great course to have trained hunter

browning 12 bore

just recieved my cert an all the other day over the moon:D:D
great course to have under the belt as they say
http://www.nargc.ie/news-container/presentation-of-trained-hunter-city-and-guilds-certificates.aspx
was not there myself sadly missed photo op lol lol lol lol :rolleyes::rolleyes:
well worth it as down the line it is said that we can provide wild game meat to local butchers also farmers market

TriggerPL

browning 12 bore wrote: »

well worth it as down the line it is said that we can provide wild game meat to local butchers also farmers market

Sorry to burst your bubble but that will never happen , coming from a back round in butchering , and my family having 2 butchers shops , while also sourcing and killing there own sheep and heifers . It is getting worse and worse the reg you have to go true to kill your own animals . Vet sees them before there killed and stamps them after . If they had there way you be buying all from the factory's .

There no way they will let animals shot with a rifle not properly bled , or inspected to be sold over the counter .

All that course is , is another way to charge you for nothing yes you have a cert and you can shoot coilte land .

But it the same as the safety course that they have , I done it and got my licence , my two brothers didn't and they got there licence too ! So why bother .

I do believe that everyone with a deer licence will be forced to do it soon enough or you won't get your licence .

browning 12 bore

sorry lad just have to say im sure you are correct over the butcher department and your family fare play to you but as i am already supplying to a buthcher with some rabbit, he went and got the cert in for selling wild game meat as well as other meat beef and pork anything you want and i have my cert what to look for in disease and making sure there bled correctly that what this course is all bout i even have dvd to show you everything what to do as well how to handle your important carcases the very same way they do it in a factory,
in relation to that coilte land is deadly wrong that is the hcap course i still cant shoot on coilte land until i do that hcap course but all my lands is private so do not need it and down the road every one will have do this course cause less wasit going to the dealer im certified now just to bring the bear carcase to the game handler, but any signs of disease ive the bring the head and heart and lungs to get inspected
hope this answers your doubts

TriggerPL

browning 12 bore wrote: »

sorry lad just have to say im sure you are correct over the butcher department and your family fare play to you but as i am already supplying to a buthcher with some rabbit, he went and got the cert in for selling wild game meat as well as other meat beef and pork anything you want and i have my cert what to look for in disease and making sure there bled correctly that what this course is all bout i even have dvd to show you everything what to do as well how to handle your important carcases the very same way they do it in a factory,
in relation to that coilte land is deadly wrong that is the hcap course i still cant shoot on coilte land until i do that hcap course but all my lands is private so do not need it and down the road every one will have do this course cause less wasit going to the dealer im certified now just to bring the bear carcase to the game handler, but any signs of disease ive the bring the head and heart and lungs to get inspected
hope this answers your doubts

i thought this was the course you were on about , wasnt aware there was another one and i didnt open you link cause i was on my i phone . must chat the family about cert to sell wild meat , i dont butcher my self so there might be an opening for the deer i intend to shoot this year .

TriggerPL

just for my own interest i put in a call to dept of agri and food , asking for information on the above subject of selling game to local butchers.

" A local butchers can applie for a permit to buy game from a registered game dealers like the one in wicklow " A hunter can not sell straight to the butcher as this meat has to be inspected buy a dept vet before sale to the public .

If a butchers was found to sell wild game " rabbit , deers , pheasent etc " without cert and proof of purchase his premises would be closed until fully inspected , and would be liable for a fine .

so yes a butcher can sell game but the general public cant land to his door selling it .

rang nargc as well and was told that its a meat handling course , for anyone thinking about getting a game dealers licence .


