 30 days you can return it for a new one the same as if you bought it in a 3 shop or Independent. It's a HTC it shouldn't have a fault anyway.

drunkmonkey

JDPhotography wrote: »

why :pac:

iv been put off by the issues with imessage

That's just the start of it. Keep away from the iphone, it's only got a 12mt warranty. Every other phone has 2 years. Says a lot when apple won't even stand over it for 24mts.

JDPhotography

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's just the start of it. Keep away from the iphone, it's only got a 12mt warranty. Every other phone has 2 years. Says a lot when apple won't even stand over it for 24mts.

following on from the HTC one thread, the battery wont even last a day? id be using viber and alot of internet and 3 wont release the update

and other companies dont come close to 3's deal

drunkmonkey

I can't get until 6'O clock in the evening with a 4 or 4s yet I can get 2 days out of an xperia play. It all depends on the user. There's a lot you can do with a droid and even iphone to seriously reduce your battery.

I said it to you at the start i'd be waiting until the 2nd of May before buying right now.

fatalll

JDPhotography wrote: »

i dont know what to do haha
i just think the one X will be too big?

i work outdoors with horses so fitting it in pockets without damage could be a prob?

To be honest if you work outdoors with horses...
you probably should not have any phone in your pocket!! :-)
but if you had to... has to be the one X

JDPhotography

fatalll wrote: »

To be honest if you work outdoors with horses...
you probably should not have any phone in your pocket!! :-)
but if you had to... has to be the one X

haha i know but its needed :P

partyatmygaff

I don't see why working outdoors would be a problem providing your phone was in your pocket. Just face the screen to your body.

JDPhotography

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I can't get until 6'O clock in the evening with a 4 or 4s yet I can get 2 days out of an xperia play. It all depends on the user. There's a lot you can do with a droid and even iphone to seriously reduce your battery.

I said it to you at the start i'd be waiting until the 2nd of May before buying right now.

do the apps like viber and others like that, are the heavy on the battery? i just think the one x is too big for what i need

TBi

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's just the start of it. Keep away from the iphone, it's only got a 12mt warranty. Every other phone has 2 years. Says a lot when apple won't even stand over it for 24mts.

That's FUD. You get a 2 year warranty (or was it a guarantee) with everything bought in the EU. No matter what apple says they can't argue with the law.

JDPhotography wrote: »

why :pac:

iv been put off by the issues with imessage

I'm sure 3 will fix this issue, although personally i'd stay off 3. It's not even on the One X so if you are considering that why are you worried about iMessage? You might never use it? It works fine on meteor


Also remember that you are paying for either phone over your contract period. An iPhone is 45 euro per month on meteor for 24 months, while the sim only plan is 20 per month. 25 euro (the difference) * 24 months is 600 euro... which is the initial cost of the iPhone if you buy direct from apple. Same applies for the One X.

JDPhotography wrote: »

do the apps like viber and others like that, are the heavy on the battery? i just think the one x is too big for what i need

Best thing about iPhone is only the app you are using will be really running (this is a pro or con depending on user) so viber in the background won't use nearly as much battery as viber in the background on an android. Android has true multitasking, which means apps run fully in the background. iOS has a special multitasking setup where only the bare essentials (low power usage) run in the back ground which leads to better battery life.

That's an issue i found with android. At the start you get good battery life, after a few weeks of installing apps there are a few running in the background using all your battery. You have to go in and fiddle around with settings to save battery life. On iPhone it was consistent all the time, no need to worry about what may or may not be running.

One big one for me was GPS. On iPhone and WP7 i leave GPS on all the time, i never worry about it. Same with bluetooth and WiFi. My friends who have android phones (not ICS i grant you) are constantly switching these features on and off to save battery life. I prefer living my life than worrying if i left GPS on or not...

drunkmonkey

TBi wrote: »

That's FUD. You get a 2 year warranty (or was it a guarantee) with everything bought in the EU. No matter what apple says they can't argue with the law.
.

