Mexican 7.6 Earthquake. Drill was occuring at the exact time of quake.

Daithi 1

Coincidence right ?

There was an earthquake simulation drill being carried out in Mexico at 12:00pm, within 30 minutes of the quake hitting on the 20th.

http://tinyurl.com/82yezq5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt1UPfyMx9w

Knock yourselves out.

RichieC

Bit mad alright. That seems to happen a lot. both 9/11 and 7/7 were running simulations on the day of the attacks. anyone know any other examples?

Daithi 1

RichieC wrote: »

Bit mad alright. That seems to happen a lot. both 9/11 and 7/7 were running simulations on the day of the attacks. anyone know any other examples?

YES.

Norwegian Police Confirm Drill Identical to Breivik’s Attack

The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reports today police sources have confirmed that hours before Anders Behring Breivik launched his deadly attack at a political summer camp on Utøya island on July 22, police had conducted a drill for a “practically identical scenario.”...
http://www.infowars.com/norwegian-police-confirm-drill-identical-to-breiviks-attack/











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JONJO THE MISER

Just watched the video, what is the guy trying to say, that some goverment caused the earthquake?
Its Just a coincidence.

JONJO THE MISER

Some people on youtube are predicting a massive earthquake tomorrow or Friday.

Daithi 1

I just read that in Mexico they run preparedness drills annually due to the 1986 quake that killed 10,000 people.
Still, it's a pretty wild coincidence for the quake to occur 2 minutes into the drill.
I wonder what the odds are....

studiorat

Mexico has something close to active 40 volcanoes. The epi-centre of the quake a few days ago has had around 180 tremors since the beginning of the year.

Probably a coincidence if it didn't happen on the same day as an earthquake.

edit: same area had 9 earthquakes between 2.5 and 5 magnitude yesterday alone and another two already this morning.

Jonny7

I might go with coincidence on this one. The alternative that the Mexicans have a special secret Earthquake predicting machine that works months in advance but it's results are only available to the inhabitants of Chiapas would be a little far-fetched.

Daithi 1

studiorat wrote: »

Mexico has something close to active 40 volcanoes. The epi-centre of the quake a few days ago has had around 180 tremors since the beginning of the year.

Probably a coincidence if it didn't happen on the same day as an earthquake.

edit: same area had 9 earthquakes between 2.5 and 5 magnitude yesterday alone and another two already this morning.

Yes, I believe they are called aftershocks.

Jonny7 wrote: »

I might go with coincidence on this one.

:eek: And you're usually so open minded...

Jonny7

Daithi 1 wrote: »

:eek: And you're usually so open minded...

why thank you! and you're usually a bastion of sense and reason

Brown Bomber

RichieC wrote: »

Bit mad alright. That seems to happen a lot. both 9/11 and 7/7 were running simulations on the day of the attacks. anyone know any other examples?

There was a NATO drill in Madrid in 2004 that ended just hours before the terrorist attack.
http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2004/p04-022e.htm

Press Statement
NATO to conduct its annual crisis management exercise CMX 2004 from 4 to 10 march 2004
The exercise is designed to practice crisis management procedures, including civil-military cooperation, in order to maintain and improve the Alliance's ability to manage crises.

The scenario for this exercise is hypothetical. It will depict a developing Article 5 situation within a threat environment that includes a terrorism and WMD dimension. (Article 5 of the Washington Treaty is the basic commitment to collective defence that nations make when they join the Alliance. It states that an armed attack on one or more of the Allies will be deemed an attack against them all). No actual troops will be deployed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cznRVGutFeg

Daithi 1

It might same time and energy if we compile a list of terror attacks where there was not a drill coinciding with the real events.

Oklahoma bombing:

At the same time of the Oklahoma bombing, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were also carrying out a drill at the same time, in the same building.

