Who will break the boundaries of music this decade?

Sully34

Without going too far back we have had the likes of Syd Barret/Pink Floyd to Kurt Cobain to the most recent Radiohead breaking boundaries and creating music with great critical acclaim. Who is out there now at the moment that will bring something fresh and new?

AnonoBoy

Sully34 wrote: »

Without going too far back we have had the likes of Syd Barret/Pink Floyd to Kurt Cobain to the most recent Radiohead breaking boundaries and creating music with great critical acclaim. Who is out there now at the moment that will bring something fresh and new?

Kurt Cobain wrote some great pop tunes and ran them through a fuzz box. I liked it but it was hardly boundary-breaking.

Sully34

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Kurt Cobain wrote some great pop tunes and ran them through a fuzz box. I liked it but it was hardly boundary-breaking.

Look what it did for the Grunge movement in the 90's,it opened a floodgate. Dont get me wrong,he was no John Lennon but he did open a lot of doors for bands that we would never have got to hear

AnonoBoy

Sully34 wrote: »

Look what it did for the Grunge movement in the 90's,it opened a floodgate. Dont get me wrong,he was no John Lennon but he did open a lot of doors for bands that we would never have got to hear

Oh god that phrase 'grunge' is horrible. What does it mean?

Nirvana being successful did yes pave the way for a lot more bands to get into the spotlight.

But that's nothing to do with pushing the musical boundaries.

I'd say Mercury Rev's Boces was way more boundary-pushing that anything Nirvana ever released.

Sully34

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Oh god that phrase 'grunge' is horrible. What does it mean?

Nirvana being successful did yes pave the way for a lot more bands to get into the spotlight.

But that's nothing to do with pushing the musical boundaries.

I'd say Mercury Rev's Boces was way more boundary-pushing that anything Nirvana ever released.

I agree and the same could be said about the Pixies but not many people heard either of them untill Nirvana broke through. It made a lot of these bands more "commercial" which was probably everything they were striving not to be.

AnonoBoy

Sully34 wrote: »

I agree and the same could be said about the Pixies but not many people heard either of them untill Nirvana broke through.

Ah here... The Pixies were doing perfectly fine and were very well known - even in Ireland before Nirvana broke. They used to feature strongly in Fanning's Fab 50 before Smells Like Teen Spirit claimed the #1 spot in 1991.

Sully34

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Ah here... The Pixies were doing perfectly fine and were very well known - even in Ireland before Nirvana broke. They used to feature strongly in Fanning's Fab 50 before Smells Like Teen Spirit claimed the #1 spot in 1991.

I have everything by the Pixies since day one but my point being is that I didnt know a whole lot of other people that knew or liked them untill "Smells like teen spirit"

AnonoBoy

Sully34 wrote: »

I have everything by the Pixies since day one but my point being is that I didnt know a whole lot of other people that knew or liked them untill "Smells like teen spirit"

Maybe you should widen your social circle then because my point still stands. They were getting voted into the top ten of Fanning's Fab 50 before Nevermind was released so therefore they were fairly well known in Ireland.

And even if they weren't it still doesn't change the fact that Nirvana did not push musical boundaries.

Sully34

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Maybe you should widen your social circle then because my point still stands. They were getting voted into the top ten of Fanning's Fab 50 before Nevermind was released so therefore they were fairly well known in Ireland.

And even if they weren't it still doesn't change the fact that Nirvana did not push musical boundaries.

Well without having personal digs, In Utero was a groundbreaking album musically and lyrically and far away from what was going on at the time

AnonoBoy

Sully34 wrote: »

Well without having personal digs, In Utero was a groundbreaking album musically and lyrically and far away from what was going on at the time

Definition of 'ground-breaking' obviously vary a lot between us then.

I'm out.

smokedeels

Sully34 wrote: »

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Maybe you should widen your social circle then because my point still stands. They were getting voted into the top ten of Fanning's Fab 50 before Nevermind was released so therefore they were fairly well known in Ireland.

And even if they weren't it still doesn't change the fact that Nirvana did not push musical boundaries.

Well without having personal digs, In Utero was a groundbreaking album musically and lyrically and far away from what was going on at the time

It's a damn fine album but it's pretty basic stuff musically, it was played with intent, the songs were great and the production is nice and raw but it's only groundbreaking because it was a hit record that sounded like numerous undergound American bands who couldn't sell sh1t to the record buying public.

I'm pretty sure they had no intention of pushing boundaries and simply wanted to play the style of music they enjoyed, which is why I like them and that album.

And, tbh the lyrics sucked

WoollyRedHat

The Post- Rock genre is an nice development, on the back of some really great bands, Sigur Ros and Explosions in the Sky being the obvious ones

Our very own God is an Astronaut are one of my favorite bands, their music contains so much simple yet brilliant elegance, and can be anything you want, which is what I love about the genre.

As for this decade, too early to know.
A lot of dreamy/ surreal like music is beginning to surface now, just have to sort the good from the bad.

guitarzero

So many bands who have actually broken a lot of traditions in making music dont get enough recognition anyway. Listen to The Avalanches 'Since I left you' or Boards of Canada, 10 years old and master pieces in my view but no one mentions them. Theres so much out there that has past people by, would be worth taking a look.