EC 853 of 2004
EC 854 of 2004

doctor evil

Is the course expensive?

browning 12 bore

yes there is another course meat handling course how buthcher the meat but the course ive done was done by a vet so we were told what to look out for and if any doubt bring the head an all in with you
also in the uk hunters can bring food to buthcher once its ok and here once a buthcher has a wild game cert and i have a game cert i can sell to them thats all i was told
and the price there doctor

is 340 euro not including manual 35 for that

blackstairsboy

browning 12 bore wrote: »

sorry lad just have to say im sure you are correct over the butcher department and your family fare play to you but as i am already supplying to a buthcher with some rabbit, he went and got the cert in for selling wild game meat as well as other meat beef and pork anything you want and i have my cert what to look for in disease and making sure there bled correctly that what this course is all bout i even have dvd to show you everything what to do as well how to handle your important carcases the very same way they do it in a factory,
in relation to that coilte land is deadly wrong that is the hcap course i still cant shoot on coilte land until i do that hcap course but all my lands is private so do not need it and down the road every one will have do this course cause less wasit going to the dealer im certified now just to bring the bear carcase to the game handler, but any signs of disease ive the bring the head and heart and lungs to get inspected
hope this answers your doubts

Out of interest are they grizzlies or polars! :P

TriggerPL

browning 12 bore wrote: »

yes there is another course meat handling course how buthcher the meat but the course ive done was done by a vet so we were told what to look out for and if any doubt bring the head an all in with you
also in the uk hunters can bring food to buthcher once its ok and here once a buthcher has a wild game cert and i have a game cert i can sell to them thats all i was told
and the price there doctor

is 340 euro not including manual 35 for that

That the same course so you need to check again . It done in gorey it factory .

Laws in the uk are not the same here . The reason you not allowed here is, what's to stop you bringing a deer with tb into a butcher and saying it was perfect . Nothing! And that why it against the law with out a dealers licence

browning 12 bore

very good there lad well spotted lol lol lol

browning 12 bore

TriggerPL wrote: »

That the same course so you need to check again . It done in gorey it factory .

Laws in the uk are not the same here . The reason you not allowed here is, what's to stop you bringing a deer with tb into a butcher and saying it was perfect . Nothing! And that why it against the law with out a dealers licence

no not the same course meat handling course is how you cut open and butcher a carcase and this course is for a trained hunter course looking for disaese an so on as i have already stated

now in relation to your tb quate your deadly right but i being a trained hunter can not let that happen as we can be placed nicely into jail as i was warned hence the intense course as i have already stated

sorry fella you can ring who you want bout this nargc, agri food, and anyone else you wish to ring but i did not do the course for the good of my health and i know every part of the anatemy of the wild game meat to bring wild meat to a butcher that has the wild game cert to sell them to the puplic
very sorry fella if this is going around in circle its just that this is all i was told in the course by a vetinarian and i did it through the nargc so i dont know any more than that

garv123

So basically with this 375 euro you can sell to the game dealer without the heart/lungs to be inspected by a vet? Your butcher has a cert for wild game which is basically a game dealer.

You must be bringing a lot of deer to him for it to be worth while paying 375 euro.

browning 12 bore

thats exactly it there lad no head no heart and lungs no more waist as they say and no i dont get a lot there what ever you mean by that there lad im just a small time hunter but this course is the way to go down the road also if a local farmer wants some venison at least with this course you know now that you wount be poisoning him cause you will be able to tell if the deer is ok for humane comsumtion,
it will also be compulsary across the board eventually so then yous must be all saying your bringing a lot of deer to the game dealer. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:

sako trg

Just done that course .well worth while

garv123

Was speaking to a few lads who done this course and that deer carcases must still be inspected by a vet when given to the game dealer. The person can inspect the heart lungs and head and dont need to bring any of them with the carcase.
So you cant sell it to butchers with this course.

TriggerPL

garv123 wrote: »

Was speaking to a few lads who done this course and that deer carcases must still be inspected by a vet when given to the game dealer. The person can inspect the heart lungs and head and dont need to bring any of them with the carcase.
So you cant sell it to butchers with this course.

I've said this from the start there no way there going to let you sell straight to butchers ,

Health and safety would not allow it . Why inspect cattle and sheep that raised on a farm , and then let any Tom dick or Harry . Sell wild game to a butcher