Irish Qualified THs

liam12989

Ok so who have we thats actually IQed that plays TH

Ross
Buckley
Loughney
Macklin
Fitzpatrick
Archer
Andress
Hagan
Mcgrath

CIARAN_BOYLE

Leinster
Ross
Hagan
McGrath (primarily LH)

Munster
Archer
Ryan

Ulster
Fitzpatrick
Cronin
Macklin

Connacht
Loughney (primarily LH)
Maguire

In England
Andress (Exeter)
Buckley (Sale)
Burke-Flynn (Doncaster)

In Australia
Ruaidhri Murphy (Brumbies has declared for Aus but still IQ)

In Italy
Dave Ryan (Lazio Rugby)
Tim Ryan (Cavalieri Prato)

Soon to Qualify
November 2013 Borlase and Ah You
October 2014 White

Samich

All this talk because of one almighty failure. Had we won v England would all this talk be going on? This talk should have been happening aaaaages ago.

marienbad

Samich wrote: »

All this talk because of one almighty failure. Had we won v England would all this talk be going on? This talk should have been happening aaaaages ago.

All this talk did happen ages ago, but we did nothing about it and so to This Paddy's day disaster .

Now we must do something about it before someone is seriously injured . I suspect the solution is going to takes years and some more heavy beatings ahead of us.

Fireball07

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Leinster
Ross
Hagan
McGrath (primarily LH)

Munster
Archer
Ryan

Ulster
Fitzpatrick
Cronin
Macklin

Connacht
Loughney
Maguire

In England
Andress

Soon to Qualify
November 2013 Borlase and Ah You
October 2014 White

You forgot, eh..... Mushy Buckley

GerM

Ronan Loughney has played probably the majority of his rugby at loosehead and covers both sides. He plays for Connacht though so is out of the picture essentially.

dougieruggie

Tim Ryan?

*runs*

CIARAN_BOYLE

Fireball07 wrote: »

You forgot, eh..... Mushy Buckley

hoping that everyone else will too

but I fixed it

jacothelad

Fireball07 wrote: »

You forgot, eh..... Mushy Buckley

I don't think he did.

dougieruggie

Oh and Ruaidhri Murphy playing for Brumbies in Australia.

irishbucsfan

Samich wrote: »

All this talk because of one almighty failure. Had we won v England would all this talk be going on? This talk should have been happening aaaaages ago.

We've been criticising Kidney's selections at TH on this board for years now.

irishbucsfan

dougieruggie wrote: »

Oh and Ruaidhri Murphy playing for Brumbies in Australia.

He wants to declare for Australia though so probably not one to consider.

Fireball07

GerM wrote: »

Ronan Loughney has played probably the majority of his rugby at loosehead and covers both sides. He plays for Connacht though so is out of the picture essentially.

I think Loughney is worth a look tbh. Whenever I've seen him, he's looked fairly solid in the scrum and Connacht even won a penalty try against Toulouse with him at tighthead (that is my dominating memory of him, it tends to wipe out any bad scrummaging days he has had). But...I haven't seen all of Connacht's games this season, but I've still seen a good few and I don't think I've ever seen him destroyed in the scrum. And as he can actually play both sides, he's got to be worth trying at international level, at least. Might never be class but may fill a gap until we develop a few of the young lads.

dougieruggie

Royce-Burke Flynn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X00UN6NAsqA

Samich

irishbucsfan wrote: »

We've been criticising Kidney's selections at TH on this board for years now.

I didn't see any threads on it though on as large a scale as this, also people on here complaining about it won't get things done unfortunately

CIARAN_BOYLE

dougieruggie wrote: »

Oh and Ruaidhri Murphy playing for Brumbies in Australia.

Aussie qualified and wants to play for them

Speaking of Aussie qualified there was rumours about this guy a while back
http://www.waratahs.com.au/Waratahs/HSBCWaratahs/SuperRugbySquad/PlayerPage/tabid/182/playerid/28/Default.aspx
It says in his profile that he spent 2007 in Ireland. Someone on MFs claimed that it was to visit his Irish grandparents so he could be IQ

Samich

Also Healy has escaped the blame for England, he was shocking in the scrums I thought.

Tox56

Samich wrote: »

Also Healy has escaped the blame for England, he was shocking in the scrums I thought.

I thought he was being unfairly blamed by some. He did what he could, but there was litterally nothing he could do when Court was being destroyed like he was.

dougieruggie

Wheres that Ulster prop from the AIL gone that Leinster signed?

Anyone remember who I am talking about? Can't remember if he was a tighthead or not.

CIARAN_BOYLE

dougieruggie wrote: »

Wheres that Ulster prop from the AIL gone that Leinster signed?

