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Another WMD expert who worked with David Kelly found dead

  • 22-04-2012 3:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭


    Suicide riddle of weapons expert who worked with David Kelly: Scientist tells wife he is going for a walk, then takes his life in a field... just like his friend

    Body of Dr Richard Holmes discovered in a field four miles from the Porton Down defence establishment

    Police said there were no suspicious circumstances in latest case but revealed scientist was 'under a great deal of stress'

    He resigned from Porton Down last month, but it is unclear why


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133201/Dr-Richard-Holmes-Suicide-riddle-weapons-expert-worked-David-Kelly.html#ixzz1smR9mrTN


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    While David Kelly is still highly suspicious, the second case MIGHT be a copy-cat suicide?
    The fact that they apparently were close friends makes all the sad deaths, even more strange indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭tiger55


    Them woods sure are a death trap for walkers:eek:

    Or maybe he was whacked by Mi5?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭tiger55


    Biggins wrote: »
    While David Kelly is still highly suspicious, the second case MIGHT be a copy-cat suicide?
    The fact that they apparently were close friends makes all the sad deaths, even more strange indeed.

    Both worked on the UK WMD program. What are they trying to cover up?

    David Kelly openly said he would be found 'dead in the woods' after he spoke out against Blair and his lies about WMD.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    Tony Blair is a classic socialised psychopath. It's perfectly obvious.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    tiger55 wrote: »
    ...David Kelly openly said he would be found 'dead in the woods' after he spoke out against Blair and his lies about WMD.
    Not saying he didn't say that - but would like to see who (in his close life) actually stated he said it.
    Just out of curiosity.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    Biggins wrote: »
    While David Kelly is still highly suspicious, the second case MIGHT be a copy-cat suicide?
    The fact that they apparently were close friends makes all the sad deaths, even more strange indeed.


    There is no such thing as copy-cat suicides. This is another example of pop-psychology buffoney being accepted as "fact" and then repreated verbatim by the dregs of jouranalism and media because some "expert" says so.

    The so called "copy cat" suicides are often unrelated and often mitigating factors such as drug abuse are involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭tiger55


    There is no such thing as copy-cat suicides. This is another example of pop-psychology buffoney being accepted as "fact" and then repreated verbatim by the dregs of jouranalism and media because some "expert" says so.

    The so called "copy cat" suicides are often unrelated and often mitigating factors such as drug abuse are involved.

    Its more like a copy cat murder and cover up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...often mitigating factors such as drug abuse are involved.

    I would like to see numbers on that possible far reaching assumption!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭tiger55


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not saying he didn't say that - but would like to see who (in his close life) actually stated he said it.
    Just out of curiosity.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-193281/Ill-dead-woods.html

    David Kelly openly exposed Blair was his war crimes and lies about WMD.

    Can you recall the mobile 45mins WMD labs Blair said Saddam had? Kelly exposed the fact that these 'labs' were for launching weather balloons.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    tiger55 wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-193281/Ill-dead-woods.html

    David Kelly openly exposed Blair was his war crimes and lies about WMD.

    Can you recall the mobile 45mins WMD labs Blair said Saddam had? Kelly exposed the fact that these 'labs' were for launching weather balloons.
    O' aye, I know about all that and how days before he was to testify, he was found dead.

    I'm just wondering who actually heard Mr Kelly stating he would be found dead in a woods.

    Edit: Found it. Supposedly it was a government offical Foreign Office official David Broucher.
    Himmm... now should we trust him or not - a good question considering who he's working for?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Biggins wrote: »
    O' aye, I know about all that and how days before he was to testify, he was found dead.

    I'm just wondering who actually heard Mr Kelly stating he would be found dead in a woods.

    Edit: Found it. Supposedly it was a government offical Foreign Office official David Broucher.
    Himmm... now should we trust him or not - a good question considering who he's working for?

    We'll know he is trust worthy if he ends up dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    Mossad > Mi5 no question about that.

    When Mossad wipes out a fella building WMDs yer man attaches a sticky bomb to a car while being a passenger on the back of a moped, how cool is that? Killing some lad while taking a stroll in a field just doesn't do it for me :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    tiger55 wrote: »
    Them woods sure are a death trap for walkers:eek:

    Or maybe he was whacked by Mi5?

    MI5 doesnt 'whack'. It 'neutralises'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    The David Kelly case has always been mysterious, and severaldoctors have questioned the veracity of his death and the circumstances behind it and called for a re-opening of the Hutton Enquiry... something which has a 70 year gagging order

    Read more here http://www.independent.co.uk/i/matrix/the-news-matrix-saturday-21-april-2012-7665857.html ( scroll down, small paragraph there)

    And article about 70 year sealing of files in relation to his post mortem results here

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/25/david-kelly-suicide-hutton-inquiry


    Most unusual, they claim it to because of sensitive information, but has there ever been such a length of time applied on such results before?

    Another interesting article here, in which a person close to Kelly discusses their conversations about WMDS in Iraq,which occured weeks before he died.
    www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/15/curveball-wmd-carne-ross


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Nothing to see here. Move along folks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Sandwlch wrote: »
    MI5 doesnt 'whack'. It 'neutralises'.

    ...And cleans up.

    Like all good washing powers powders should!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Apparently all the leaders of the French Revolution are dead too.

    Coincidence I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    There is no such thing as copy-cat suicides.

    Erm...so if I decide to do heroin and shoot myself with a shotgun, just like Kurt Cobain, and recreate all of the small details, right down to addressing a suicide-note to my imaginary childhood friend, and warn someone ahead of time that I'm going to kill myself the same way Cobain did...that wouldn't be a copy cat suicide?

    And what exactly about that concept do you think has to do with psychology?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a ridiculous conspiracy theory...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭tiger55


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a ridiculous conspiracy theory...

    are you one of these government troll bots?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with a ridiculous conspiracy theory...

    Yes well, its not as if British secret service would do anything questionable, would they? :pac:


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