200bhp+ car 20k

J77

Hi all,

Might be in a position to change car at the end of the year if things go very well. Would like 200bhp+ and preferably audi/bmw/merc. budget would be about 20k max. Also considering a mark vi GTI if could get a 5 door for 20k with leather at the end of the year.

Dream would be a mercedes C250 CDI sport but there appear to be almost none in ireland so would have to be UK and they only started making them in 2009 so would be very tight on budget - would it be possible to source one of these at the end of the year for 20k?

Thanks!

conzy

J77 wrote: »

Hi all,

Might be in a position to change car at the end of the year if things go very well. Would like 200bhp+ and preferably audi/bmw/merc. budget would be about 20k max. Also considering a mark vi GTI if could get a 5 door for 20k with leather at the end of the year.

Dream would be a mercedes C250 CDI sport but there appear to be almost none in ireland so would have to be UK and they only started making them in 2009 so would be very tight on budget - would it be possible to source one of these at the end of the year for 20k?

Thanks!

E90 325i Msport

You would get one of these well in budget with great spec, tax is quiet low for a 2.5/3.0 petrol too..

You could get a 330i for the extra grunt of you can find one. negligible difference in running costs.

330i or something like that? Far superior car to a Golf GTi.

Conzy got there before me, hard to beat a fanboy !! His link doesn't work though.

conzy

RoverJames wrote: »

330i or something like that? Far superior car to a Golf GTi.

Conzy got there before me, hard to beat a fanboy !!

Bazinga!

Jimbob 83

That car seems abit overpriced for a 2008, then again it is carzone

ShaneMc2012

This C250 is just under €20,000 (£16,250) but when you count in VRT and all other expenses it would probably be another €10,000 so you'd be looking at the €30,000 mark so it could be another 2 years until the car you want fits into your budget!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201214461287473/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/model/c_class/make/mercedes-benz/page/1/radius/1501/keywords/c250/postcode/bt39jp?logcode=p

J77

Would love just about any 6 cylinder bmw! Probably should have mentioned I'm in my early 20s so would get slammed on a 3 litre bmw for insurance not to mention fuel, although I know it's not exactly a M3! If I can keep tax band at D or less I'm not really bothered.

Yeah it's unfortunate they didn't start making the C250cdi earlier.

I hate to be the one to make this thread boring but It'll probably have to be a remapped c220cdi or a remapped 320d m sport! Still good cars I guess and hopefully I could get a 2009 within budget at the end of the year. Any opinion as to which is better?

KamiKazi

Grow some balls and get a litre bike instead

mazdamps

Mapped 320d or 220 cdi would be grand.

Around 200bhp and good torque, but why waste 20k on one of them if you want some power?

The likes of 06-08 Mazda 3 MPS, Megane RS, Astra OPC Focus ST, are easily available for under 10k and would eat those above diesel's for breakfast in a straight line and nearly all of them are armed with the tech like lsd, sports suspension, brakes etc.

They are mini peformance cars and with something tuning all are capable of 300bhp easy enough and in the Mazda 3 MPS's case well over 300bhp and 500nm torque.

Focus ST for under 8k.


http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=5713311192573800

NinjaK

Civic type R!

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NinjaK wrote: »

Civic type R!

OP would also have a good chunk of money left over!

challengemaster

If you don't care about age, E46 M3's popping up for €7k all the time, plenty of pocket money for running costs left too And they're still not a dated design

Pdfile

challengemaster wrote: »

If you don't care about age, E46 M3's popping up for €7k all the time, plenty of pocket money for running costs left too And they're still not a dated design

but finding a cleean one s harder then finding an honest bone in enda kenny...


OP, go for a 530d bmw, its a good lump, remapps well and with the whole M package.... you can't complain, it has everything... if not... their are alot of lexus's goingg for next to nothing... 3.0 liters, 200+ hp... they are a big car for little money but then again... their a little too good.

Neilw

conzymaher wrote: »

E90 325i Msport

You would get one of these well in budget with great spec, tax is quiet low for a 2.5/3.0 petrol too..

Hard to look past one of them, 3litre straight 6 and 481euro tax is good value.

NinjaK

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/Civic/fd2-type/201210207255943/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/Civic/FD2-TYPE/201203206642345/advert?channel=CARS

what a car!

rebel.ranter

You'll get a 6 Series for that money if it's a 6 cylinder BMW that you're after.

SE:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/6-Series/630-630I/201141204914991/advert?channel=CARS

Sport:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/6-Series/SPORTS-C/413216350151520/advert?channel=CARS

Johntegr

If I had 20k to spend on a car and I was looking for 200bhp +. Oh baby. I can't. This thread has too much potential.

Idbatterim

it is quite likely there will be big changes to the motortax system in the budget, if your waiting till end of year anyway, id wait and see what happens in the budget first. 325ci is good choice though, nice E92 m sport would be nice...

mazdamps

NinjaK wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/Civic/fd2-type/201210207255943/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/Civic/FD2-TYPE/201203206642345/advert?channel=CARS

what a car!

