New poll shows FG support on the rise

Sully

A new opinion poll released today has shown support for Fine Gael rising despite widespread opposition to the household charge.

The RedC poll for Paddy Power shows Fine Gael's first-preference support at 35%, up two percentage points from a similar poll conducted in January.

The result is almost the same share the party had at the last general election, when it secured 36% of first preference votes.

Party leader Enda Kenny gets the highest performance rating by some margin of all the main party leaders, with 23% giving him a performance rating of 8 or more out of 10.

Labour support was static on 16%, the poll indicated.

Fianna Fáil support was down 1% to 15% since January, indicating little impact from the Mahon report findings at this early stage.

The vast majority (81%) of voters believe that Fianna Fáil was right to propose the expulsion of Bertie Ahern from the party – with even 77% of Fianna Fáil voters agreeing it was the right thing to do.

Sinn Féin secure 14% share of the first preference vote, in line with the support they had in January, but is some way behind the levels of support they have seen in recent weeks.

Meanwhile Independent candidates secured 20% of the first preference vote in today's poll. This again is the same as in January, but is 3% higher than they achieved in a similar poll just one week ago.

The poll was conducted between a random sample of 1,009 adults aged 18+, between March 26 and 28 last.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland

Bit of a surge for Fine Gael but a big hit for Sinn Fein. Interesting considering the treaty talk and the household charge tax - with the Shinners against it and claiming victory. Surely this means their support would be strong and the government weak? Apparently not.

Besides, the household charge is seeing a strong surge in payments so maybe they called the victory a little early?

later12

So Mahon has probably knocked 1% net off Fianna Fail support and has had no visibly negative effect on Fine Gael's support? Slightly amazing.

Also interesting was that only a very small difference of opinion was observed between FF voters and non FF-voters, as regards the expulsion of Bertie Ahern from FF.

Suryavarman

later12 wrote: »

So Mahon has probably knocked 1% net off Fianna Fail support and has had no visibly negative effect on Fine Gael's support? Slightly amazing.

That is probably because everybody knew of the corruption in Fianna Fail and didn't need the results of the Mahon Tribunal to tell them about it.

BOHtox

As I said in a previous thread...
So an elderly lady who probably had something shouted at her reacts and someone takes a picture of it and all of a sudden we're as arrogant in one day as a party who built up arrogance by being in power 60 years of the last 80*.

I was at the Ard Fheis and let me tell you some of the stuff shouted was horrific. My friend even got a smack of a sign in the back. We rose above it though.

No one's buying your horseshít except for the people who are already brainwashed by the left's zero economic policies!


*rough estimate

kathy2

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Taylor-Quinn


What's horrific is the blatant lies the ECB came out and issued a press statement!! The money was paid end off

Sierra Oscar

FF voters are staying with FG for now - interestingly they are not going to SF.

Chucky the tree

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

FF voters are staying with FG for now - interestingly they are not going to SF.

Why would they go to SF? They are completely different economically and I doubt the majority really give a **** about the 32 counties anymore.

kathy2

Something might come out of remnants of pd's greens and labour. Times are changing fast mcguinness polled really well for the park. I think FG will see a bleak result in treaty and 20 seats or less after next election

Avns1s

kathy2 wrote: »

Something might come out of remnants of pd's greens and labour. Times are changing fast mcguinness polled really well for the park. I think FG will see a bleak result in treaty and 20 seats or less after next election

Well, I accept it's early days but that view wouldn't be borne out at this stage, by the most recent polls.

Your anti FG sentiments expressed in a number of threads are noted.

Godge

kathy2 wrote: »

Something might come out of remnants of pd's greens and labour. Times are changing fast mcguinness polled really well for the park. I think FG will see a bleak result in treaty and 20 seats or less after next election

That is so funny.

When the next election comes around and the budget deficit is down to 3% and we are back in the markets with the IMF gone, you think that FG will be down to 20 seats or less!!!

Do you really think that we will be ready to give the nutcases in SF and ULA the reigns of government?

kathy2

Not really anti FG god knows like everyone else I was delighed with a change of government really profoundly disappointed so far and horrified at labour

Avns1s

kathy2 wrote: »

Not really anti FG god knows like everyone else I was delighed with a change of government really profoundly disappointed so far and horrified at labour

Care to tell us why?

Sunnyisland

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Why would they go to SF? They are completely different economically and I doubt the majority really give a **** about the 32 counties anymore.

Whats this anymore bit, The majority of people in the 26 counties never gave a **** anyway,anytime.

Jaysoose

Godge wrote: »

That is so funny.

When the next election comes around and the budget deficit is down to 3% and we are back in the markets with the IMF gone, you think that FG will be down to 20 seats or less!!!

Do you really think that we will be ready to give the nutcases in SF and ULA the reigns of government?

If you believe this is going to happen your deluded, the household charge non-payment shows us the level of contempt for the current administrations attempts at righting the ship. No imagination whatsoever or well thought out policies so far just more of the same old same old..protect the public service pay and steamroller the rest of the tax base.

Zero reform as yet to be seen in real terms and noonan lauding the deferrment of the anglo note for 13 years while ignoring the fact that we will pay more interest on it as a result shows all the financial nous of somebody paying for the shopping with a maxed out credit card and paying the minimum amount every month.

The real problem we face in the next few years is there is NOBODY else credible to run the country..sf and the lefties are a joke while FF is on the verge of collapse. There is no opposition that can stop the FG horror show.

Sully

Jaysoose wrote: »

If you believe this is going to happen your deluded.

Already sampling the markets. Second bailout looking increasingly less likely (though I suspect a top up maybe required, but not to the same extent).

Jaysoose

realies wrote: »

Whats this anymore bit, The majority of people in the 26 counties never gave a **** anyway,anytime.

