IMC TEAM IN ACTION AGAIN 4 NATIONS UK

Siamdragon

Well done to everyone who made it on the Irish Team to compete in the 4 nations,This Years promises to be even bigger then last year with stronger Teams from all side entering this year to try over throw the Irish Champions of last year
Ireland are the Defending Champion Nation this year so we are all looking to return with the Cup for the second year in a row
All the Members of the Team will be post up Shortly good luck to Ireland


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Siamdragon

The Irish team are all in training and getting ready for this event,

this is another great chance for the IMC to show case Irish Muaythai on the world stage same Event as some of the following names who will all be at the NEC Martial Arts Show that weekend,
And a nice Chance for our fighters to meet some of these great people who have excelled in there Chosen Sport

Randy Couture
PJ Penn
Ban Henderson
Michael Bisping
Bill super foot Wallace
Joe Lewis
Alex Reid
Don the Dragon Wilson
Julie kitchen

lawrencesummers

Hahahahahaha alex reid hahahahah excelled at his own sport hahahahah

Eddy L

Who is on the Irish team?

The good English gyms and fighters do not bother with theses type of tournemants its a money racket at the end of the day.

If it was held in any high regard you would have the likes of jordan watson dean james etc on the English team.

Good luck any way im off to investigate whether the Irish team really did win this last year becasue if they did im sure it would have been all over this forum.Same way it was claimed they won the competition v Scotland last year when they did not.

Peetrik

Eddy L wrote: »

The good English gyms and fighters do not bother with theses type of tournemants its a money racket at the end of the day.

If it was held in any high regard you would have the likes of jordan watson dean james etc on the English team.

In fairness Eddy it is an Amateur event, there would be no recognition or purse to attract the likes of Watson or James.

Personally I like the idea of these types of events as your pretty much guaranteed a fight at the end of your training. I know the likes of Khannie, and myself to a lesser extent over the past year, have been absolutely plagued with fighters pulling out after spending literally months preparing to fight.
At least this way there is a good chance of there being someone to fight at the end of it.

That said I wasn't thrilled at all about the idea of me being the one having to pay instead of the other way around. Some of the 'extras' on the show like the "celebs" and the like look like an excuse to get the promoters friends paid out of the pockets of fighters.
For example why would I want to meet Randy Couture? My own coach knows a hell of a lot more about Thai Boxing than Couture, sure I can understand why that kind of name might attract spectators from the public but I'm not keen on the idea of making Thai boxers pay to see him.

Besides all that I still like the idea of shows like this, I would like it more if there were less 'expensive frills' that might allow them to be run without the fighters having to pay to compete.

Just my 2c

chprt

Eddy how I have missed you

Paddy, the 4 nations is not just a show on its own, but part of a huge Martial arts wkd in the birmingham NEC, where the 4 nations is squeezed into a corner of it, apparently its massive, so there will be lots of MMA fighters, trainers at it as well as all other MA folks, stands, demos etc..

Unfortunately with most Amatuer events, the costs are incurred by the gym or fighter, travelling to this with a bit of forward planning is costing my me about €150 each for my lads, I have 5 fighting now its only 2, so its no that much, when you consider they gettin 2 fights out of it

Paying to meet fighters I dont really agree with but I think thai boxers can learn a lot from some of them MMA guys, wrestlers like randy are great at cutting weight, he was an avid fan of having his blood cleaned as well, something I would like to know more about, so there are benefits to it, that being said it aint nice to have to pay for it. I met Andy Souwer and Peter Aerts among a few at a show i Holland and they would have stood talking all day, for free.... or so I thought when i had a million pints in me

Another reason I like to go is to get to meet other coaches and then sure try get onto their pro shows in the future, as its difficult enough.

PLUS there are some savage curry shops in birmingham

Peetrik

chprt wrote: »

Paddy, the 4 nations is not just a show on its own, but part of a huge Martial arts wkd in the birmingham NEC, where the 4 nations is squeezed into a corner of it, apparently its massive, so there will be lots of MMA fighters, trainers at it as well as all other MA folks, stands, demos etc..

Ah ok it makes a lot more sense now.

Just to clarify do the fighters have to pay to enter? As in besides having to pay for flights, hotels etc do they have to pay to fight?

alanrebelsw

Alex Reid,craziness haha

Eddy L

Just seen on Axkickboxing that phill the power taylor and steve davis will also be there passing there knowledge from there respected sports.

j walsh

Hi Peetrik,

All IMC coaches were notified at the start of the year regarding the following events, the Four Nations, Europeans and World Championships and advised to fund raise in order to save expense.
No entry fee to fight plus free admission for the weekend.
I agree with what Paddy said plus weighing in every morning gives young fighters a great insight into whats expected if their interested in fighting at the bigger tournaments mentioned above.
Plus if Muay Thai make it to the olympics...fingers crossed.
I also agree with Paddy it's great having Aaron back

John.

Peetrik

j walsh wrote: »

No entry fee to fight plus free admission for the weekend.

