Dispute Resolution

ISAW

Just to make others aware of atheistic agendas
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056600003

Declan Lander

Ha Ha, you're screwed. Good.

Now all we have to do is get rid of you from this forum as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

MrStuffins

Atheistic agenda?

Lol! Conspiracy Theory forum is that way dude!

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gkell3

ISAW wrote: »

Just to make others aware of atheistic agendas
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056600003

Raising the standard of discussion will always put you at a disadvantage as a Christian and especially in a moderated forum.If it is any consolation,few would understand Augustine's comment while a genuine Christian would -

"If' anyone shall set the authority of Holy Writ against clear and
manifest reason, he who does this knows not what he has undertaken;
for he opposes to the truth not the meaning of the Bible, which is
beyond his comprehension, but rather his own interpretation, not what
is in the Bible, but what he has found in himself and imagines to be
there." Augustine

The unbelievers are fine as they take the broadest possible view and no wonder they reject Christian things,the real problems are those who bend the Bible to a mirror of themselves and their limiting view of the world and God.

philologos

Unbelievers take the "broadest point of view" how exactly? That sounds like nonsense to me.

gkell3

philologos wrote: »

Unbelievers take the "broadest point of view" how exactly? That sounds like nonsense to me.

There is a lovely gentleness today that wasn't there when I went to Church in my youth,a willingness to adapt to the wider view of Christianity above and beyond the older style of punishment and reward.I came back to the Church by accepting that all Christians understand Infinite things at their own level so as long as they sensed something greater than themselves,it doesn't really matter how it presents itself to the mind and imagination.

As for the 'broadest possible view',William Blake put his finger on it and roughly in the way I perceive it.It is not so distant from the parables of Jesus and that creative side of Christianity always had an eye for the pragmatic as well as the artistic that the unbeliever just doesn't get -

"The ancient Poets animated all sensible objects with Gods or Geniuses, calling them by the names and adorning them with the properties of woods, rivers, mountains, lakes, cities, nations, and whatever their enlarged & numerous senses could perceive.
And particularly they studied the genius of each city & country, placing it under its mental deity.
Till a system was formed, which some took advantage of & enslav'd the vulgar by attempting to realize or abstract the mental deities from their objects; thus began Priesthood.

Choosing forms of worship from poetic tales.
And a length they pronounc'd that the Gods had order'd such things.
Thus men forgot that All deities reside in the human breast."
William Blake

The greatest obstacle for unbelievers is actually Christian believers acting to limit Christ and Christianity as a mirror of themselves -

"Like all poetical natures he loved ignorant people. He knew that in
the soul of one who is ignorant there is always room for a great
idea. But he could not stand stupid people, especially those who
are made stupid by education: people who are full of opinions not
one of which they even understand, a peculiarly modern type,
summed up by Christ when he describes it as the type of one who
has the key of knowledge, cannot use it himself, and does not allow
other people to use it, though it may be made to open the gate of God's Kingdom.." Oscar Wilde

Balancing Christianity as practiced by the individual with one practiced as a community is now easier than ever,priests are genuinely drawing more out of Christian texts than ever before while still keeping a community together by its practices and events.There is an element that will always be there that I do not care much for ,the 'con-substantial' element for no person talks like that,however going to Church is a lovely experience that I recommend to unbelievers or lapsed Christians who presently don't see the point.

philologos

I haven't seen much "gentleness" from new-atheists when they speak about this topic.

I'll ask you again, because you've not answered my question - How is atheism the broadest point of view at all?

dead one

As a third person, I admire behavior of christian to other people.... Where atheists, on the other hand, behave like arrogant monsters... The bunch of atheists think that they are doing a favor to atheism but in fact they are damaging their own cause with arrogance and ignorance.... JC,philologos, jimitime are pure example of good christianity... I admire their loyalty and devotion to Christianity... Where the atheist aren't even loyal to even atheism...

dead one

philologos wrote: »

- How is atheism the broadest point of view at all?

Dear philologos, he sees all views in mirror of atheism that's why atheism the broadest point of view.

Penn

ISAW wrote: »

Just to make others aware of atheistic agendas
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056600003

You weren't banned for questioning the statistic, you were banned because you were warned repeatedly to stop bringing the topic up in every other thread. You would not shut the f*ck up about it and had I been a mod of the forum, I would have banned you for it much earlier. Not because of the statistic, but a) trolling (posting in a manner purely to get a reaction out of someone), b) argumentative posting, c) detailing threads and d) ignoring mod warnings.

Atheistic agenda? No. You were just a dog with a bone and wouldn't shut up.

gkell3

philologos wrote: »

I haven't seen much "gentleness" from new-atheists when they speak about this topic.

I'll ask you again, because you've not answered my question - How is atheism the broadest point of view at all?

No offence,I thought I did answer it and in a spirit of openness.I don't consider atheists as being people who don't see things to my way of thinking as a Christian nor the Bible as a battleground for belief or non belief.I would say that many unbelievers choose to be that way due to the limiting ideas many Christians have about Christ and Christianity but there are many also who choose to believe that Christians lack common sense and in some cases they are right.

Plowman

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