Volvo V40 ?

Mar4ix

Hi, as i am hunting after another car,found some volvo v40 , 1.8 , 00 -01 petrol engine. Believe engine is based on mitsubishi engine.

Any thoughts about it ?

What is consumption and reliability ?


Goin use it for short journeys .. .

thanks

colm_mcm

Those 1.8 GDI models aren't highly thought of. I wouldn't bother.

Mar4ix

found one over net, for 300 euro, needs flywheel and battery , body looks good from pictures, would call it a reasonable priced, if it have all faults called, and nothing hidden . couldnt speak to owner, didnt answer phone (well .. that's sunday, couldn't expect answer call), but in recorded voicemail was female voice. left a message , will might have a look, if she returns a call. overall not bad reviews over net, 1.8 called underpowered, but i am not really want go for race.

bazzer30

Had one

1.8litre is a volvo engine the 1.8i is a mitsubishi GDI engine.

The GDI is prone to "coking up" so after approx 80000miles it needs to be cleaned (i.e. engine head removed and cleaned) also the air mass meter failed in this case. volvo quoted 3500 to fix I got it done for around 700 using a non volvo garage getting parts from mitsubishi and not volvo.

I did love the car, it has a good bit of poke and consumption wasn't bad, it was supposed to be more powerful and more frugal than the volvo engine alternative.

If this job has been done recently then it should be OK

Mar4ix

bazzer30 wrote: »

Had one

1.8litre is a volvo engine the 1.8i is a mitsubishi GDI engine.

The GDI is prone to "coking up" so after approx 80000miles it needs to be cleaned (i.e. engine head removed and cleaned) also the air mass meter failed in this case. volvo quoted 3500 to fix I got it done for around 700 using a non volvo garage getting parts from mitsubishi and not volvo.

I did love the car, it has a good bit of poke and consumption wasn't bad, it was supposed to be more powerful and more frugal than the volvo engine alternative.



If this job has been done recently then it should be OK

cant see more less modern engine ''coking up'' if looked after, in time changed oil and proper coolant used. dont think there is issue. i know mitsubishi diesel engines have a trouble with engine heads, but petrol ones are solid and good long term engines if looked after.

Leonard Hofstadter

The problem with the GDI engine is the very name of it - it's a direct injection petrol.

Basically, all petrol engines, be they those with direct injection, or without direct injection, can suffer from carbon build up if driven too gently for a long time and/or constant stop start driving.

In an indirect injection, the petrol 'washes' through the valves, in a direct injection petrol engine, the fuel goes straight into the cylinder - and it is this crucial difference that results in GDI engines giving trouble.

You see, if a regular petrol engine suffers from carbon build up, all you need to do is give it an 'Italian tune up' (basically drive it like you're late for mass for a while), and this will burn off all the carbon inside in the cylinders, plus any carbon around the valves (from the force and heat of the fuel being injected when the valves open because of the hard driving), so that clears out all the carbon.

You can't do this with a direct injection petrol by definition - the only thing a good hard drive of a direct injection petrol will do is clean out the cylinders!

You don't need to strip the head - there are products on the market that you can buy for about €60-70 that you spray into the inlet manifold and will clean out all the rubbish built up in the valves!

Those GDI engines suffer from loads of other problems, so really they are impossible to recommend.

A lot of newer generation petrol engines have direct injection as well, and seem to be ok - it should be pointed out that this was the world's first direct injection petrol engine (after the Mercedes 300 SL from 1954), hence why they are so problematic. In this sense, they really were ahead of their time.

A V40 with the regular 1.8 Volvo engine is a much, much better bet - that engine is bulletproof, although it is a bit heavy on fuel!

bazzer30

Mar4ix wrote: »

cant see more less modern engine ''coking up'' if looked after, in time changed oil and proper coolant used. dont think there is issue. i know mitsubishi diesel engines have a trouble with engine heads, but petrol ones are solid and good long term engines if looked after.

Well it did, my car has 100% volvo service history, very well looked after car, mix of urban and open road driving, (i.e. engine got plenty of long runs to clear out), so much so when I arrived at the volvo garage they expressed surprise at the amount of mileage I got before the problem arose, they thought it should have occurred sooner. Interestingly I went on volvo forums and this problem is common and in England volvo fixed this problem but in Ireland they did not.

Mar4ix

ok ok, what engine on v40 would be most reliable ? 1.6, 2.0 ? or 2.0 T. ? diesels are too expensive for me at the moment.

Leonard Hofstadter

Anything with a Volvo engine will be fine, NA being better as there is less to go wrong! The 1.8 is certainly no ball of fire, so I dread to think how bad the 1.6 is, especially in an estate!

Mar4ix

captainspeed wrote: »

Anything with a Volvo engine will be fine, NA being better as there is less to go wrong! The 1.8 is certainly no ball of fire, so I dread to think how bad the 1.6 is, especially in an estate!

How to recognise on v40, what engine it have, volvo or mitsubishi ? is there some particular sign, or part to look on to ?

colm_mcm

Normal ones are 1.8, GDI are badged 1.8i

also the GDI ones have GDI written on the engine cover in big letters.

Leonard Hofstadter

Reverse in a GDI is located in the usual spot for a Japanese car with a five speed gearbox (besides fourth gear), in the Volvo engined models it's next to first like most European cars! Although I think some of the later Volvo engined models had reverse in the same place as the GDIs.

The GDIs sound a bit strange and are louder than the regular models. Another clue is the spec - the GDIs will have leather, climate control, alloys, cruise, fogs etc, they're very well equipped even by today's standards. Most of the regular models will only have standard a/c, no fake wood, cruise or leather, although they added a load of equipement to the standard models from 2003 onwards to get rid of the last of them.

Mar4ix

in cartell it says Volvo V40, 1.8 SE , so there is no "i" letter, could it have volvo engine then ?

Mar4ix

is that the old shape or facelift ? http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/V40/V40-1.8-/201208207032020/advert?channel=CARS

Leonard Hofstadter

That's a GDI, that photo reminded me of something I forgot to mention - the GDIs have a '1.8i' badge, the regular models have no 'i' badge at the rear.

bazz26

The Volvo 1.8 litre engine is 1783cc. The Mitsubishi 1.8 litre GDI engine is 1834cc.

Mar4ix

what yous think about '99 diesel engine, 1.9 tdi ? after work on engine head