UK legal self defence sprays?

buzzardflute

Would these type of sprays be classed as illegal in ireland?

http://www.stoppared.com/index.htm

http://www.farbgel.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1

Procrastastudy

Even if they are bear in mind that the way they are used may not be.

Departed

"Allows you to escape/call police and marks the assailant for ID".

For what so the garda can arrest him and he gets a suspended sentence?

buzzardflute

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

Even if they are bear in mind that the way they are used may not be.

Say if it was used on some intruder that had broken into your home?i'm not quiet sure if the guards would class it as self defence or assault with a firearm?

Del2005

buzzardflute wrote: »

Say if it was used on some intruder that had broken into your home?i'm not quiet sure if the guards would class it as self defence or assault with a firearm?

Why purchase something questionable when there are plenty of things which you can legally own which will do the same job?

jblack

Use the search function, there are plenty of threads on this.

buzzardflute

jblack wrote: »

Use the search function, there are plenty of threads on this.

Have done,still can't answer the question on whether its legal or illegal to have in your possession or to use in a self defence situation.

Procrastastudy

You have misunderstood the myriad of threads regarding this issue.

Is it legal to have a string of sausages in your posession? Yes

Now if you use those sausages to garrotte someone who attempts to mug you killing them - you have (most likely) used unreasonable force and will spend some time in the Joy. Same with your fists, a cricket bat, laptop or whatever. It's not what you used but how you used it.

There was a thread specifically on mace etc where various people outlined the Acts governing their use. You would need to have a good read though those threads and the Acts. Once you've done that you could probably get an answer here if your interpretation of the Acts leaves you with a question on whether the type of spray you are talking about is illegal per se. That question will probably give you several different answers.

Practically do you really live somewhere that bad? I've never had an issue in ten years (touch wood) and only ever been searched by the Gardai when Lizzy and Phil were over. If you're tht worried carry some purfume round - some of that in the eyes and the mugger, rapist, hoodie / other daily mail menace will have the same effect - AND they will smell nice.

Witcher

buzzardflute wrote: »

Have done,still can't answer the question on whether its legal or illegal to have in your possession or to use in a self defence situation.

It's illegal to possess nevermind use, same question was asked a few months back.

Edit: That was pepper spray, not too sure about these now that I look at the website.

BornToKill

I have to say I think the question is fair enough. These products are not mace or pepper sprays so the search function isn't a lot of assistance. Weapons which discharge 'any noxious liquid, noxious gas, or other noxious thing' are defined under section 1 of the Firearms Act 1925 as prohibited. That's pretty straighforward and catches pepper sprays and the like. They become classified as prohibited firearms.

The two sprays linked in the OP do not seem, however, to discharge a noxious liquid. The first one appears to be a form of glue and the second to be dyed water. It's hard to see how they could fall into the category of prohibited firearms. I would still be ultra-cautious though as its one thing t explore the issue on a forum and its another thing to do it in court on the wrong end of a firearms charge.

buzzardflute

As i see it,the uk legal type of sprays are just classed as marking sprays that could not be compared to carrying pepper spray or mace,but in saying that they look the same as pepper spray and are deployed in the same manner.I think in the event of a break in to your home one of these type of sprays could really help you to stun the intruder and get out safely to call the guards.

But then what happens when the guards come to find a scumbag in your home that has got sprayed and is blinded and cant find his way out?I think the term incapacitating in irish firearms law would catch this spray and make it illegal.

RandolphEsq

Would a fly-repellent spray or spray deodorant do a job on an intruder in your home?

Procrastastudy

Or spray glue. Or spray paint!

Pkiernan

jasonpat

If these types of sprays have not serious bad or side effects on human body then i think government give the license to use these types of sprays.