Why are people never honest...?

Izymunz

Why are people never honest about the amount of study they do?
It is really annoying hearing people moaning and crying about how they are going to fail a test when in actual fact they studied all night for it!!
Grrr...
It just makes me so angry!
Is it just me who experiences this? :P
As a side note how many hours are you putting in for the leaving cert?
Thanks..

Josh93

Yes! All the time! I've also seen people do the opposite - say they were studying all night and then fail miserably!

Personally, when it comes to study time I'm doing what I can - I got 480 in the mocks and that's more than what I need, so I'm trying to stop complacency but I have to admit I'm not studying a lot this week. Last week I put in 6-7 hour days, but this week I'm having Irish classes in school in preparation for the oral so really I'm down to about 2-3 hours per day this week

Slow Show

Izymunz wrote: »

As a side note how many hours are you putting in for the leaving cert?

Seventeen, give or take. I'm only in 5th year now though, gonna have to crank it up next year obviously.

Canard

I just do what I need, I dont time myself. But in all honesty I always feel like I might fail - I usually tend to not know things but they dont come up anyway so its all good

Izymunz

That fifth year thing has to be some cruel joke, right?

jumpguy

Izymunz wrote: »

That fifth year thing has to be some cruel joke, right?

No she really studies 17 minutes.

Izymunz

jumpguy wrote: »

No she really studies 17 minutes.

I wish I could understand sarcasm...

dambarude

Study what you think you need to study yourself, and don't bother with anybody else. A bit of healthy competition can be good in some domains, but not when it comes near the LC.

finality

It's not cool to study.

jumpguy

dambarude wrote: »

Study what you think you need to study yourself, and don't bother with anybody else. A bit of healthy competition can be good in some domains, but not when it comes near the LC.

When it comes to academic competition, let the other person's grades do the talkin', not them telling you they did 100 hours last night.

In my Leaving Cert, there was always a kinda unspoken academic competitiveness with some other people in my class, but nothing serious - we'd all help each other out. I quite enjoyed it!

GaryIrv93

I never want to hear the word 'study' again in my life,once I get this LC over with. The feeling just walking out of the last exam must be one of the world's best. Seriously can't for it all to be over - the stress is just going to lift like a curtain...

Coeurdepirate

Izymunz wrote: »

I wish I could understand sarcasm...

Sheldon?

guitarzero

Izymunz wrote: »

Why are people never honest...?

Why are people never honest about the amount of study they do?
It is really annoying hearing people moaning and crying about how they are going to fail a test when in actual fact they studied all night for it!!
Grrr...
It just makes me so angry!
Is it just me who experiences this? :P
As a side note how many hours are you putting in for the leaving cert?
Thanks..

Well, this is one of the most misleading titles to a thread I've seen in a long time, perhaps you'd care to take the lead on this 'dishonesty' dilemma.

PictureFrame

Izymunz wrote: »

Why are people never honest about the amount of study they do?
It is really annoying hearing people moaning and crying about how they are going to fail a test when in actual fact they studied all night for it!!
Grrr...
It just makes me so angry!
Is it just me who experiences this? :P
As a side note how many hours are you putting in for the leaving cert?
Thanks..

I actually don't understand why this irritates you? What difference does it make how much/little other people study? All that matters is that you do the study you need to do to achieve what you want. Some people after sitting a test can be completely unaware as to how they have done in that said test. I know after doing my Business & Economics mock I was sure I had scraped B3's maybe C1's. Results came back and I got an A1 (94) and an A2 (87). That's why some people in my opinion, 'moan and cry about failing a test'. Some people worry. The Leaving Cert. can be a source of extreme worry for some people. I know I studied for my Economics Mock from 5.00-9.00 the night before, woke up at 4am and studied until 9.55am. I got an A2. When I came into School that morning, my Friends asked me was I ok because I looked very nervous, I was convinced I would fail.

Everyone's different, I would imagine some people exaggerate, that's life, deal with it.

spurious

If I am literate, motivated, have mostly paid attention in class and kept up with my homeworks and hear someone talking about 'studying' six hours a day, then quite honestly I could say that compared to them, I am doing 'nothing'.

It's not lying, it's more a perception of what I am doing, or not doing, compared to others.

I sincerely doubt anyone is doing 6 hours of productive study a day either, it's just not possible to maintain concentration that long after a day at school.

Izymunz

PictureFrame wrote: »

I actually don't understand why this irritates you? What difference does it make how much/little other people study? All that matters is that you do the study you need to do to achieve what you want. Some people after sitting a test can be completely unaware as to how they have done in that said test. I know after doing my Business & Economics mock I was sure I had scraped B3's maybe C1's. Results came back and I got an A1 (94) and an A2 (87). That's why some people in my opinion, 'moan and cry about failing a test'. Some people worry. The Leaving Cert. can be a source of extreme worry for some people. I know I studied for my Business Mock from 5.00-9.00 the night before, woke up at 4am and studied until 9.55am. I got an A2. When I came into School that morning, my Friends asked me was I ok because I looked very nervous, I was convinced I would fail.