Of those four agencies, two of them -- the U.S. Marshals' office and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms -- were actually officed in the Murrah Building. In addition, the Oklahoma City Fire Department was warned by the FBI, says the report. And Federal Judge Wayne Alley admitted in an interview the day of the bombing (published in the Portland Oregonian, April 20, 1995) that he also had been told to be on the alert for a possible bombing.
Five witnesses who spoke to Key and his committee said they talked to federal officials who in turn claimed that no Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents were in the building at the time of the bombing.
And another five witnesses said they saw bomb-squad vehicles in downtown Oklahoma City shortly before the blast went off at just after 9 a.m.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_update.htm



Russian Apartment bombings:

On March 13, 2004, in an articled called, Secret at the heart of Putin's rise to power, the UK Telegraph wrote, "Shortly afterwards the two men were arrested. ... Each produced documents showing that he worked for the FSB. Later an order came down from Moscow ordering the local police release them." The next day, the head of the FSB announced that the entire operation had merely been a training drill. However, the local police concluded that the working explosive they found was the exact type used in the other bombings. Also, the bombings stopped when the FSB agents were caught.

http://www.thehiddenevil.com/report11.asp


Any more anyone

Brown Bomber

The NATO attack on Libya has a similar background too.

Further complicating the Administration’s failure to come to Congress prior to ordering an attack is the fact that our primary partners in the war against Libya, France and Great Britain, had, according to a French military website, planned certain war games which now may have significance.



On November 2, 2010 France and Great Britain signed a mutual defense treaty, which paved the way for joint participation in a military exercise called ‘Southern Mistral’ (w
ww.southern-mistral.cdaoa.fr). While war games are not uncommon, the similarities between ‘Southern Mistral’ and ‘Operation Odyssey Dawn’ highlight just how many unanswered questions remain regarding our own military planning for Libya.


The ‘Southern Mistral’ war games called for Great Britain-French air strikes against an unnamed dictator of a fictional country, “Southland.” The pretend attack was authorized by a pretend United Nations Security Council Resolution. The ‘Southern Mistral’ war games were set for March 21-25, 2011.



On March 19, 2011, the United States joined France and Great Britain in an air attack against Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya pursuant to UN Security Council Resolution 1973.
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=231106

Jaafa

There seem to be too many of these coincident, all happening at the same time as major terrorist attacks or disasters.

One possible explanation I guess is that one or two of them are coincident, and the rest are the terrorists timing their attacks to coincide with drills, to cause further confusion. Is that possible? Is the timing of these drills public knowledge?

If not, how are their so many of them happening the exact same days as these attacks?

LeinsterDub

Jaafa wrote: »

There seem to be too many of these coincident, all happening at the same time as major terrorist attacks or disasters.

One possible explanation I guess is that one or two of them are coincident, and the rest are the terrorists timing their attacks to coincide with drills, to cause further confusion. Is that possible? Is the timing of these drills public knowledge?

If not, how are their so many of them happening the exact same days as these attacks?

Simple probability. There are a few incidents which happen to occur on or around the day or a drill . While there hundreds of thousand of incidents and drills that don't coincide with anything.

Jaafa

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Simple probability. There are a few incidents which happen to occur on or around the day or a drill . While there hundreds of thousand of incidents and drills that don't coincide with anything.

But how many that drill almost the exact same events of these attacks? That figure would surely be very small.

LeinsterDub

Jaafa wrote: »

But how many that drill almost the exact same events of these attacks? That figure would surely be very small.

Not really the point of these drills is to replicate and rehearse the most likely incident . Now if there was a earth quake drill in Ireland and 30 minutes later we where hit by one that would be interesting but a earth quake drill in a place prone to earth quakes or a terrorist act on the tube drill where the tube is a very soft target is just common sense

Jaafa

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Not really the point of these drills is to replicate and rehearse the most likely incident . Now if there was a earth quake drill in Ireland and 30 minutes later we where hit by one that would be interesting but a earth quake drill in a place prone to earth quakes or a terrorist act on the tube drill where the tube is a very soft target is just common sense

Fair enough, but this is all talk right now, do you have any actual statistics for the number of terror drills that simulate attacks on transportation in London?

Or how many that simulate flying airplanes into major population centers in the US?

I think it's very important to determine how often these take place.

