Irish minister encourages people to go WA

snubbleste

Irish minister encourages skilled Irish workers to relocate temporarily to Western Australia.
150k potential Irish people would increase WA population by 10%!

WA Training Minister Peter Collier has blamed the Australian Federal Government's "Neanderthal" visa processing program for the collapse of high-level negotiations between the State and Irish governments to bring 150,000 skilled workers temporarily to WA.
Mr Collier led a delegation of business figures to Ireland in July in a bid to recruit one-third of its 450,000 unemployed workers to tackle WA's skilled labour shortfall.
But Irish Training and Skills Minister Ciaran Cannon wrote to Mr Collier late last month citing Australia's visa requirements as "one of the major obstacles preventing skilled Irish workers from taking up positions" in WA. Mr Collier and Mr Cannon had hoped to bypass Federal Government approval for the cohort's migration by using company-sponsored 457 visas, which have no cap. The West Australian - WA blasts work visa barrier

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Should an Irish minister be campaigning to have work visa restrictions relaxed in a foreign nation to foster the emigration of highly educated people who benefited from taxpayer-funded education?
He should be actively campaigning to foster job creation in this country.

Hande hoche!

Just send a good chunk of the prison population :pac:

WoollyRedHat

Sure, don't them birds emigrate, sure they seem happy, they probably got the idea off us Irish to begin with, let them be free like birds I say, let them fly to WA, let them fly.

Guill

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Just send a good chunk of the prison population :pac:

Worked before!

Dravokivich

Guill wrote: »

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Just send a good chunk of the prison population :pac:

Worked before!

Irish politics = do what the Brits did.

token101

snubbleste wrote: »

Irish minister encourages skilled Irish workers to relocate temporarily to Western Australia.
150k potential Irish people would increase WA population by 10%!

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Should an Irish minister be campaigning to have work visa restrictions relaxed in a foreign nation to foster the emigration of highly educated people who benefited from taxpayer-funded education?
He should be actively campaigning to foster job creation in this country.

Good thing. Especially for graduates/young tradesmen (and tradeswomen I suppose!). Good experience, lifewise and professionally. Education means FA without getting experience. Also gets people off the dole, decreasing the tax burden. Why cant he do both? Job creation takes time. Why not encourage people to leave temporarily until the outlook is better? Australia is hardly a labour camp is it?

Gee Bag

a bid to recruit one-third of its 450,000 unemployed workers

One third gone, two thirds to go!

df1985

Its getting rid of the generation that will work Ireland out of the mess we're in. educate them, give them skills.......then ship them out for nothing.crazy!

Toby Take a Bow

token101 wrote: »

Also gets people off the dole, decreasing the tax burden.

This is key, I believe. Absolutely short-sighted and will lead to huge problems down the line, but for a short-term strategy, it makes sense.

ejmaztec

It would be more helpful were they to create jobs here instead of in some other country. Leinster House Travel Agency.

token101

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

This is key, I believe. Absolutely short-sighted and will lead to huge problems down the line, but for a short-term strategy, it makes sense.

Why is it going to lead to long term problems? We've had emigration for generations and it's never caused huge problems for Irish society.

Guill

Dravokivich wrote: »

Irish politics = do what the Brits did.

Wow, you're great craic.

billybudd

token101 wrote: »

Why is it going to lead to long term problems? We've had emigration for generations and it's never caused huge problems for Irish society.

Ireland has always burdened other countries with its lack of initiative to create a self surviving state. quite ironic the xenophobia that is gowing here.

the groutch

would be better to deport the dole scroungers who have never worked a day in their life

token101

ejmaztec wrote: »

It would be more helpful were they to create jobs here instead of in some other country. Leinster House Travel Agency.

I'm sure they're open to suggestions there!

Logical Fallacy

LoL "People are not immigrating to find work, but if you want to find work you can go to Australia".

snubbleste

We promised you jobs in the Lisbon referendum, we did not specify where they'd be.

token101

billybudd wrote: »

Ireland has always burdened other countries with its lack of initiative to create a self surviving state. quite ironic the xenophobia that is gowing here.

There's no such thing as a self surviving state. Even North Korea trades with China. Burdened? How exactly? Canadian and Australian recruiters came here to recruit people less than a month ago! They're coming to us! The vast majority of people have no problem with others coming in to contribute.

Logical Fallacy

billybudd wrote: »

Ireland has always burdened other countries with its lack of initiative to create a self surviving state. quite ironic the xenophobia that is gowing here.

How is that ironic?

Why does nobody understand what "irony" is any more?

I blame that Canadian bint tbh.

Dravokivich

Guill wrote: »

Wow, you're great craic.

I am yeah.

Cork boy 55

Why don't we just cryogenically freeze the unemployed until jobs are available.

mackg

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

This is key, I believe. Absolutely short-sighted and will lead to huge problems down the line, but for a short-term strategy, it makes sense.

But they are only talking about temporary visas, how is people leaving short term going to cause problems (genuine question)?

Also when people talk about job creation, what sort of time scale would be expected in say the best case scenario to get let's say 100,000 jobs created?

Toby Take a Bow

token101 wrote: »

Why is it going to lead to long term problems? We've had emigration for generations and it's never caused huge problems for Irish society.

Brain drain would be a big problem. Lack of educated people remaining in the country to pay into pension funds. Lack of educated people to build indigenous industries which would play well for any future prosperity we may have.

mackg wrote: »

But they are only talking about temporary visas, how is people leaving short term going to cause problems (genuine question)?

I didn't see that it was short-term employment. There may be benefits, so, in that they gain the experience, but have to move back to Ireland.

Casillas

df1985 wrote: »

Its getting rid of the generation that will work Ireland out of the mess we're in. educate them, give them skills.......then ship them out for nothing.crazy!

Banana Republic without the Bananas.

Plenty of monkeys in the Dail though.

PCPhoto

token101 wrote: »

There's no such thing as a self surviving state. Even North Korea trades with China. Burdened? How exactly? Canadian and Australian recruiters came here to recruit people less than a month ago! They're coming to us! The vast majority of people have no problem with others coming in to contribute.

did you not read the OP - the minister asked the aussies to "relax" visa requirements so we can ship people over ....so they came to us...after we asked them to take some people (and what did we(our minister) offer in return???)

billybudd

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

How is that ironic?

Why does nobody understand what "irony" is any more?

I blame that Canadian bint tbh.

Irish people taking jobs in other countries and Irish people complaining about non nationals taking jobs here.

Seems ironic to me.

billybudd

token101 wrote: »

There's no such thing as a self surviving state. Even North Korea trades with China. Burdened? How exactly? Canadian and Australian recruiters came here to recruit people less than a month ago! They're coming to us! The vast majority of people have no problem with others coming in to contribute.

Self surviving as in creating employment that meets the countries population needs and not paying hundreds of millions per year to ex pats spread around the world in aide.