Everyone's different, I would imagine some people exaggerate, that's life, deal with it.

The exact same thing happened to me! Lol (I mean with the economics and business) an A1 and an A2 with roughly the same amount as you!
I am "dealing with it". I would just prefer if people were honest about the amount of study they do. For example a person I know always moans about not having the will to study and that she is going to fail ...etc. but I got talking to her parents and they were so worried about her because they thought she was studying too much!!

Namlub

And if the same person was going on about how they were definitely going to do well because of all the study they did, people would be calling them cocky.
Don't get bogged down in other people's business, it's not going to affect your own grades.

Izymunz

Namlub wrote: »

And if the same person was going on about how they were definitely going to do well because of all the study they did, people would be calling them cocky.
Don't get bogged down in other people's business, it's not going to affect your own grades.

That is not what I mean!
I just want the person beside me to be honest in the amount of work they do.

Also, with regards to the person in my example, I do not want a rant about the amount of study they did! I would just prefer if people did not cry about how they are "going to fail" when they are clearly not going to!!
That isn't too much to ask is it?

Bears and Vodka

Izymunz wrote: »

That is not what I mean!
I just want the person beside me to be honest in the amount of work they do.

Also, with regards to the person in my example, I do not want a rant about the amount of study they did! I would just prefer if people did not cry about how they are "going to fail" when they are clearly not going to!!
That isn't too much to ask is it?

Why do you care?

End of.

leaveiton

I get where the OP is coming from. It's easy to say to just mind your own business, but in my experience it's not that easy when you're actually in school. For example, I have one friend who constantly worries about tests even though she's fecking brilliant. If she doesn't come out of the exam thinking she got an A1, she'll say "Oh that was horrible, I did so badly", even if she ended up still doing really well. I can be like that too, it is difficult to judge how you did sometimes. But this friend constantly does this, for every test, saying "Oh I know nothing it'll be a disaster!" and then coming out with an A1 anyway. It can get a bit tiresome listening to her all the time (and I can't exactly just ignore her when she's talking to me directly :P), and she's not the only one I know that does it either. I don't let it affect my own study or my own grades, but it is definitely irritating after a while.

reznov

I lie because it throws the competition off, increasing their chances of failure, lulling them into a sense of comfort.

Superbus

reznov wrote: »

I lie because it throws the competition off, increasing their chances of failure, lulling them into a sense of comfort.

Izymunz

leaveiton wrote: »

I get where the OP is coming from. It's easy to say to just mind your own business, but in my experience it's not that easy when you're actually in school. For example, I have one friend who constantly worries about tests even though she's fecking brilliant. If she doesn't come out of the exam thinking she got an A1, she'll say "Oh that was horrible, I did so badly", even if she ended up still doing really well. I can be like that too, it is difficult to judge how you did sometimes. But this friend constantly does this, for every test, saying "Oh I know nothing it'll be a disaster!" and then coming out with an A1 anyway. It can get a bit tiresome listening to her all the time (and I can't exactly just ignore her when she's talking to me directly :P), and she's not the only one I know that does it either. I don't let it affect my own study or my own grades, but it is definitely irritating after a while.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!
That is exactly my problem!

Some people on boards are really aggressive!

leaveiton

Izymunz wrote: »

Thank you!!!!!!!!!
That is exactly my problem!

Some people on boards are really aggressive!

Don't worry, I understand

silversky

Izymunz wrote: »

Thank you!!!!!!!!!
That is exactly my problem!

Some people on boards are really aggressive!

Ha, they won't thank you for that!

I get where you're coming from to a certain extent. People do say they didn't do a tap of study and that they're going to fail and then they come out with an A. Sometimes it is a complete fluke other times what they said was a blatant lie- it's just something you have to get used to. You will find that with LC candidates/ students- that competition will always exist. And it can be annoying, but at the end of the day it's your results that count. Don't listen to other people's lies just put your head down and worry about your own work.

reznov

Those who don't do a tap of study are the ones who'll be obtaining 625 in the LC, 300 in the HPAT, and of course a 500k per annul job. Don't be mislead by your friends who cram for exams. You'll be laughing eventually. Mercilessly laughing at their black, baggy eyes, the facial expression of a miner who's lungs are sooty. Fact is, whether you get 625 in the LC or not was engraved into your soul the second you were delivered in that hospital ward. The government continually tells fables of exam reform and how the LC is nothing more but an insignificant regurgitation session, but the SEC possesses voodoo magic beyond any mortal's comprehension. Their vile tactics have maintained a steady bell curve for decades.

My comrade, quit studying today.
This is not a conspiracy theory.

Izymunz

:O

David1994

reznov wrote: »

Those who don't do a tap of study are the ones who'll be obtaining 625 in the LC, 300 in the HPAT, and of course a 500k per annul job. Don't be mislead by your friends who cram for exams. You'll be laughing eventually. Mercilessly laughing at their black, baggy eyes, the facial expression of a miner who's lungs are sooty. Fact is, whether you get 625 in the LC or not was engraved into your soul the second you were delivered in that hospital ward. The government continually tells fables of exam reform and how the LC is nothing more but an insignificant regurgitation session, but the SEC possesses voodoo magic beyond any mortal's comprehension. Their vile tactics have maintained a steady bell curve for decades.