Ah ok thanks for clearing that up John, thats a different story than fighters having to pay to compete in that case.

sean long

im looking forward to this weekend and i also agree with paddy the curry chips will be nice

chprt

for the lads going to the 4 nations...

I was talking to a yogi last night, as I was maybe going to have one of my lads fight James france or be in the 8 man.... I for some stupid reason thought it was in london, but its in Birmingham about 6 miles from the airport.

Anyone wanting to go to it, let me know as yogi is going to do me a deal on a VIP table for 10 people, 3 course meal included, or we can just buy normal tkts and head over to it...

The line up for it is savage, and the extremely talented Dean james is fighting on it as well


Let me know here or Fbook me and i will get tkts sorted


paddy

Khannie

j walsh wrote: »

Plus if Muay Thai make it to the olympics...fingers crossed.

I've seen a few people mention this recently. Is it on the cards?

chprt

Its certainly being worked towards, no matter what country your from if your WMC connected, they are working and have been for the last few years towards this..

The lads here especially Sean and Craig and a few others have been flat out working the last few years for it.

It wont be the likes of you or me Khannie going but if all this work comes good in about 5 or 6 years you might see a young khannie jnr heading off.... now wouldnt that be something

Khannie

It sure would.

j walsh

Its short listed at the moment for 2016 Khannie .

j walsh

Also regarding an earlier comment that i made implying that Aaron could be Eddy L in jest.
Well i was told today that it certainly isn't Aaron.
So apologies for that Aaron and i shouldn't have mentioned anyone's name anyway.

Eddy L

Thaiboxing will never make the olympics to be honest,unless its watered down to a points type thing(like takewondo),i would not see the olympic committee being to pleased seeing guys elbowing the head off each other.

If it does,would it not be the same as any other olympic sport and there being qualification tournements?.
To be fair MT has grown a lot in Ireland the past few years,but if there was a similar qualification system as the boxing,i do not think an irish man would qualify.well possible stephen meleady and mark casserly would be the best hopes mho.All the top eurpoean fighters would be out to qualify.

Peetrik

Eddy L wrote: »

but if there was a similar qualification system as the boxing,i do not think an irish man would qualify.well possible stephen meleady and mark casserly would be the best hopes mho.All the top eurpoean fighters would be out to qualify.

You reckon? I would have thought Ireland had a fairly decent standard of Thai boxing especially for such a small country. Maybe because when we were all loaded plenty of Irish people could afford to go over and train.
From what I can see the sport is growing very fast too when you compare the number of gyms and shows there are now compared to 5 or 10 years ago and that's without taking all the new amateur shows into consideration.
I would have thought that we're well on track for Olympic competitors personally.

Khannie

Peetrik wrote: »

I would have thought that we're well on track for Olympic competitors personally.

Agreed. Lots of very strong fighters here across all weight divisions. Would love to see how we'd stack up at the Olympics.

chprt

Khannie and Peetrik


I have to go with Eddy on this one. Although the standard is getting better here in ireland through some hard work from coaches, on an amateur level in Europe I dont think we are quite there yet.

Take you average french fighter, or Ukranian or Polish fighter, they are non stop fighting. I remember fighting on a show in france for my 3rd fight, and there were Ukranian lads aged 19 with 175 fights... I still have the programme at home....


The Khazistan team, with whom I went to a training camp before, and all them x-russian teams are savage and very tough and fight pretty much ever weekend, as Eddy says I can only see a few lads making it through.

That being said I think it would be great if it did and get the sport a bit of publicity and money from the sports council.

Again only my opinion and not meant to offend and one ( Khannie is excluded from this )


paddy

j walsh

Remember boxing before the sports council put decent money into it.
They didn't get anywhere near the amount of medals that their getting now.
So it always starts small plus most of the countries in the amateurs have massive funding from their governments and that's why their ahead of us and that funding would start for us if we did get to the Olympics. We shall walk first lads.

Khannie

chprt wrote: »

I remember fighting on a show in france for my 3rd fight, and there were Ukranian lads aged 19 with 175 fights... I still have the programme at home....

:eek:

Wow. That is impressive. Still though, they have interclubs all the time in the UK and we stack up surprisingly well in internationals against them. A lot of lads migrate to Thai from boxing or other competitive arts here (like TKD). While I'd agree that on paper we probably wouldn't stack up, I think in practice we'd probably do reasonably well. Of course it's hard not to be biased towards your own countrymen.

chprt wrote: »

Again only my opinion and not meant to offend and one ( Khannie is excluded from this )

Jaysus Paddy you're really slipping. You used to be OK at slagging me. Well....better than crap anyway.

Peetrik

Yeah as Khannie said, I thought we were doing quite well over in the UK and the rest of Europe. Not disagreeing with you Paddy, just surprised is all.
Its not like our A class fighters are being put against their B/C level fighters.

Obviously countries with 40mil or so population have a bigger pool to draw from and more shows, I'm not for a second suggesting we would go and clean up but at the same time I reckon we'd get a few through qualifications and into the actual Olympics... which in fairness is enough to get Olympic sized pools etc built for other sports.