But an actual Rock Band of sorts? Dont see anything happening on a grand scale, Indie still seems to be running it course but with a lot more neon, beards, hats and other distractions from the actual music. And, of course, no one even remembers last weeks indie fad band anyway.

Electronic seems to be the way, at least for now.

kunst nugget

Honestly, I think your question is more 'Who will be the next big band it will be okay to like?' Nirvana were good on the whole but were they pushing boundaries? Nah, I don't think so but they did have the melodic sensibilities to help push their songs up the charts with the help of their major label. Grunge or the scene that inspired it had been in full flow with the likes of Green River and Beat Happening then Mudhoney for a fair few years before Nirvana bounced on the scene. Pixies were definitely bigger scene changers but then you can hear the influence of bands like Husker Du on them. Slint quietly working in the background at the same time as Nirvana pushed back more musical boundaries imo and really helped to establish the notion of post rock along with the likes of Tortoise. Pink Floyd were responsible for for introducing ponderous rock to the world but Syd Barrett? I don't think he really pushed back musical boundaries but showed us that it's quite sad to see talent lost to madness and that there will be a market for musical curiosities and outsider art.

The bands and artists that will be pushing back musical boundaries are more than likely not going to be the bands to break out into the mainstream beyond a few exceptions and usually it's easier to see their impact in retrospect than it is at the time. And like guitarzero says electronic seems to be the way forward at the moment.

Fishooks12

Burial is the most innovative electronic musician in years IMO

Grizzly Bear would be up there in terms of indie and alternative

The weeknd have made RnB great again

Blisterman

I'm not sure if many artists really ever break the boundaries. I think music evolves much more subtley.

There's a kind of spectrum of experimentalism, from the traditionalist bands to the extremely avant garde experimental music, and loads of new sounds and ideas are constantly being created by people on the far side of that spectrum. Slowly but surely, a small proportion of these sounds filter their way towards the other side of the spectrum, eventually being adopted by the mainstream.

With fewer massively popular bands out there, and many more smaller acts, I find it hard to imagine any single band revolutionising music in the near future. Instead it'll be many gradual trends moving and evolving.

rcaz

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Burial is the most innovative electronic musician in years IMO

You reckon? He's very very good... But it's kinda just weird garage isn't it?

My vote for that one goes to Autechre.

Jim_Kiy

The decade has a long way to go..For me so far this decade its the transpersonals..diverse..orginal as fcuk... .totally underrated.arcade fire for sure...and possibly a band seen last nite in the acamedy Breton...they have some great write ups but they didnt do any vt which I was looking forward to..but there was less than 100 people there..but they still gave a great show..ones to watch for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTJVcZctjY

Thats not Dublin btw ..its France

Not all the songs are as good as this one unfortunately..

stateofflux

kunst nugget wrote: »

Pink Floyd were responsible for introducing ponderous rock to the world but Syd Barrett? I don't think he really pushed back musical boundaries but showed us that it's quite sad to see talent lost to madness and that there will be a market for musical curiosities and outsider art.

.. syd barrett was a boundary pushing pioneer , beatles, hendrix etc were at the earliest floyd shows taking notes for what was to become psychedelic which then influenced everyone from bowie to bauhaus.

kunst nugget

stateofflux wrote: »

.. syd barrett was a boundary pushing pioneer , beatles, hendrix etc were at the earliest floyd shows taking notes for what was to become psychedelic which then influenced everyone from bowie to bauhaus.

Fair point. I suppose for me, while I find the music interesting it's never lived up to the legendary status it has acquired over the years.

kunst nugget

rcaz wrote: »

You reckon? He's very very good... But it's kinda just weird garage isn't it?

My vote for that one goes to Autechre.

I think he opened people's eyes to what was possible with dubstep and I think his influence is pretty pervasive through the whole bass music end of things. While dubstep has gone down two different roads with the Americans fully embracing the powertool epileptic fit it was his work that signposted where the more interesting end of things was headed and I think it's promoted a cross pollination of ideas that has helped revitalise house and techno. All these genres are being thrown into the melting pot and where getting all that great work that is coming out from the likes of Hotflush and Hyperdub. Definitely think he's been one of the most influential people in electronic music over the last couple of years. But then there's a lot more influential figures from London along with Detroit and Berlin that are helping to evolve dance music. But then the Indie forums probably not the best place to be discussing it.

Sully34

What about Lady Gaga? That **** is dope

lordgoat

Sully34 wrote: »

What about Lady Gaga? That **** is dope

Actually as a Pop artist Lady Gaga is one of the best of her time.

dots03

The older I get, the harder I find myself really intrigued and interested in new music being made. I'm very receptive to new sounds and new musical experiences, but as a result of having listened to a lot of music over the years I am finding it harder to find genre bending or innovative new music.

Some albums\artists I've heard over the years which I would call groundbreaking or really innovative musically (to me that is...as in 'I've never really heard anything like this before) are Vision Creation Newsun by the Boredoms, Sigur Ros, Einstürzende Neubauten, Thingy, the brown album by Orbital and early Sonic Youth.

I suppose though that breaking the boundaries of music can be done in many ways...you don't necessarily need to innovate musically to do so (or do you?)

So many questions...so much music...so little time