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Won't pay tax. Had enough.

  • 12-04-2012 3:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.


    The poll on teh Journal says loads of people are in favour of his protest. How about it?

    Is he right not to pay tax 101 votes

    yes
    0% 0 votes
    no
    37% 38 votes
    I don't care
    62% 63 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.


    The poll on teh Journal says loads of people are in favour of his protest. How about it?

    But you can rest assured they'll still be paying their taxes, though.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    yes, thats it dont pay tax and services will improve



    this man for president!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Great, so the rest of us have to pay for the cost of punishing him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    I hope the moral high ground comforts him in jail

    Typical post celtic tiger, government took my toys BS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    This is man who specialises in asset and investment management.

    The exact kind of people who fncked up the economy in the first place.

    The ironing.

    Shut up and pay your taxes you muppet. You of all people should be bending over and taking one for the country.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Ah the Matuschka's of Wicklow

    Grand family, I know them well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Yeah, lets all do this!

    Wait, what's that you say? Greeks did that and look where it got them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭wrmwit


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.


    The poll on teh Journal says loads of people are in favour of his protest. How about it?

    It's easy for people sitting behind a computer to answer a poll saying that they're in favour of a protest but when it comes to actually protesting, most of them are no where to be seen. It usually turns out to be a couple of hundred people who will get a 5 minute slot on Liveline! We're useless at protesting here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Gingernuts31


    Thats it this man is on the ball. I won't pay my taxs because im not happy with bankers and developers not being jailed. We all are p!ssed off at that but we don't stop paying taxes which is a legal requirement once you are employed and this idiot is self employed. Maybe when people start giving him grief and snubbing him for letting the burden of his actions fall on others like the bankers have he will cop on. He is what I would call a total and utter tool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.

    He's unhappy with services, how does he expect them to improve if no one pays tax?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    He can protest all he likes when he's sent to prison for not paying his taxes. Eejit. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Fair play to him courageous move but as the garlic man found out you dont mess with the corrupt Irish State

    Expect massive retribution from the Revenue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Oh yeah and I think I'll stop paying for my fare on the luas because of the appalling public transport service we have here not because it actually suits me not to pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Nobody messes with Big Phil Hogan :eek:

    There is going to be an example set to warn others


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    "I’m serious about this. I’ve had enough. In September 2008 I cut my own salary by 25% and since then I have endured an increased tax burden of €5,000-€10,000 a year and had reduction in benefits through cuts in children’s allowance and deductions for medical expenses. Meanwhile my taxes are being used to support people drinking wine in Marbella."

    Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html#ixzz1rq7niMaj


    You wonder why the country went broke in front of everyone's eyes ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭zac8


    Just what this country needs - another leech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    What a twat. Objecting to particular taxes is one thing, but deciding not to pay any - hypocrisy overload.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    He's in the wrong country: he should emigrate to the USA and join the TEA Party. That's not Tea, as in the stuff that got dumped overboard in Boston, but TEA as in "Taxed Enough Already".

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭suitseir


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.


    The poll on teh Journal says loads of people are in favour of his protest. How about it?


    Not much good to the PAYE worker!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    He drives a van. Some of the responses here are mad IMO. Plenty of folks pay little or no tax in the state and are encouraged to do so.

    If the man in the van won't pay tax, the 'ploticians' mates won't pay their debts and every second person entitled to work is on the dole. What do we do???

    Any protest is good protest at this stage.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Who encourages people not to pay taxes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Dudess wrote: »
    Who encourages people not to pay taxes?

    To be fair, accountants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ive-had-enough-im-not-paying-my-taxes-116246.html



    Some self employed man refuses to make a tax retun this year because of the state the country is in. Unhappy with services and unwilling to pay banking debts he says enough with paying tax.


    The poll on teh Journal says loads of people are in favour of his protest. How about it?

    Fair enough, boycott taxes, but I'd bet that he'd be the first person to whinge and moan when his local Council anounces they can no longer provide certain services due to a massive shortfall in funding because of people like him boycotting charges/taxes.

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    wrmwit wrote: »
    It's easy for people sitting behind a computer to answer a poll saying that they're in favour of a protest but when it comes to actually protesting, most of them are no where to be seen. It usually turns out to be a couple of hundred people who will get a 5 minute slot on Liveline! We're useless at protesting here.

    Half the country, including me, are not paying the household charge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    He drives a van. Some of the responses here are mad IMO. Plenty of folks pay little or no tax in the state and are encouraged to do so.

    If the man in the van won't pay tax, the 'ploticians' mates won't pay their debts and every second person entitled to work is on the dole. What do we do???

    Any protest is good protest at this stage.

    This entire post reads like the transcript of a call to Joe Duffy. I fail to see how this gimp's refusal to pay tax benefits the rest of us.

    The vast majority of citizens pay their income tax - PAYE Workers have no choice and if you are self employed you have to, otherwise you will get walloped with additional fees by Revenue.

    The vauge guff about 'ploticians' mates, makes no sense at all.

    Every second person is on the dole you say? Unemployment is at 14.3% not 50%.

    This attention seekers 'protest' is utterly pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    Refusing to pay tax will in no way impact the jailing or otherwise of rogue bankers and politicians.

    If anything, it will mean more cutbacks, including into the investigation of said rogue persons. Already 3 senior officers in the Anglo Irish Bank investigation were let go due to Croke Park agreement related cuts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Half the country, including me, are not paying the household charge.
    And there are good reasons for protesting that tax, but a boycott on all is just unreasonable and bereft of thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    This entire post reads like the transcript of a call to Joe Duffy. I fail to see how this gimp's refusal to pay tax benefits the rest of us.