Anyone remember who I am talking about? Can't remember if he was a tighthead or not.

Shawe? One year deal only, had injury issues from last march and was released. 33 next month, has gone back to ballymena I think

Samich

Let's not forget this either, John Hayes was tighthead, Hook was the main one saying we're fecked when he's finished, Ross comes along and does an equally good job.

Ronan O' Gara was outhalf for years, they said we have no good outhalves coming up, we'd have paddy wallace. Sexton arrives.

Basically players pop up out of the blue so expect the same to happen when ross is nearing the end. Also COurt didn't do badly in any other game he played when he came on.

phog

Samich wrote: »

Also Healy has escaped the blame for England, he was shocking in the scrums I thought.

Will you stop, how could anyone rate Ireland's scrum once Ross went off, all 8 of them were poor in one sense.

Blackheath

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Aussie qualified and wants to play for them

Speaking of Aussie qualified there was rumours about this guy a while back
http://www.waratahs.com.au/Waratahs/HSBCWaratahs/SuperRugbySquad/PlayerPage/tabid/182/playerid/28/Default.aspx
It says in his profile that he spent 2007 in Ireland. Someone on MFs claimed that it was to visit his Irish grandparents so he could be IQ

I see that Murphy has come off the bench a few times so far this season. He has played at both TH & LH so it is a pity that he wants to play for Australia.

RoundBox11

Blackheath wrote: »

I see that Murphy has come off the bench a few times so far this season. He has played at both TH & LH so it is a pity that he wants to play for Australia.

Pity Stephen Moore didnt declare for Ireland either! :P


I think once this new rule og 1 NIQ Tighthead and 1 NIQ Loosehead comes in, we'll see Afoa staying in Ulster and DuPreez in Munster. If so, Archer will have to start for Munster.

Personally i think the IRFU should have Greg Feek working will as many Irish potentially test level props as possible this summer. Then they could really get a good look at their basic skill levels

jacothelad

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

RoundBox11

jacothelad wrote: »

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

Typical Frankie :P

I do like Archer, i think he has potential considering he's still young. I'd pick Hagan or Loughney ahead of him at TH tho right now

thomond2006

jacothelad wrote: »

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

*insert facepalm here*

Sheahan really has no shame.

the al kid

I know he is still very young but how is Martin Moore progressing? -archtypical th prop.Was very injury prone -esp shoulder,
.Impressed me a lot last year in the Under 20 (I think) internationals -very good technique and useful around the pitch as well.

Al

Podge_irl

jacothelad wrote: »

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

This on Against the Head? I missed the first 20 minutes.

That is so hilariously misguided it would be funny if he wasn't paid to give his opinion.

Is Archer one of his clients?

Tox56

This is the problem, people like Thornley, Sheahan and Hook have a strong influence general public opinion on rugby, and they are serving up rubbish like this. People who have a passing interest in the game have no reason to doubt their opinion.

jacothelad

jacothelad wrote: »

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

jaysis. Did he miss the Wolfhounds game?

tolosenc

Deleted User wrote: »

jaysis. Did he miss the Wolfhounds game?

Archer in that game made Court look like he was doing a solid job on Saturday.

Fireball07

RoundBox11 wrote: »

Pity Stephen Moore didnt declare for Ireland either! :P


I think once this new rule og 1 NIQ Tighthead and 1 NIQ Loosehead comes in, we'll see Afoa staying in Ulster and DuPreez in Munster. If so, Archer will have to start for Munster.

Personally i think the IRFU should have Greg Feek working will as many Irish potentially test level props as possible this summer. Then they could really get a good look at their basic skill levels

It still frightens me from a Munster POV.

Obviously we might find a TH prop who can scrummage consistently at the highest level, I'm hoping Archer can reach that level but at the moment, he's a long, long way from that. We take out Botha and our scrum collapses. And what happened to Ireland on Saturday could happen to Munster in every HC game against a decent front row.

We have to start developing tightheads but we can't just magic them up out of thin air.

Neil3030

Podge_irl wrote: »

This on Against the Head? I missed the first 20 minutes.

That is so hilariously misguided it would be funny if he wasn't paid to give his opinion.

Is Archer one of his clients?

My thoughts exactly.

RoundBox11

tolosenc wrote: »

Archer in that game made Court look like he was doing a solid job on Saturday.

Ah come off it now :P

Archer was on the backfoot in the wolfhounds game but he wasn't marmelized like some people were going on like. Also taking into account the fact that the english front row in that match far outclassed Wilkinson, Varley and Archer on paper coming into the match anyway

GerM

Archer is one of his clients, yes. He should be banned from RTE for bringing punditry into disrepute. I'd walk away from a drunk bloke in the pub if he suggested that. A professional pundit chancing it should be told there's no place for him on television any longer. He'd sell his soul for a penny.

ed7890

tolosenc wrote: »

Archer in that game made Court look like he was doing a solid job on Saturday.

