Magpie not interested

rossline123

Hi all spent some time and money building a ladder trap tried everything to lure the magpie in red meat whole eggs with it being located behind dairy farm tried dairy ration the area is plagued with magpie's its bit embarrassing the farmer is desperate to put dent in the numbers cant catch them in larson and im using an out of town maggy is it the time of year there mind is on nesting or they smart maggies any suggestions?

declan1980

rossline123 wrote: »

........any suggestions?

Start shooting them

Browning2010

rossline123 wrote: »

Hi all spent some time and money building a ladder trap tried everything to lure the magpie in red meat whole eggs with it being located behind dairy farm tried dairy ration the area is plagued with magpie's its bit embarrassing the farmer is desperate to put dent in the numbers cant catch them in larson and im using an out of town maggy is it the time of year there mind is on nesting or they smart maggies any suggestions?

AFAIK ladder traps are mainly used for catching rooks and jackdaws.

I don't see how larsen traps wouldnt work, perhaps your doing something wrong? Larsen traps are the most effective way of dealing with magpies.

You'll never shoot that many there too crafty.

270WIN

Hi rossline,

make sure that the trap springs are not too strong, i had this problem recently and the magpies were landing on the split sticks without tripping, i got smaller diameter dowels and away she went ...catching them like wildfire now!!

TriggerPL

rossline123 wrote: »

Hi all spent some time and money building a ladder trap tried everything to lure the magpie in red meat whole eggs with it being located behind dairy farm tried dairy ration the area is plagued with magpie's its bit embarrassing the farmer is desperate to put dent in the numbers cant catch them in larson and im using an out of town maggy is it the time of year there mind is on nesting or they smart maggies any suggestions?

where are you il come trap them for ya , luv getting me the magpies .

4200fps

Is there someone you know or on this that would give you a call bird to get you started? If not try putting a decoy mag in it and place a u caller beside him and hide and press number 5 or 8 on the remote and let the fun begin. Might work. Its an idea that's all. God loves a trier

pugw

4200fps wrote: »

Is there someone you know or on this that would give you a call bird to get you started? If not try putting a decoy mag in it and place a u caller beside him and hide and press number 5 or 8 on the remote and let the fun begin. Might work. Its an idea that's all. God loves a trier

+1

extremetaz

Likely have a couple of call birds spare at the homeplace if you're anywhere near north kildare? The auld boys usually keeps one or two to the side for exactly this purpose.

thekevin4540

I am in cork city and i had a larson trap set on top if my shed in my back garden and some one cut open my trap this morning and let out my call bird and i have a spare call bird in my shed if u want him im not going to use him

extremetaz

thekevin4540 wrote: »

some one cut open my trap this morning and let out my call bird

hate that!! :mad:

rossline123

Im in co limerick no prob getting call birds thanks for the offers the ladder trap works on a different principal the birds are attracted by the food inside hop down into it but cant fly out cause the rungs of ladder are certain width apart you dont need a call bird put ladder trap into web ye see what i mean

Birdnuts

thekevin4540 wrote: »

I am in cork city and i had a larson trap set on top if my shed in my back garden and some one cut open my trap this morning and let out my call bird

Had that happen to me a few times too - very annoying and hard to know if your dealing with someone who is ignorant of the law or just engaged in a random act of vandelism:mad:

patdahat

I had a larson with a magpie in it set under a nest for 4 day's and no way would he go into it he was flying over it all day building up his nest will set it again once there is a bit of noise in the nest. Leave the top off the ladder trap for a few days(3/4) to get the magpies used of feeding in it, then you should put the top back on it after dark, put in the call bird, then come the morning they should go down through the run's when they see thier budy ateing his breakfast.;)

Thomas Drennan

How often are you moving your trap if your not getting action every second day move your trap 200 yards could make a big diference,gust outside a ditch could be the difference , if that dont work change your call bird.

ssl

I hung a bird feeder for song birds nearby. All the activity around the feeder got the magpies worked up and they entered the trap

getz

ssl wrote: »

I hung a bird feeder for song birds nearby. All the activity around the feeder got the magpies worked up and they entered the trap

you must be carefull,in the UK magpies are a protected bird,and in ireland,the irish wildlife act [amendent]2000 says carrion crows and magpies can only be killed in a specified manor

Birdnuts

getz wrote: »

you must be carefull,in the UK magpies are a protected bird,and in ireland,the irish wildlife act [amendent]2000 says carrion crows and magpies can only be killed in a specified manor

I don't think they are protected in the UK - in any case they can be legally shot or trapped at any time of the year in this country according to the derogations on vermin bird species issued by the government. These are rolled over every 6 months or so - the one below is an example of one for Leinster but they are the same for the other provinces which is explained in the second link.

http://www.npws.ie/media/npws/publications/legaldocs/Declaration%20for%20Leinster%20Sept%202011.pdf

http://www.npws.ie/legislationandconventions/irishlaw/eubirdsdirectivederogations/

getz

Birdnuts wrote: »

I don't think they are protected in the UK - in any case they can be legally shot or trapped at any time of the year in this country according to the derogations on vermin bird species issued by the government. These are rolled over every 6 months or so - the one below is an example of one for Leinster but they are the same for the other provinces which is explained in the second link.

http://www.npws.ie/media/npws/publications/legaldocs/Declaration%20for%20Leinster%20Sept%202011.pdf

http://www.npws.ie/legislationandconventions/irishlaw/eubirdsdirectivederogations/

the information i have for ireland is that only an authorised person may kill them at any time of the year or destroy their nests,a authorised person would be the land owner or some one acting with permission of the land owner the use of poison is illegal in most cases,

Birdnuts

getz wrote: »

the information i have for ireland is that only an authorised person may kill them at any time of the year or destroy their nests,a authorised person would be the land owner or some one acting with permission of the land owner the use of poison is illegal in most cases,

Obviously the landowner has to give permission for trapping or any other activity on their land, in any case most lads will be trapping mags on their own property. The use of poison has now been totally banned for the control of crows and magpies, as indicated by the links to the derogations I posted earlier. Only cage traps (Larsen, Ladder etc.) and shooting are now legal to control these species.