Now that's a car:):)

Don't see too many of them around




222bhp @ 8400rpm K20A engine

Proper chassis.

320mm brakes with Brembo callipers.

Class gearbox

Lightweight 1270kg.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/honda_civic_type-r_jdm_fd2.html

Give me that over a heavy common 325i/330i anyday.

Pdfile

mazdamps wrote: »

Now that's a car:):)

Don't see too many of them around

222bhp @ 8400rpm K20A engine

Proper chassis.

320mm brakes with Brembo callipers.

Class gearbox

Lightweight 1270kg.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/honda_civic_type-r_jdm_fd2.html

Give me that over a heavy common 325i/330i anyday.

a class car but a car theifs wet dream...

the beauty of a 3 serise is you remove the 330i badges, put 318/320 on it so folks think its got nothing special...

:pac:

mazdamps

Pdfile wrote: »

the beauty of a 3 serise is you remove the 330i badges, put 318/320 on it so folks think its got nothing special...

:pac:

It is nothing special

Pdfile

mazdamps wrote: »

It is nothing special

find some wet road and turn off thhe TCS and ABS ( providing you've the nuts/talent ) and well...


it'll sepperate the lads from the ladies. :pac:

MuppetCheck

mazdamps wrote: »

It is nothing special

Or someone who is a fan of a Mazda MPS is biased.

Pdfile

Pdfile wrote: »

a class car but a car theifs wet dream...

the beauty of a 3 serise is you remove the 330i badges, put 318/320 on it so folks think its got nothing special...

:pac:

There have been a one or two 320d stolen and reported on here.
A Saab 9 5 2.0t was used in a bank job in Cork a few months ago iirc

unkel

mazdamps wrote: »

Now that's a car:):)

Slower than a Ford Focus (from your links)

Whatever floats your boat though

mazdamps

unkel wrote: »

Slower than a Ford Focus (from your links)

Whatever floats your boat though

That's a 300bhp+ RS focus.

That's something special.

muckwarrior

231bhp, RWD, 4 door, cheap tax, superb handling, one of the rarest cars in the country

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3071488

tossy

muckwarrior wrote: »

231bhp, RWD, 4 door, cheap tax, superb handling, one of the rarest cars in the country

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3071488

It took ages for that Donedeal link to load,there was an imaginary drum roll going on in my head and then major disappointment :P

Johntegr

Pdfile wrote: »

a class car but a car theifs wet dream...

the beauty of a 3 serise is you remove the 330i badges, put 318/320 on it so folks think its got nothing special...

:pac:

I think there's maybe 3 or 4 of those FD2's in the country. Never heard of any being tried. Regularly here of 320 and 330 beemers being lifted though.

Pdfile

Johntegr wrote: »

I think there's maybe 3 or 4 of those FD2's in the country. Never heard of any being tried. Regularly here of 320 and 330 beemers being lifted though.

my neighbours 325i has been broken into countless times, but then again its only fr folks see the white cable froming from the face of the mp3 player, they don't bother even taking the car just pop the window looking for phones/ipods...

as for hondas annd such, mines in lock up for a long while due to it always getting the eyes from scumbags, namely when i go into shops or shopping centers andd i see them taking a nice oul peek inside the windows of it then asking me a million questons about it ( i.e is she b16, is she tuned etc etc )

all cars get attcked, but that civic listed has hondas best engine to date imho... so before even getting to drive it i'd have to invest in a Really good alarm/immob combo which breaks the budget, as for bmw's and the likes... theis too many around my way if 1 was to be stolen they all would...

ot: that rx8 is a lovely peiice of kit but surely the mantainace would be a little bit more then op would prefare ?

JimmyCrackCorn

If you can find a second hand one in the Uk
http://www.cbg.ie/newcars/BMW/1_Series/Coupe_07/125i_M_Sport.aspx


Nom Nom Nom.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

300+ bhp, economical (27-30 mpg), easily tuned, stylish, cheap.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335I-COU/613272635760310/advert?channel=CARS

280+ bho, economical, easily tuned, rare, cheap, 4 doors.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335d-M-S/201214207615119/advert?channel=CARS

GavMan

Merc CLS 320 CDI - 225bhp or there abouts

smash

M5 - make him an offer: http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M5/M5-NB92-/201214207577911/advert?channel=CARS

Marty McFly

Of all the ones mentioned so far it would certainly have to be the Civic or RX8 for me, but heres some that havent been mentioned yet

Lexus GS300, 245bhp

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/GS300/-EXECUTI/413272490211260/advert?channel=CARS

Or Lexus gs450h 340bhp

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/GS450H/HY-BRID-/4813305286316470/advert?channel=CARS

Lexus is350 very rare, if you dont mind bringing in from England

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3556239.htm


Or even a Lexus ISF if you can find one was one on carzone for a long time for in around the twenty grand mark but its gone now.

smash

Buy something different!