RedRaven

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Siamdragon

IRISH MUAYTHAI COUNCIL
Well done to all the IMC Irish Team who fought in Birmingham this weekend, some great results for the Irish Team which shows how strong and organized the Irish Squad was for this event,

Nearly all fighter had 2 fights over the Weekend with some fighters having to fight 3 times in there weight Class. IMC Team 13 fighters 18 fights over the weekend 14 Wins 3 lose 1 Draw. Here is a quick list of the results for the Irish Team and we will do a full report on the fights shortly, Well done to all involved

Che Scott Juniors Draw
Jamie Mason Junior WIN 57KG SILVER
Kate Healy LOSE 54KG
Siobhan Foley WINS 57kg GOLD
Darren Gayson WIN GOLD
Paul Norton WINS 71KG GOLD
Dave Phelan WINS 60KG GOLD
Stephan Mulvanny WINS 75KG SILVER
John McClaffery WINS 75KG GOLD
Gary Walsh WIN 86KG GOLD
Paddy Clint LOSE 91KG
Sean Long WINS 75KG GOLD
Joey O Brien 91KG LOSE

IMC Irish Team Coaches
Mr. Craig OFlynn
Mr. John Walsh
Mr. Walter Scot
Mr. Paddy Clint

Irish Muaythai Council

Siamdragon

Hey all,

Here are the full results from the weekend:

Male ‘A’ Division

-67kg
England > Kyle Hellier (Lord Hell Gym) – Gold
England > Marcus Compton (St.Neots Mt Gym) – Silver
Wales > Stephen John (Eagles Gym) – Bronze

-75kg
Ireland > Sean Long (Ireland Gym) – Gold
England > Wayne Gardner (Cobra Gym) – Silver

Male ‘B’ Division

-60kg
Ireland > David Phelan (Republic Ireland Gym) – Gold
Wales > Giacomo Scarano (Spirit Gym) – Silver
Scotland > Taylor Ferguson (SMTC) – Bronze

-63.5kg
Ireland > Darren Gayson (Ireland Gym) – Gold
Wales > Jason Collard (Eagles Gym) – Silver
Ireland > James Cummings (Ireland Gym) – Bronze

-67kg
England > Marcus Compton (St.Neots Gym) – Gold
England > Dan McCaughey (Muaythai 8 Gym) – Silver

-71kg
Ireland > Paul Norton (Ireland Gym) – Gold
England > Kevin Modiri (4th Dimension Gym) – Silver
England > James McQullian (TMA Gym) - Bronze
Wales > Danny Jones (Eagles Gym) - Bronze
Scotland > Gary Stewart (SMTC) – Bronze

-75kg
Ireland > John McClaffery (Republic Ireland Gym) - Gold
England > Adam Memon (Singto Gym) - Silver
Wales > Chris Martin (Eagles Gym) - Bronze
Ireland > Stephen Mulvanny (Ireland Gym) – Bronze

-81kg
England > Stuart Hawksworth (4th Dimension Gym) – Gold
England > Dan Burton (Muaythai 8 Gym) – Silver
England > Daniel Aldred (4th Dimension Gym) – Bronze
England > Yeorgos Theodoru (Muaythai 8 Gym) – Bronze

-86kg
Ireland > Gary Walsh (Ireland Gym) – Gold
England > Jonathan Gibson (4th Dimension Gym) – Silver
England > Josh Wheeler (Muaythai 8 Gym) – Bronze

-91kg
Wales > Charles Sikwa (Eagles Gym) – Gold
Ireland > Joey O’Brien (Republic Ireland Gym) – Silver
Ireland > Paddy Clint (Ireland Gym) – Bronze

+91kg
England > Athos Konstandi (Muaythai 8 Gym) – Gold

Women Division

-54kg
England > Zahrah Memon (Singto Gym) – Gold
Ireland > Kate Healy (Ireland Gym) – Silver

-60kg
Ireland > Siobhan Foley (Ireland Gym) – Gold
England > Sophia Mahroo (Singto Gym) – Silver

-63.5kg
Wales > Tanya Merrett (Eagles Gym) – Gold
Scotland > Sophie Gallagher (SMTC) – Silver

-71kg
Scotland > Nicole McKenna (SMTC) – Gold

-75kg
Ireland > Denise O’Connell (Ireland Gym) - Gold

Cadet Girls Division

-51kg
England > Leno Hardman (Super Gym) – Gold

-57kg
England > Vicky Booth (Singto Gym) – Gold

Cadet Boys Division

-51kg
England > Bart Tweed (PMT Gym) – Gold

-54kg
England > Terry Harris (Minotaurs Gym) – Gold

-60kg
Ireland > Jamie Mason (Republic Ireland Gym) – Gold
Scotland > Nicki Murray (SMTC) – Silver

-81kg
England > Amari Deidrick (4th Dimension Gym) – Gold
England > Ollie Benopoulos (Lord Hell Gym) – Silver

Kids Boys Demo Division

-28kg
England > Sidney Corey (Semtex Gym) - Draw
Ireland > Che Scott (Ireland Gym) – Draw

Yours in Muaythai

Craig O'Flynn
Irish Muaythai Council