Daithi 1

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Simple probability. There are a few incidents which happen to occur on or around the day or a drill . While there hundreds of thousand of incidents and drills that don't coincide with anything.

Not quite as simple as that.

All the biggest terror attacks in history coincide with drills of the exact same scenario at the exact same time.

Simple probability ? :pac:

LeinsterDub

Daithi 1 wrote: »

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Simple probability. There are a few incidents which happen to occur on or around the day or a drill . While there hundreds of thousand of incidents and drills that don't coincide with anything.

Not quite as simple as that.

All the biggest terror attacks in history coincide with drills of the exact same scenario at the exact same time.

Simple probability ? :pac:

All? The Bali bombings? Nerve gas attacks in Japan? Enniskillen? Madrid? Dublin ?

There have been 3 examples given in this thread where drills and attacks have happened in a similar time frame . Wikipedia lists over a hundred incidents in 2010 and 2011 none of which had a drill being carried out as far as I know .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks how many of these had a drill in the same time frame as the attack?

Jaafa

LeinsterDub wrote: »

All? The Bali bombings? Nerve gas attacks in Japan? Enniskillen? Madrid? Dublin ?

There have been 3 examples given in this thread where drills and attacks have happened in a similar time frame . Wikipedia lists over a hundred incidents in 2010 and 2011 none of which had a drill being carried out as far as I know .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks how many of these had a drill in the same time frame as the attack?

I think the implication here is saying in the last 20-30 years western countries have been using drills to somehow facilitate terror attacks.

If we take that as the theory, then we need to remove all attacks older than 30 years from that list, so only attacks 1990 and all attacks that did not occur in the west.

A quick estimate, produces about 10-15 attacks tops under that criteria.

Daithi 1

LeinsterDub wrote: »

All? The Bali bombings? Nerve gas attacks in Japan? Enniskillen? Madrid? Dublin ?

There have been 3 examples given in this thread where drills and attacks have happened in a similar time frame . Wikipedia lists over a hundred incidents in 2010 and 2011 none of which had a drill being carried out as far as I know .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks how many of these had a drill in the same time frame as the attack?

3 examples ?

9/11, 7/7, Oklahoma, Madrid bombings, Russian Apartment bombings, Norway attacks and NATO attack on Libya has a similar background too.

Is that 3 examples ?


Ohhhhhhhhh, and look....

BALI BOMBINGS - 10/2005

The investigation revealed that on 08/31/2005, one month before the second Bali bombing, terrorists managed to put a partially assembled bomb on the 4th floor of Kuta Paradiso Hotel. The bomb passed the security check at the hotel and the security cameras on the hotel were broken. There were no explosives in the bomb. It is possible that the event was a drill to check the security measures.

http://globaljihad.net/view_page.asp?id=808

So, there was a drill, of sorts.

LeinsterDub

Daithi 1 wrote: »

LeinsterDub wrote: »

All? The Bali bombings? Nerve gas attacks in Japan? Enniskillen? Madrid? Dublin ?

There have been 3 examples given in this thread where drills and attacks have happened in a similar time frame . Wikipedia lists over a hundred incidents in 2010 and 2011 none of which had a drill being carried out as far as I know .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks how many of these had a drill in the same time frame as the attack?

3 examples ?

9/11, 7/7, Oklahoma, Madrid bombings, Russian Apartment bombings, Norway attacks and NATO attack on Libya has a similar background too.

Is that 3 examples ?


Ohhhhhhhhh, and look....

BALI BOMBINGS - 10/2005

The investigation revealed that on 08/31/2005, one month before the second Bali bombing, terrorists managed to put a partially assembled bomb on the 4th floor of Kuta Paradiso Hotel. The bomb passed the security check at the hotel and the security cameras on the hotel were broken. There were no explosives in the bomb. It is possible that the event was a drill to check the security measures.

http://globaljihad.net/view_page.asp?id=808

So, there was a drill, of sorts.

Not sure what relevance the NATO attack has and the bali one was a dry run by the attackers?