Protein Intake

Oisinjm

I'm sure this has been discussed here before but I'm still a little confused regarding it. Is "the 30g of protein per meal all you can take" philosophy correct? From what I've read any excess protein you consume isn't turned into fat by your body. But is it still true that 30g of protein is roughly the max your body can deal with every 2 hours/meal?

Cheers,
Oisín

Hanley

Oisinjm wrote: »

I'm sure this has been discussed here before but I'm still a little confused regarding it. Is "the 30g of protein per meal all you can take" philosophy correct? From what I've read any excess protein you consume isn't turned into fat by your body. But is it still true that 30g of protein is roughly the max your body can deal with every 2 hours/meal?

Cheers,
Oisín

Here we go again!!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78135135

Liam90

If your trying to build muscle a rough guideline would be 1g of protein per 1lbs of bodyweight per day.

Timing is irrelevant, and "the 30g of protein per meal all you can take" is bull****.

Barry.Oglesby

Liam90 wrote: »

If your trying to build muscle a rough guideline would be 1g of protein per 1lbs of bodyweight per day.

Is anyone else really irritated by the mixing of imperial and metric in this oft quoted factoid?

Timing is irrelevant, and "the 30g of protein per meal all you can take" is bull****.

The 30g is actually pretty accurate inasmuch as anything like that can be. Timing is also quite relevant, particularly before/after training and before and after sleep.

If you'd like to put it to the test, get 2 guys to train equal amounts, have one ingest protein at regular intervals but particularly in the time slots I mentioned above, and have the other ingest all of his protein in one sitting at, say, 4pm every day. See how they get on.

And yes I know there are studies that say it's irrelevant, or that it's relevance has been overstated, but ask anyone with any experience what they think and you'll only really find a few outliers who'll tell you that it doesn't matter.

Gummy Panda

30g thing was basically a study showed the rate of protein synthesis didn't significantly increase after 20-30 grams was ingested. Broscience converted that into "no more then 30g protein or your wasting it".

Duck's hoop

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Is anyone else really irritated by the mixing of imperial and metric in this oft quoted factoid?

Yes.

Hanley

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Is anyone else really irritated by the mixing of imperial and metric in this oft quoted factoid?

2.204g of protein per kg of bodyweight just doesn't have the same ring...

irish son

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Is anyone else really irritated by the mixing of imperial and metric in this oft quoted factoid?


The 30g is actually pretty accurate inasmuch as anything like that can be. Timing is also quite relevant, particularly before/after training and before and after sleep.

If you'd like to put it to the test, get 2 guys to train equal amounts, have one ingest protein at regular intervals but particularly in the time slots I mentioned above, and have the other ingest all of his protein in one sitting at, say, 4pm every day. See how they get on.

And yes I know there are studies that say it's irrelevant, or that it's relevance has been overstated, but ask anyone with any experience what they think and you'll only really find a few outliers who'll tell you that it doesn't matter.

I think people IF'ing and getting good results would disagree with this

Hanley

irish son wrote: »

I think people IF'ing and getting good results would disagree with this

OH HAI STRAWMAN!!!!!!

ferike1

Hanley wrote: »

OH HAI STRAWMAN!!!!!!

I don't quite follow that? Inside joke?

irish son

Hanley wrote: »

OH HAI STRAWMAN!!!!!!

Whats that supposed to mean? Im not IF'ing myself, just saying alot of people seem to get good results with it.

Hanley

ferike1 wrote: »

I don't quite follow that? Inside joke?

irish son wrote: »

Whats that supposed to mean? Im not IF'ing myself, just saying alot of people seem to get good results with it.

Barry compared eating all your protein in one meal to spreading it over a day.

You created a strawman by using people's success on intermittent fasting to "prove" Barry wrong.

But intermittent fasting isn't about eating ALL your protein in one meal. It's about eating it in a condensed window, but not in half an hour.

You misrepresented his position and then "defeated" it with an example that is completely different to what he was talking about. Classic strawman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Duffman'05

Oisinjm wrote: »

From what I've read any excess protein you consume isn't turned into fat by your body.

You read wrong. Protein provides roughly 4kcal of energy per gram consumed. That energy has to go somewhere, and if you have an extremely sedentary lifestyle (ie consuming more calories than you are burning) it will most likely be stored in your adipose tissue, just like most of the energy you don't use up.

Barry.Oglesby

Duffman'05 wrote: »

Oisinjm wrote: »

From what I've read any excess protein you consume isn't turned into fat by your body.

You read wrong. Protein provides roughly 4kcal of energy per gram consumed. That energy has to go somewhere, and if you have an extremely sedentary lifestyle (ie consuming more calories than you are burning) it will most likely be stored in your adipose tissue, just like most of the energy you don't use up.

Not so. It's very difficult for protein to be converted to fat. Excess is usually excreted in urine.

irish son

Hanley wrote: »

Barry compared eating all your protein in one meal to spreading it over a day.

You created a strawman by using people's success on intermittent fasting to "prove" Barry wrong.

But intermittent fasting isn't about eating ALL your protein in one meal. It's about eating it in a condensed window, but not in half an hour.

You misrepresented his position and then "defeated" it with an example that is completely different to what he was talking about. Classic strawman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I know its not exactly like he said in eating all your protein in one sitting but a lot of people on it eat 2/3 of protein in pwo meal. While it doesnt prove the one meal protein theory, in my opinion it at least puts a dent in his theory of the evenly through the day, especially the before and after sleep part as they do neither of these. I didnt say he was wrong or I disproved him, I just said some people would disagree, nor did he prove he was right, the only way to see would be to do the experiment he said which would be interesting to see the results of.

Mellor

Hanley wrote: »

2.204g of protein per kg of bodyweight just doesn't have the same ring...

How about half an ounce per stone of bodyweight. Should be pretty close to the same ratio, nice and imperial too.