How do I dispute an NCT fail (structural corrosion)

cdaly_

So, my '90 Saab 900 failed NCT today with 'Structural Corrosion' in a number of places. Looking under the car, one of the identified places is structural but will be easy to sort. The other places are in non-structural areas and so shouldn't be a failure as they don't affect the car's safety. They'll need to be done at some stage but I don't want to have to do them now (I'll be doing a restoration job soon but now is not the time).

So, is there any way to dispute the NCT result on that basis?

T-Maxx

On what basis are you disputing the NCT results? Are you a structural engineer?

I think you'd have to get it repaired, and then get a "motor engineer" to certify that it's been properly done, and submit this cert to the NCT during the re-test.

Hardly worth it financially I'd say.

MugMugs

T-Maxx wrote: »

On what basis are you disputing the NCT results? Are you a structural engineer?

Are NCTS mechanics?

BrianD3

Where is the corrosion that you say is non structural? Have you read the NCT manual on this

slimjimmc

Before you challenge you should check whether the disputed areas are part of the Primary structure or the Secondary structure as per the NCT Manual (sect 35).

[edit]BrianD3's post is clearer[/edit]

unkel

MugMugs wrote: »

Are NCTS mechanics?

yes the testers are qualified mechanics

cdaly_

Very informative manual, thanks for the pointer.

Looks like the two of the failed areas are Primary structure but that looks like surface rust to me. I can deal with that handily.

The remaining areas I would call Secondary structure (eg. where the front wing joins the floor panel at the front of the engine compartment). Of course the manual is not sufficiently clear on this point so I'd have to argue that point too. The level of rust there would be between 'Advanced' and 'Extensive'. Given the manual says 'Advanced' is acceptable in Secondary structure (with no jagged edges) but 'Extensive' is not, it's down to deciding if it counts as Extensive or not.

Given that their definition of 'Extensive' is:

NCT Manual wrote:

Rust flakes - removal of which leaves a very rough or holed surface. Pits go right through and cause eruption on far side.

and there are one or two places where I can poke through I guess I'm shagged. Darn (or words to that effect). I really didn't need this just now...

Thanks for your help folks.

MugMugs

unkel wrote: »

MugMugs wrote: »

Are NCTS mechanics?

yes the testers are qualified mechanics

Your point is non relevant to the quote. Mechanics are not structural engineers.

Anan1

MugMugs wrote: »

Your point is non relevant to the quote. Mechanics are not structural engineers.

Am I missing something, or did unkel simply answer your question?

MugMugs

Anan1 wrote: »

MugMugs wrote: »

Your point is non relevant to the quote. Mechanics are not structural engineers.

Am I missing something, or did unkel simply answer your question?

NCTS are a company. They can't BE mechanics. They hire mechanics. Perhaps I should have phrased it better. Allow me to do so now. Are NCTS mechanics structural engineers?

Guy:Incognito

MugMugs wrote: »

Are NCTS mechanics?

They dont have to be, but if someone wants to dispute what they say, they are going to either need to be qualified to do so , or have someone who is say so.

Anan1

MugMugs wrote: »

NCTS are a company. They can't BE mechanics. They hire mechanics. Perhaps I should have phrased it better. Allow me to do so now. Are NCTS mechanics structural engineers?

Yeah, you needed tone for that one.

unkel

MugMugs wrote: »

Your point is non relevant to the quote. Mechanics are not structural engineers.

Ah ok, I understand what you meant to ask now. I suppose Guy:Incognito gave the best answer.