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Do the gards in limerick care about noise complaints?

  • 25-03-2012 11:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    Was having a party the other day and the police came twice, and each time they just said "We got a call the music was too loud" and then left. They didn't seem too bothered at all. Anyone else have experience with this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    They were being polite. your home is your catle and they will rarely get involved if it stays within the house.

    Drugs, underage drinking or spilling out onto the street are likely to get a much stronger response


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Delphi91


    Was having a party the other day and the police came twice, and each time they just said "We got a call the music was too loud" and then left. They didn't seem too bothered at all. Anyone else have experience with this?

    Did ya not consider, given the fact that they called twice, that maybe they were trying to make a point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Beaver1


    yeah why didnt you turn the music down the first time they came


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭El Inho


    is it true that noise complaints before 11pm are more of less impossible?

    was in a band a few years ago and that was our cut off time, legally, to practice.

    just a query.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Gardai in Limerick dont seem to care about everyday law and order. Gangs of little scumbags roaming the streets, junkies begging and hassling people, cars abandoned everywhere.

    I cannot remeber the last time I saw gardai walking the beat in the city centre its a joke.

    Also to clarify I said everyday law and order they are doing a great job focusing on the criminal gangs and getting those scrotes of the streets but they have taken their eye of the ball on everything else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Noise complaints are an issue for the Council to deal with, not the Gardai


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Savage Henry


    Was having a party the other day and the police came twice, and each time they just said "We got a call the music was too loud" and then left. They didn't seem too bothered at all. Anyone else have experience with this?

    This is just...weird:confused: What exactly is your point? Are you annoyed that the Gardai didn't take further action against yourself because you ignored their warnings?

    Jesus that is a first...some people are never happy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Noise complaints are a matter for your council and the District court.

    Absolutely nothing got to do with the Gardai.

    They called twice out of courtesy to the person that called them.

    They didn't have to. They did none the less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Gallee


    Not necessarily correct Turner...

    under the Non Fatal Offences Against the Person Act, 1997

    ASSAULT
    Non Fatal Offences Against the Person Act, 1997
    Assault
    S.2—(1) A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful
    excuse, intentionally or recklessly
    (a) directly or indirectly applies force to or causes an impact on the body of another, or
    (b) causes another to believe on reasonable grounds that he is likely
    immediately to be subjected to any such force or impact,
    without the consent of the other.

    The essence of the first form of assault, on paragraph (a), is the application of force or on impact. It is not clear whether words can constitute the second form of assault, as set out in paragraph (b).


    (2) In subsection (1)(a), “force” includes—
    (a) application of heat, light, electric current, noise or any other form of
    energy, and
    (b) application of matter in solid liquid or gaseous form191.

    (3) No such offence is committed if the force or impact, not being intended or
    likely to cause injury, is in the circumstances such as is generally acceptable in the ordinary conduct of daily life and the defendant does not know or believe that it is in fact unacceptable to the other person.
    (4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary
    conviction to a fine not exceeding €1,904.61 or to imprisonment for a term not
    exceeding 6 months or to both.

    It's a stretch but it's there - correct?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Nope. Absolute rubbish.

    You would be laughed out of court if you tried to prosecute for assault.

    If you want laws where Gardai can act on noise complaints contact the minister for justice.

    In the meantime contact your district court.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Gallee


    Turner wrote: »
    Nope. Absolute rubbish.

    You would be laughed out of court if you tried to prosecute for assault.

    If you want laws where Gardai can act on noise complaints contact the minister for justice.

    In the meantime contact your district court.

    Ok Ok - no need to be getting thick...lets be civil.....just reading what the law says and it was my interpretation that a prosecution could be secured. I am neither a Garda or an Officer of the Court.

    Personally I think the OP was totally inconsiderate and has wasted valuable Garda time as well as inconveniencing neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Turner wrote: »
    Noise complaints are a matter for your council and the District court.
    Absolutely nothing got to do with the Gardai.

    They called twice out of courtesy to the person that called them.

    They didn't have to. They did none the less.


    Not disagreeing with the correct point you made there, but when one goes to their local council they often get told that they have to ring the Gardai in an attempt at buck passing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Not disagreeing with the correct point you made there, but when one goes to their local council they often get told that they have to ring the Gardai in an attempt at buck passing.

    This does happen, but that's the council being lazy, about it. There is no Garda power in any legislation to deal with noise complaints. Gardai will call to the house and ask for the music to be turned down. That's as far as it goes, it usually works too, but Gardai calling around is a courtesy thing.

    The power lies with the courts, the council and the EPA.

    From the Citizens advice bureau website
    How to apply

    Approach the person or business responsible for the noise and try to reach a mutually acceptable solution. You may find that they were not aware of the nuisance and in most cases, this will resolve the problem.

    If you have tried to resolve the problem amicably and this has not worked, you may then refer your complaint to your local authority, or you can take your complaint directly to your local District Court or the Environmental Protection Authority.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    So what we have learned is that although Gardai have no power and no legislation to act on some Gardai will call out of courtesy and ask people to turn music down.

    They line themselves up for abuse and a good door slamming to be told "f$%k off this is my house i can do what i want"

    So i guess the op's question has been answered.

    Yes, some Gardai do care but are powerless to do anything about it.


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