    The vast majority of citizens pay their income tax - PAYE Workers have no choice and if you are self employed you have to, otherwise you will get walloped with additional fees by Revenue.

    The vauge guff about 'ploticians' mates, makes no sense at all.

    Every second person is on the dole you say? Unemployment is at 14.3% not 50%.

    This attention seekers 'protest' is utterly pointless.

    HE HAS A VAN!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭ThinkAboutIt


    If he's not happy then why doesn't he just get on a plane and pay his taxes somewhere else.
    Typical really, just sit around doing nothing to help the situation were in while moaning his hairy arse off.
    Clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Pharaoh1


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    He's unhappy with services, how does he expect them to improve if no one pays tax?


    Our government has made a conscious decision that it will continue to deliberately squander much of the tax that is already receives.

    Just a couple of small examples I could give loads.
    Government has decided to continue to grossly overpay a large portion of its own employees especially those at the top levels. I think that by any reasonable comparison/benchmark this is generally accepted.
    It doesn't have to continue to do this but it has chosen to do so.

    I spoke to someone recently who had three entirely seperate means tests first for Jobseekers Allowance, then for a Medical Card and then another for Mortgage Interest Supplement.
    This doesn't just happen by accident it is a deliberate policy to make sure that three people/organisations do the work of one so that money and resources can be purposely wasted (of course there are beneficiaries of this waste)

    Like the bully who demands your lunch money and keeps coming back, if we continue to hand over more and more taxes we are only encouraging continued waste and overspending and by extension poorer services.


    I of course understand that I have to pay taxes for essential services but I think that we are getting to the stage where people will be more reluctant to hand over more and more tax when they can clearly see that there is no serious attempt being made to address scandalous waste and overspending.
    I also understand that things will never be perfect and there will always be an element of inefficiency and waste in any system but we are light years away from where we need to be given our bankrupt state.

    So I can understand this guy's point of view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Philipp has oversight of asset management, financial management and compliance responsibilities.

    http://www.augusta.ie/directors

    Riiiight

    Also, has anyone pointed out that the article is two years old?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Also, has anyone pointed out that the article is two years old?
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

    Balls.

    My apologies to Phillipp so. I'm sure he has returned to paying his taxes since that government were ousted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    Pharaoh1 wrote: »
    Our government has made a conscious decision that it will continue to deliberately squander much of the tax that is already receives.

    Just a couple of small examples I could give loads.
    Government has decided to continue to grossly overpay a large portion of its own employees especially those at the top levels. I think that by any reasonable comparison/benchmark this is generally accepted.
    It doesn't have to continue to do this but it has chosen to do so.

    I spoke to someone recently who had three entirely seperate means tests first for Jobseekers Allowance, then for a Medical Card and then another for Mortgage Interest Supplement.
    This doesn't just happen by accident it is a deliberate policy to make sure that three people/organisations do the work of one so that money and resources can be purposely wasted (of course there are beneficiaries of this waste)

    Like the bully who demands your lunch money and keeps coming back, if we continue to hand over more and more taxes we are only encouraging continued waste and overspending and by extension poorer services.


    I of course understand that I have to pay taxes for essential services but I think that we are getting to the stage where people will be more reluctant to hand over more and more tax when they can clearly see that there is no serious attempt being made to address scandalous waste and overspending.
    I also understand that things will never be perfect and there will always be an element of inefficiency and waste in any system but we are light years away from where we need to be given our bankrupt state.

    So I can understand this guy's point of view.

    I wouldn't disagree with a lot of your post. I'd say we're all well aware of just how inefficent large sections of the public/civil sevice are. I'd happily get rid of 10% of them and 80% of our idiot local councillors.

    However, the way I see it, income tax is the most justifiable of all taxes. I just don't see how a refusal to pay income tax benefits anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    Em does nobody realise that this article and situation is well over 2 years old? The man himself even commented in a thread on this very subject over in P.ie:

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/127160-tax-strike-until-government-idiots-idiots-resigns.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭oddman2


    Em does nobody realise that this article and situation is well over 2 years old? The man himself even commented in a thread on this very subject over in P.ie:

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/127160-tax-strike-until-government-idiots-idiots-resigns.html

    The date was the first thing I noticed about the article, how did no-one see that until now?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    http://www.augusta.ie/directors

    Riiiight

    Also, has anyone pointed out that the article is two years old?

    does anyone else think he looks like Enda Kenny?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    Not only does this guy deserve jail time for tax evasion, he clearly deserves jail time for idiocy.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This post has been deleted.

    This being AH, I had searched for the Kent Brockman quote where he says "I don't say evasion, I say avoision". But I couldn't find it. But this should cover the point I was trying to make.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Not only is he an idiot but he's publicly advertising the fact to the Revenue, smart move.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Em does nobody realise that this article and situation is well over 2 years old? The man himself even commented in a thread on this very subject over in P.ie:

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/127160-tax-strike-until-government-idiots-idiots-resigns.html

    Headlines in the journal and covered on two radio stations today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    johngalway wrote: »
    Not only is he an idiot but he's publicly advertising the fact to the Revenue, smart move.

    He's not doing it to cheat on his taxes.
    He's doing it to make a public and political statement.

    He might be an idiot - but I have more respect for him than the guy next to him who just cheats on his taxes hoping to get away with it.


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