A two topic thread: 1) announcement and 2) a general plea/ramble for peace & love

Asry

1: Announcement

There's going to be a Passion Play tomorrow night in the Church of the Sacred Heart in Seabury in Malahide. 8pm. I'm an apostle. Yep I'm a girl. Deal with it. There weren't enough boys & I have short hair.

2: The Rambleplea

I think so much in Christianity is centred or focused on the wrong things. It just always seems to be about sexual morality or deriding the mistakes or flaws of others or getting up on one's high horse and condemning the religion/sexual preferences of other people.

And yeah. People make choices (or in some cases they don't have a choice ie sexual preferences but that's a can of worms I'm refusing to entertain in this thread). Life isn't fair or black + white or simple. So why can't people concentrate on finding the divine in other people instead of the opposite? Or focus on their own flaws instead of shrieking at other people about theirs?

I'm Catholic but with an uneasy relationship with the church as people who might me remember me would know from previous threads or posts. I do the best I can with what I have. I just think that people should lay down their arms - physical and tangible or mental or emotional - and try to live like Jesus himself talked about. I just always think....would Jesus say or think these things about these people? Or whatever. I mean. Stop preaching at other people & try to understand them instead.

Okay yeah I think my rant is over. I don't know what you're meant to say to that. Does anyone agree? Does anyone think I'm naive? I'd like to hear what people think. If you could support from scripture that'd be great. :)

prinz

Asry wrote: »

1: Announcement
There's going to be a Passion Play tomorrow night in the Church of the Sacred Heart in Seabury in Malahide. 8pm. I'm an apostle. Yep I'm a girl. Deal with it. There weren't enough boys & I have short hair.

Best of luck with it.

Asry wrote: »

2: The Rambleplea
I just think that people should lay down their arms - physical and tangible or mental or emotional - and try to live like Jesus himself talked about. I just always think....would Jesus say or think these things about these people? Or whatever. I mean. Stop preaching at other people & try to understand them instead.

Okay yeah I think my rant is over. I don't know what you're meant to say to that. Does anyone agree? Does anyone think I'm naive? I'd like to hear what people think. If you could support from scripture that'd be great. :)

Not entirely. Jesus didn't ignore people he thought were in the wrong. He encouraged them to see the error in their ways. There's a time for the tea and biscuits approach, and there's a time to tell it like it is, there's not a whole lot to be gained from pretending sins aren't sins and effectively looking the other way. The biggest achievements by Christians in the last few centuries have been won by people who didn't shut up and accept things, but spoke up, spoke out, and clearly stated what was wrong. William Wilberforce spent decades preaching against slavery. In the end his voice won out. You could say he was preaching at people. Should he have shut up and sat down? There's a fine line between preaching to one set of people, and being accused of preaching at another set.

Matthew 21:12... what did Jesus say or think about these people?

Doc Farrell

In times of peace a great many people get caught up in their own identity and when they feel threatened they lash out indiscriminately. Sometimes it takes a terrible tragedy to bring people together.

There is a considerable level of unpleasantness and defensiveness from all sides on here. In my next thread I'm hoping to focus on the positive aspects of Christianity, and hopefully those who add to it will do the same.

This is the wild west of the Internet, we can choose to return to tamer sites or we can live with the craziness/truth of anonymous posters. Other than taming our own words and contacting the mods when the rules are completely ignored there's not much else we can do.

If everyone could just think like me, well, the place would be very boring!

Good luck with your play tomorrow!

HamletOrHecuba

Christ came to bring the sword and not peace.

JimiTime

Asry wrote: »

try to live like Jesus himself talked about. .........Stop preaching at other people & try to understand them instead.

Do you see a bit of a paradox in this OP?

HamletOrHecuba

Deleted due to unreasonable antagonism and bigotry.

tommy2bad

HamletOrHecuba wrote: »

Christ came to bring the sword and not peace.

No He did not, the fact that He forsaw how we would behave dose not mean that was His intention.

Good luck with your event Asry, we all have issues with the church in one form or another but as long as we stick with it and it will come right eventually, with Gods help.

prinz

Asry wrote: »

I'm an apostle. Yep I'm a girl. Deal with it.

Actually reading this again it stuck out. Do you honestly think there was going to be a backlash against you on this forum because a girl shouldn't/couldn't take the role of an apostle?

gimmebroadband

HamletOrHecuba wrote: »

Christ came to bring the sword and not peace.

The sword is a symbol of future martydom for the Church, where her teachings will be met with hostility by those in the world. Jesus sent out his Disciples as sheep among wolves. Jesus said that the world hated Him first, so will the world hate his Church!

HamletOrHecuba

gimmebroadband wrote: »

The sword is a symbol of future martydom for the Church, where her teachings will be met with hostility by those in the world. Jesus sent out his Disciples as sheep among wolves. Jesus said that the world hated Him first, so will the world hate his Church!

I think its quite clear that He meant that His coming would bring division , both within man and among men.

Obviously Christians are not supposed to spread the Gospel through the sword at all.

Asry

prinz wrote: »

Actually reading this again it stuck out. Do you honestly think there was going to be a backlash against you on this forum because a girl shouldn't/couldn't take the role of an apostle?

I've been here before for quite awhile and yeah I was completely expecting that

Sorry that I haven't replied yet - I was busy all yesterday and have work to do today but I'll be on later and have a look at everyone's responses.

Oh and the play went well! I was really nervous.