Once you activate the iPhone your agreeing to apples 12mt warranty. It's a **** warranty and takes a court case to get your rights.

TBi

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Once you activate the iPhone your agreeing to apples 12mt warranty. It's a **** warranty and takes a court case to get your rights.

Citation please? They can't make you agree to something that affects your statutory rights.

Here is what apple says, with kind thanks to Sad Professor.

JDPhotography

worried about it on 3 as it was the iphone i originally wanted as never had an iphone before
and seems to be a good size with good screen

Alanstrainor

JDPhotography wrote: »

worried about it on 3 as it was the iphone i originally wanted as never had an iphone before
and seems to be a good size with good screen

If it's an iPhone that you want, then get an iPhone. You've heard the pro's and con's of each.

puppetmaster

JDPhotography wrote: »

worried about it on 3 as it was the iphone i originally wanted as never had an iphone before
and seems to be a good size with good screen

If your looking for a phone the size of iphone 4s (HTC desire s, Htc one v, Lumia 800, are the ones coming to mind) they are becoming a rare species, all phones are getting bigger, even apple who have stuck to 3.5 inch since day one look set to move to 4.6 (one x is 4.7 but not much bigger in case size than a 4.3 sammy 2) There is always the option of going for a HTC one s, which is a little smaller than the x. and probably better battery life too.

imo unless you really really want a smaller screen id just make the jump to bigger now as your prob going to have to in the future anyway.

also only today i was lookin at drop tests on a good few phones, (dropping them to see how the screen fares) And as far as i could see the Iphone doesn't come out the best.

JDPhotography

puppetmaster wrote: »

If your looking for a phone the size of iphone 4s (HTC desire s, Htc one v, Lumia 800, are the ones coming to mind) they are becoming a rare species, all phones are getting bigger, even apple who have stuck to 3.5 inch since day one look set to move to 4.6 (one x is 4.7 but not much bigger in case size than a 4.3 sammy 2) There is always the option of going for a HTC one s, which is a little smaller than the x. and probably better battery life too.

imo unless you really really want a smaller screen id just make the jump to bigger now as your prob going to have to in the future anyway.

also only today i was lookin at drop tests on a good few phones, (dropping them to see how the screen fares) And as far as i could see the Iphone doesn't come out the best.

true, maybe the one x is the way to go....if i can finda white one

TBi

puppetmaster wrote: »

If your looking for a phone the size of iphone 4s (HTC desire s, Htc one v, Lumia 800, are the ones coming to mind) they are becoming a rare species, all phones are getting bigger, even apple who have stuck to 3.5 inch since day one look set to move to 4.6 (one x is 4.7 but not much bigger in case size than a 4.3 sammy 2)

Rare species? There is a demand for these phones plus there is no evidence (only hearsay and rumors) that apple will be releasing a phone with a bigger screen. No one will know until it's released.

I personally hate this trend for bigger phones. If i want a bigger screen i'll use a tablet or laptop. I want something that fits easily into my pocket and doesn't take up too much space. Also i find it hard to reach the upper left corner of a 4"+ screen with my thumb without repositioning my hand. Why would i buy a phone that's uncomfortable to use?

(One could also make a point about 'compensating' but that would be rude )

EDIT: Some nice reading: HTC One X bugs and HTC One X Screen flicker.

puppetmaster

TBi wrote: »

Rare species? There is a demand for these phones plus there is no evidence (only hearsay and rumors) that apple will be releasing a phone with a bigger screen. No one will know until it's released.

I personally hate this trend for bigger phones. If i want a bigger screen i'll use a tablet or laptop. I want something that fits easily into my pocket and doesn't take up too much space. Also i find it hard to reach the upper left corner of a 4"+ screen with my thumb without repositioning my hand. Why would i buy a phone that's uncomfortable to use?

(One could also make a point about 'compensating' but that would be rude )

EDIT: Some nice reading: HTC One X bugs and HTC One X Screen flicker.