NSX - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/NSX/3.0-02DR/201152206336224/advert?channel=CARS

Chevrolet SSR - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Chevrolet/SSR/V8-Conve/6213331037930120/advert?channel=CARS

DB7 - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Aston-Martin/DB7/AUTO/613261898588190/advert?channel=CARS

Brera 3.2 - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/Brera/3.2-V6-Q/5613322472555150/advert?channel=CARS

TVR Tuscan - http://www.carzone.ie/search/TVR/Tuscan/SPORT-4./201211207293867/advert?channel=CARS

Big Nasty

^^^ That NSX was asking €35k last year.

RobAMerc

smash wrote: »

Buy something different!

NSX - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/NSX/3.0-02DR/201152206336224/advert?channel=CARS

Chevrolet SSR - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Chevrolet/SSR/V8-Conve/6213331037930120/advert?channel=CARS

DB7 - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Aston-Martin/DB7/AUTO/613261898588190/advert?channel=CARS

Brera 3.2 - http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/Brera/3.2-V6-Q/5613322472555150/advert?channel=CARS

TVR Tuscan - http://www.carzone.ie/search/TVR/Tuscan/SPORT-4./201211207293867/advert?channel=CARS

the Brera is a smashing car - but you'd have to be insane
A tuscan is a weekend car only, you couldn't use it daily ( for many reasons ) and the Aston would disintegrate if used daily too.

it is thinking outside the box though - some nice options ( for the slightly nuts );)

GavMan

RobAMerc wrote: »

the Brera is a smashing car - but you'd have to be insane

Why do you say that?

smash

RobAMerc wrote: »

the Brera is a smashing car - but you'd have to be insane

Na, the 3.2 is a great engine. oooh the noise!

RobAMerc wrote: »

A tuscan is a weekend car only, you couldn't use it daily ( for many reasons ) and the Aston would disintegrate if used daily too.

The Tuscan was used as a daily by it's previous owner. I only threw the Aston in for good measure, I wouldn't buy it myself.

RobAMerc

GavMan wrote: »

Why do you say that?

smash wrote: »

Na, the 3.2 is a great engine. oooh the noise!

I would love it myself - but you'd never get rid of it.
It's a post 2008 big engined car.
It's not a top of the range exec big engined car ( even that would loose big bucks fast )
It's a sports car but auto
it's in white
It's an Alfa
need I go on ?

smash wrote: »

The Tuscan was used as a daily by it's previous owner. I only threw the Aston in for good measure, I wouldn't buy it myself.

TVR are renowned for being seriously brittle - and having driven one for all of about 10 miles in slightly damp conditions I have to say whomever drove one daily must have big cahunas or be nuts ! ( I'd still would love a Tuscan though )

smash

RobAMerc wrote: »

... It's an Alfa ...

And that's why I'd get it

RobAMerc wrote: »

TVR are renowned for being seriously brittle - and having driven one for all of about 10 miles in slightly damp conditions I have to say whomever drove one daily must have big cahunas or be nuts ! ( I'd still would love a Tuscan though )

Yea I know. That particular Tuscan was well minded though and didn't cause trouble.

RobAMerc

smash wrote: »

And that's why I'd get it

just to be clear, "It's an Alfa" was part of my reasoning for you not being able to sell it. not why I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy it because you'd never sell it and I change too often to be months trying to flog it

CianRyan

Buy the NSX or the Tom's IS350!

Foxhole Norman

Porsche?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2828984

Heroditas

How about an A6 FSI V6?
255BHP and less than €18k!!

EDIT: the annual tax bill is a helluva stinger though! :eek:

voojeq

NinjaK wrote: »

Civic type R!

NinjaK

GavMan

RobAMerc wrote: »

just to be clear, "It's an Alfa" was part of my reasoning for you not being able to sell it. not why I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't buy it because you'd never sell it and I change too often to be months trying to flog it

To be fair, Alfa's get sold day in, day out. Granted it would be tough to sell and you would have to wait for the right buyer when selling on but I think if you're planning to keep it for 3-5 years, I really don't think it should be a priority when thinking of buying a car of this class (besides, it would be hard to shift any large petrol engine in ireland, let alone just because it's an Alfa). I happen to like it though and if I was in the market for a change I think.

On a seperate point, I think that 3.2 unit is some generic GM engine. Don't think it's the best in the line up anyway...Could be wrong on that.

MuppetCheck

Heroditas wrote: »

How about an A6 FSI V6?
255BHP and less than €18k!!

EDIT: the annual tax bill is a helluva stinger though! :eek:

Whoever specced that car should be shot. Manual, fwd and no cruise!

Paparazzo

I hate when someone has a pricerange and some muppet suggests something outside that price range.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/CL-Class/55-AMG/201203206661383/advert?channel=CARS