My comrade, quit studying today.
This is not a conspiracy theory.

I love this guy.

Izymunz

David1994 wrote: »

I love this guy.

I am glad that you do!!!!!

David1994

Though OP I only read this thread now and I know how you feel with people going on and on about how they did TERRIBLE and then they get the highest on the class as Usual. It just doesnt help with anything tbh

ChemHickey

What annoys me is when you get good grades/marks in your exams and people instantly think you are "bateing the books", and you only did a bit of study and do well.
It's not about the amount of study you do, it's your capacity to retain it. I don't study as much as people think, my parents think I'm doing too much and I think I'm only working at about 50% activity level(good aul flexible budgeting) but I have a good memory (that's what I think is the reason!). i don't do 3 or 4 hours a day 7 days a week!I do study before a test but what is more annoying to me are people who are annoyed when you tell them you're not studying as much as they think and they don't believe you.
Can you not accept that it's not about the amount of study you do, it's your overall work ethic and how you worked over the two years. Study ain't everything mes potes.

Just Like Heaven

This thread is the pits.

reznov

ChemHickey wrote: »

What annoys me is when you get good grades/marks in your exams and people instantly think you are "bateing the books", and you only did a bit of study and do well.
It's not about the amount of study you do, it's your capacity to retain it. I don't study as much as people think, my parents think I'm doing too much and I think I'm only working at about 50% activity level(good aul flexible budgeting) but I have a good memory (that's what I think is the reason!). i don't do 3 or 4 hours a day 7 days a week!I do study before a test but what is more annoying to me are people who are annoyed when you tell them you're not studying as much as they think and they don't believe you.
Can you not accept that it's not about the amount of study you do, it's your overall work ethic and how you worked over the two years. Study ain't everything mes potes.

SHE'S A HERETIC.
BURN THE WITCH.

Cruel Sun

I know what you mean, it's really annoying. People coming out of the mocks with 500 points after doing "no study" at all.

What's even more annoying is the "Oh my god, I've failed that so badly" and then a few days later "Oh got 96 percent, how did that happen, it's not as if I've been studying every day for 6 hours since first year"

Coeurdepirate

I'm kind of the opposite. I tell my parents I'm doing like 25 hours study a day but I'm actually doing nothing. Every time they come into my room during the day I'm "just taking a 10 minute break on the laptop".

finality

Martin_94 wrote: »

I know what you mean, it's really annoying. People coming out of the mocks with 500 points after doing "no study" at all.
"

It's also annoying when you're one of those people who genuinely do this and people assume you're lying. :P

Canard

finality = female version of cian :pac:

ConTheCat

I'm the type of person who walks into school bragging that I've studied! Hate the people oh I did so bad and the get 100%...My best friend is a prime example!!

Josh93

ChemHickey wrote: »

What annoys me is when you get good grades/marks in your exams and people instantly think you are "bateing the books", and you only did a bit of study and do well.
It's not about the amount of study you do, it's your capacity to retain it. I don't study as much as people think, my parents think I'm doing too much and I think I'm only working at about 50% activity level(good aul flexible budgeting) but I have a good memory (that's what I think is the reason!). i don't do 3 or 4 hours a day 7 days a week!I do study before a test but what is more annoying to me are people who are annoyed when you tell them you're not studying as much as they think and they don't believe you.
Can you not accept that it's not about the amount of study you do, it's your overall work ethic and how you worked over the two years. Study ain't everything mes potes.

Spot on. The Leaving Cert is essentially a memory test - so it's not how much you do, it's how much effort you put in - and there's a massive difference.

K_1

reznov wrote: »

Those who don't do a tap of study are the ones who'll be obtaining 625 in the LC, 300 in the HPAT, and of course a 500k per annul job. Don't be mislead by your friends who cram for exams. You'll be laughing eventually. Mercilessly laughing at their black, baggy eyes, the facial expression of a miner who's lungs are sooty. Fact is, whether you get 625 in the LC or not was engraved into your soul the second you were delivered in that hospital ward. The government continually tells fables of exam reform and how the LC is nothing more but an insignificant regurgitation session, but the SEC possesses voodoo magic beyond any mortal's comprehension. Their vile tactics have maintained a steady bell curve for decades.

My comrade, quit studying today.
This is not a conspiracy theory.

This. The bane of our lives.
Its the ultimate Catch 22 - Joseph Heller couldn't have written it. There's no way to avoid their warped system - we can all not do a tap and we'll get the same results, or we can study our asses off, it doesn't make a difference - all thanks to the fúcking bell curve.

:mad:

xSpacey

I can't be the only one who puts off study "for another hour" until its like 2am then have to sleep EVERY DAY of the week right... i'd say I've put in less than 10 hours study in my whole life... im so screwed for my orals on tuesday and even more screwed for the actual exams... =/

Stalin and rugby

This thread is seriously entertaining. Keep it going peeps. Some seriously witty stuff