Except without giving away any penalty tries...

Tox56

ed7890 wrote: »

Except without giving away any penalty tries...

I get the feeling he wasn't being completely serious.

Podge_irl

GerM wrote: »

Archer is one of his clients, yes. He should be banned from RTE for bringing punditry into disrepute. I'd walk away from a drunk bloke in the pub if he suggested that. A professional pundit chancing it should be told there's no place for him on television any longer. He'd sell his soul for a penny.

I'm pretty tempted to write a letter of complaint to RTÉ. That's beyond taking the piss.

RoundBox11

Tox56 wrote: »

I get the feeling he wasn't being completely serious.

Or didnt actually watch the wolfhounds game and is jumping on the old bandwagon? :P

thomond2006

GerM wrote: »

Archer is one of his clients, yes. He should be banned from RTE for bringing punditry into disrepute. I'd walk away from a drunk bloke in the pub if he suggested that. A professional pundit chancing it should be told there's no place for him on television any longer. He'd sell his soul for a penny.

Because of this he's actually worse than Hook IMO.

Tox56

Podge_irl wrote: »

I'm pretty tempted to write a letter of complaint to RTÉ. That's beyond taking the piss.

Get on to them about Hook while you're at it.

Fireball07

Tox56 wrote: »

Get on to them about Hook while you're at it.

I'm sure they get plenty of complaints about Hook over the years. Tbh I don't think it's all down to him. His opinions seem much more reasonable on the radio... I think RTE tell him to be controversial.

Neil3030

I'm sure there's a case there for RTE breaking some mode of commercial law by allowing him plug his players like that. Were I an agent I'd certainly be looking into it. It's a complete farce.

Fishooks12

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'm sure there's a case there for RTE breaking some mode of commercial law by allowing him plug his players like that. Were I an agent I'd certainly be looking into it. It's a complete farce.

There isn't but it's horribly biased

molloyjh

Just watching Against the Head now and in fairness to Sheehan he was saying that younger lads need to get a shot. He named Archer along with Hagan and Loughney. So it wasn't just Archer he was talking about.

What amazed me more than anything was that they didn't talk about the coaching of the Irish team in any way shape or form. They didn't talk about the substitutions. It was all about the TH prop issue and nothing more. Very light in terms of analysis.

Neil3030

molloyjh wrote: »

Just watching Against the Head now and in fairness to Sheehan he was saying that younger lads need to get a shot. He named Archer along with Hagan and Loughney. So it wasn't just Archer he was talking about.

What amazed me more than anything was that they didn't talk about the coaching of the Irish team in any way shape or form. They didn't talk about the substitutions. It was all about the TH prop issue and nothing more. Very light in terms of analysis.

When does The Breakdown air? Has that been on yet since the England match? I usually have a fair bit of time for Franno and Williams, though they tend to agree with each other a bit too much. I think someone like Foley would make a fantastic addition to the show.

/tangent

CIARAN_BOYLE

Neil3030 wrote: »

When does The Breakdown air? Has that been on yet since the England match? I usually have a fair bit of time for Franno and Williams, though they tend to agree with each other a bit too much. I think someone like Foley would make a fantastic addition to the show.

/tangent

It was on Sunday and repeated earlier today. If you keep an eye on setanta you will most likely see it scheduled to be repeated again.

molloyjh

Neil3030 wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

Just watching Against the Head now and in fairness to Sheehan he was saying that younger lads need to get a shot. He named Archer along with Hagan and Loughney. So it wasn't just Archer he was talking about.

What amazed me more than anything was that they didn't talk about the coaching of the Irish team in any way shape or form. They didn't talk about the substitutions. It was all about the TH prop issue and nothing more. Very light in terms of analysis.

When does The Breakdown air? Has that been on yet since the England match? I usually have a fair bit of time for Franno and Williams, though they tend to agree with each other a bit too much. I think someone like Foley would make a fantastic addition to the show.

/tangent

It was on today. Missed it though. It's on again at 5am on Wednesday morning!

PhatPiggins

jacothelad wrote: »

Frankie has just declared that Archer should have been on the bench for Ireland. If it wasn't so tragic and stupid it would be hysterically funny.

Archer is one of Frankie's clients, shock.

He'll be getting MOTM awards from Frankie including in games he didn't play !

Neil3030

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

It was on Sunday and repeated earlier today. If you keep an eye on setanta you will most likely see it scheduled to be repeated again.

Thanks, don't live in Ireland unfortunately.