Never said i liked it either, Your obvious bias for iphones aside though, Thats the way trends are going phones are getting bigger and the larger formats are soaking up the sales. you cant argue their becoming a rare thing the smaller screens, look at all the current and future announced releases of smart phones, id say atleast 70% are above 4" and the ones below are lower specs going forward, Htc one v, Xperia p (even though i think that just on the 4" mark)

Im pretty neutral when i comes to platforms people can read and decide for themselves, there's as many threads about issues with Iphones, Sammys, Htcs, etc etc. so there's no point in me posting links to issues with Iphones inparticular.

It is only rumours and no direct line from apple that their next phone will be bigger (there never is), but your hangin onto a thin thread if you are hopin for apple's next flagship phone to be 3.5" thats for sure.

TBi

puppetmaster wrote: »

Never said i liked it either, Your obvious bias for iphones aside though,

An iPhone lover with a HTC Trophy and no iPhone. Does that mean all WP7 owners have an iPhone bias?

puppetmaster wrote: »

It is only rumours and no direct line from apple that their next phone will be bigger (there never is), but your hangin onto a thin thread if you are hopin for apple's next flagship phone to be 3.5" thats for sure.

Not hanging onto any thread, but if it's bigger than 4" then i won't buy one.

With Steve gone it could be...

puppetmaster

TBi wrote: »

An iPhone lover with a HTC Trophy and no iPhone. Does that mean all WP7 owners have an iPhone bias?

Fair enough, i just read your "buy an iphone" and "htc problems" thread as bias i see you compared your personal preference earlier on.

Im using Android at the moment, have been for about 8 months now on a htc desire s, Never had one crash, doesn't slow down or lag that i notice and i like the ability to customise it so much. I had a 3gs for a while, and had several crashes on iOS, (not enough to turn me off it) just enough to make me feel android was more stable. I never have tried WP7 heard good reports, i reckon it would need more of an app base in order for me to buy one ( i realise thats a catch 22) But what it comes down to is personal experience.
Whether that be handset or os based its mostly personal.

TBi wrote: »

Not hanging onto any thread, but if it's bigger than 4" then i won't buy one.

With Steve gone it could be...

That too, All bets are off without jobsies "thats sh!t" QC inspection.

TBi

If they brought out a phone as powerful as the One S but the size of a One V (or a desire) i might actually buy one to try out ICS. ICS is tempting, my main issue is the phones are WAY too big for me. Plus i love WP7 and iOS

theteal

TBi wrote: »

If they brought out a phone as powerful as the One S but the size of a One V (or a desire) i might actually buy one to try out ICS. ICS is tempting, my main issue is the phones are WAY too big for me. Plus i love WP7 and iOS

it really is this simple, pack all that tech into something resembling my desire S and I'd be sold.

TBi

Gotta love ICS.

partyatmygaff

In case you haven't noticed or weren't aware.

The HTC One X and Galaxy SII are two different phones. Samsung's Galaxy phones have always been plagued by weird software problems like that.

Duggys Housemate

puppetmaster wrote: »

Never said i liked it either, Your obvious bias for iphones aside though, Thats the way trends are going phones are getting bigger and the larger formats are soaking up the sales. you cant argue their becoming a rare thing the smaller screens, look at all the current and future announced releases of smart phones, id say atleast 70% are above 4" and the ones below are lower specs going forward, Htc one v, Xperia p (even though i think that just on the 4" mark)

Apple has 56% of the American market as of this last quarter. This is probably the brand, rather than the size of the phone. However, it does seem that Android phones have to do something to distinguish themselves against the competitors with the same OS, and big trick at the moment is bigger screen sizes. If Apple do do that I think that the 4, or 4S could remain their cash cow, after the launch frenzy dies down.

TBi

partyatmygaff wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed or weren't aware.

The HTC One X and Galaxy SII are two different phones. Samsung's Galaxy phones have always been plagued by weird software problems like that.

But i thought ICS was amazeballs?

Are you saying now that only certain versions of ICS are good? Therefore it's wrong to say that all ICS based phones are stable?