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Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    I would hope that the US would have common sense to know that an attack on Iran would be a disaster, and it might actually result in Iran kicking off a nuclear program, and going for broke in creating a weapon, and essentially cause that which they claim to want to prevent.

    Also, a US or Israeli attack will completely kill the green movement, who themselves are patriotic Iranians, and could actually strengten the current regime.

    The risks of such an attack, far out way the risk of a non-existent nuclear weapons program.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Border-Rat


    So are the conservitards demanding war getting ready for this type of outcome? Surely their belief in kleptocracy and keeping the bomb from the evil ones is so steadfast, they're ready to quit their jobs and volunteer to fight the enemies of freedumb (Including Russians)?

    Come on lads, lead the way! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    There are to be fresh talks with Iran, including Russia, on the nuclear issue next month. Any military moves Russia are making now are purely posturing/political.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,825 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The biggest problem in the world is these silly boys with their weapons. No point in spending all that money developing them if they can't test them out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Thing is even if Iran builds a working bomb, look historically: Russia and the US weren't overnight superpowers in the nuclear respect. The US dropped two effective bombs and the next few decades were spent developing and arsenal.

    Which means Iran either has to be suicidal for the sake of launching one or two low Kt yield warheads, or they will have to negotiate with the UNSC/Russia/US for their continued sovereignty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Border-Rat wrote: »
    The Anglo-Axis is marching us down a perilous path. We were here ten years ago - threatening a Country on dubious charges. The Russians are acting reasonably and this will not end well.


    Yes its well known the Russians act reasonable, they would never invade another country,They would never abuse prisoners,They would never assassinate there citizens on foreign soil,They would never do anything that would upset regional or other world countries for there own intrest,Yes Russia is well known for acting reasonably :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Title says Russia is massing troops, text says Russia has developed a plan.

    Which is it ? A plan or an real troop movement?

    I smell sensationalist claptrap from the original article?

    Basically the real story, which is a complete non-story, is that if a bordering country to Russia is invaded they will re-inforce their own borders and ensure they have troops in the right area to defend themselves.

    Pretty standard, no ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    realies wrote: »
    Yes its well known the Russians act reasonable, they would never invade another country,They would never abuse prisoners,They would never assassinate there citizens on foreign soil,They would never do anything that would upset regional or other world countries for there own intrest,Yes Russia is well known for acting reasonably :rolleyes:

    I think he is referring to this instance. Its not Russia threatening to invade Iran.:rolleyes:

    On the matter of their citizens on foreign soil, if they were giving away state secrets I see no problem with them taking these people out. The UK is giving sanctuary to a Russian Billionaire who is trying to destabilise his own country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I am pie wrote: »
    Title says Russia is massing troops, text says Russia has developed a plan.

    Which is it ? A plan or an real troop movement?

    I smell sensationalist claptrap from the original article?

    Basically the real story, which is a complete non-story, is that if a bordering country to Russia is invaded they will re-inforce their own borders and ensure they have troops in the right area to defend themselves.

    Pretty standard, no ?

    You would think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Bullseye 1 wrote: »
    I think he is referring to this instance. Its not Russia threatening to invade Iran.:rolleyes:

    On the matter of their citizens on foreign soil, if they were giving away state secrets I see no problem with them taking these people out. The UK is giving sanctuary to a Russian Billionaire who is trying to destabilise his own country.


    I am quite aware of what border rat is posting thanks, its his posting of Russia is acting reasonable, as for the rest of your post would you care to elaborate more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    realies wrote: »
    I am quite aware of what border rat is posting thanks, its his posting of Russia is acting reasonable, as for the rest of your post would you care to elaborate more.

    I'm sure your well aware of the Russian Agent killed in London who was sponsored by the Russian Billionaire also located in London.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Bullseye 1 wrote: »
    I'm sure your well aware of the Russian Agent killed in London who was sponsored by the Russian Billionaire also located in London.


    I am.


    So in your opinion people who threaten state secrets or try to destabilize there own country, Its ok for them to be taken out.

    Not disagreeing with your opinion just asking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    realies wrote: »
    I am.


    So in your opinion people who threaten state secrets or try to destabilize there own country, Its ok for them to be taken out.

    Not disagreeing with your opinion just asking.

    Yes. And I am sure most of the big players on the international scene have done it in the past. So I find in hypocritical of the British Government when the incident occurred.

    Obviously I would prefer no one was killed but the guy sowed the seeds of his own destruction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia
    Using Iran as an excuse to mobilize several divisions into Georgia? Clever tactic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    realies wrote: »
    Yes its well known the Russians act reasonable, they would never invade another country,They would never abuse prisoners,They would never assassinate there citizens on foreign soil,They would never do anything that would upset regional or other world countries for there own intrest,Yes Russia is well known for acting reasonably :rolleyes:

    Naturally if the filthy Ruskies do this it is evil, when the yanks or Israel do it it is Realpolitik and commendable in the defence of the free world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Russia is probably just posturing and securing the natural barrier that is the caucasus mountains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    and has developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia to stage in Armenia, which borders on the Islamic republic, according to informed Russian sources

    No way Georgia leaves Russia send troops through its territory after the 2008 war. So at the very least to enact this plan the Russians would need to first invade Georgia and all that to get into a war with opponents who could do it real damage. I call BS on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Border-Rat wrote: »
    The Anglo-Axis is marching us down a perilous path. We were here ten years ago - threatening a Country on dubious charges. The Russians are acting reasonably and this will not end well.
    RichieC wrote: »
    Naturally if the filthy Ruskies do this it is evil, when the yanks or Israel do it it is Realpolitik and commendable in the defence of the free world.


    I was pointing out that the russians where far from reasonable and are just as bad as the other powers in the reigion.Something that a lot of posters here seem or like to forget.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Border-Rat


    realies wrote: »
    I was pointing out that the russians where far from reasonable and are just as bad as the other powers in the reigion.Something that a lot of posters here seem or like to forget.

    I think if Russia invaded two Southern American Countries and threatened to attack a third, American 'posturing' would be 'reasonable' in response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Eggy Baby!


    The situation with Iran again highlights the hypocrisy evident in US foreign policy. They claim to fight terrorism, but support Israel, who only recently blew up a car containing an Iranian scientist in a busy street. Along with many other instances of deniable assassination, sabotage and terror.

    Netanyahoo is like Mussolini, always huffing and puffing and posturing but he won't won't do anything unless he is supported by his bigger "ally".

    And yes, I believe Russia has a right to draw up plans, considering national and global security is at stake here. The Americans are tinkering with forces far beyond their control, like the Austro-Hungarians in 1914. Iran has a friendship with Russia which has a friendship with China which has a friendship with India. Israel has a friendship with America which has a friendship with the rest of NATO. This whole situation is beginning to smell wrong.

    And the UN is only putting sanctions on Iran to prevent it from joining the SCO, which will form someday into an anti-American axis.


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