You speak for them do you?

Jaysoose

Sully wrote: »

Already sampling the markets. Second bailout looking increasingly less likely (though I suspect a top up maybe required, but not to the same extent).

Seems that the expected budget for next year wont even be on target.

http://www.thejournal.ie/budget-leaks-e3-5bn-budget-for-2013-still-wont-meet-troika-targets-283243-Nov2011/

Nor will it hit the 3%

http://www.independent.ie/business/european/debt-crisis-ireland-will-not-meet-3pc-budget-deficit-target-goodbody-stockbrokers-2984205.html

Sully

Jaysoose wrote: »

Seems that the expected budget for next year wont even be on target.

http://www.thejournal.ie/budget-leaks-e3-5bn-budget-for-2013-still-wont-meet-troika-targets-283243-Nov2011/

Nor will it hit the 3%

http://www.independent.ie/business/european/debt-crisis-ireland-will-not-meet-3pc-budget-deficit-target-goodbody-stockbrokers-2984205.html

Speculation. Will have to see what happens.

Godge

Jaysoose wrote: »

Seems that the expected budget for next year wont even be on target.

http://www.thejournal.ie/budget-leaks-e3-5bn-budget-for-2013-still-wont-meet-troika-targets-283243-Nov2011/

Nor will it hit the 3%

http://www.independent.ie/business/european/debt-crisis-ireland-will-not-meet-3pc-budget-deficit-target-goodbody-stockbrokers-2984205.html

One of those media reports is from last November, the other is from last January, both of which I was aware of back then and both of which were crystal-ball gazing. What new up-to-date information does linking to them do now?

thecommietommy

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

FF voters are staying with FG for now - interestingly they are not going to SF.

FF or FG - what's the difference ?? FG the new FF.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Why would they go to SF? They are completely different economically and I doubt the majority really give a **** about the 32 counties anymore.

SF are obviously different economically, they try to place themselves between capitalism and the workers in the way FF did in their early days. Despite their claims about Collins etc, most FGers are derived from the Redmondites and broken down gentry etc, they never gave a thought about 26 or 32 counties. Indeed many of them would like to see the country back in the UK if the truth was known !!!!

Jaysoose

Godge wrote: »

One of those media reports is from last November, the other is from last January, both of which I was aware of back then and both of which were crystal-ball gazing. What new up-to-date information does linking to them do now?

So whats changed in the meantime? and by "last january" you mean 9 or so weeks ago..hardly an age in the context of the irish goverment and the speed at which they move now is it.

Whats changed to discount these reports? the deferrment of one bond to anglo (which will cost more in the long run) is going to save us is it?

Jaysoose

Sully wrote: »

Speculation. Will have to see what happens.

No offer of a rebuttal as to why we will magically hit our budgets or is it a simple case of Kenny and noonan say we will so its gonna happen.

Godge

Jaysoose wrote: »

So whats changed in the meantime? and by "last january" you mean 9 or so weeks ago..hardly an age in the context of the irish goverment and the speed at which they move now is it.

Whats changed to discount these reports? the deferrment of one bond to anglo (which will cost more in the long run) is going to save us is it?

Don't think we have seen the full effect of whatever discussions are going on in Brussels about the promissory notes so will wait and see another while.

As for the rest, reports are coming out all the time. Think the next Central Bank report is due out today or tomorrow so there are more recent ones. There are also more recent information on tax receipts, unemployment numbers, inflation etc. Maybe I should rephrase. Why would you give credence to those reports over all others?

Jaysoose

Godge wrote: »

Don't think we have seen the full effect of whatever discussions are going on in Brussels about the promissory notes so will wait and see another while.

As for the rest, reports are coming out all the time. Think the next Central Bank report is due out today or tomorrow so there are more recent ones. There are also more recent information on tax receipts, unemployment numbers, inflation etc. Maybe I should rephrase. Why would you give credence to those reports over all others?

Will the discussions over the promissary notes somehow address the overspend by the goverment?

I never claimed they had credence over any other report and put them up as an alternative view on the budget deficit and the claims that we were on track to reach 3%. You attempted to discredit them based on the fact that they were released on a date prior to todays.

In fairness all the creative accounting with promissary notes will not matter a hoot when the irish goverment is still overspending to the levels it is at present.

ShatterResistant

Indeed many of them would like to see the country back in the UK if the truth was known !!!!

And you have gotten that where? Are you the new spokesperson for FG members?

Laminations

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

FF voters are staying with FG for now - interestingly they are not going to SF.

FF voters? Interesting that your party still lays claim to these voters as if there is something innately FF about them or their mentality. As if they are just holidaying with or renting their vote to FG but they'll eventually feel homesick and return to the fold. How long does a voter have to stay away from FF to rid themselves of the label 'FF voter'? So either you're admitting there is some deep unhealthy FF loyalty or it really hasn't dawned on you that your party has lost people's trust and respect. No, you're right, eventually those voters will see sense and FF will be whole again...

Sierra Oscar

Laminations wrote: »

FF voters? Interesting that your party still lays claim to these voters as if there is something innately FF about them or their mentality. As if they are just holidaying with or renting their vote to FG but they'll eventually feel homesick and return to the fold. How long does a voter have to stay away from FF to rid themselves of the label 'FF voter'? So either you're admitting there is some deep unhealthy FF loyalty or it really hasn't dawned on you that your party has lost people's trust and respect. No, you're right, eventually those voters will see sense and FF will be whole again...

Yawn, your constant lashing out against me is tiring at this stage.

When I say FF voters you know exactly what I mean - i.e. the voters that tradtionally voted for FF candidates but did not do so during the 2011 General Election.