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household chages-ministers exempt

  • 19-03-2012 7:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭


    See link---big bully Phil has exempted the residental homes of ministers from this charge.
    Ministers earning close ot €200K are exempt whereas old age pensoners on state pension only are expected to pay.
    why are ministers residental homes exempt? this is a serious case of taxes are only for the little people.

    another stupid own goal by the government like their decision to allow ministers private cars use the bus lanes.

    If ministers are exempt nobody should pay this tax.

    The media need to press the government on why ministers are exempt.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭RGS




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭littlejp


    Disgraceful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    littlejp wrote: »
    Disgraceful

    Would be, if it were actually true, which its not.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/act/pub/0036/sec0002.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 casandra


    ORWELLIAN !!!!!! The Pigs have definitly taken over the farmyard !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    This Shower are really taking the biscuit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    FFS, read the links before jumping on the bandwagon. The OP is mistaken: the charge is waived for properties vested in a Minister, ie, state property, not the minister's own private house!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭RGS


    Duiske wrote: »
    Would be, if it were actually true, which its not.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/act/pub/0036/sec0002.html

    The reply given by the minister on 13 march 2012 stated residental property owned by a minister of the government.
    This appears to be an amendment to the act.

    The act states buildings vested in a minister, which relates to government offices etc.

    Either Hogan does not know the act or he was making an amendment to the act.
    Needs clarification form the minister


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    murphaph wrote: »
    FFS, read the links before jumping on the bandwagon. The OP is mistaken: the charge is waived for properties vested in a Minister, ie, state property, not the minister's own private house!

    That's not what his reply said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    I think the property of the office of the Minister, rather than of the individual who holds that office, is what's meant here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    That's not what his reply said.
    Depends which way one chooses to read it. My passport says it's the property of the Minister for Foreign Affairs (actual wording:"This passport remains the property of the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ireland", but I don't think it personally belongs to Gilmore, rather the office he holds.

    Given the wording inside a passport, Hogan's response seems consistent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    11 days of false propaganda ahead. The head of the "Household Charge Collection Agency," Jackie Maguire has been peddling statistics like there is no tomorrow. She thinks that over 1.4 million households will register before the end of March. Here are some interesting details:

    1. Jackie Maguire (JM) says the household charge website activity is up 2 fold
    FACT :The site traffic is in decline month on month
    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/householdcharge.ie#

    alexa is like the TAM or JNLR of web traffic. external audience size
    sampling based on browser toolbar user stats.

    2. JM says that registrations have seen “significant increase over the last
    ten days”
    not true

    average day rate prior to Feb 20th was 2115
    average day rate 20 – 27 Feb was 2937


    That is a 0.3 fold increase. which is not significant.

    3. JM & morning ireland talk of 1.6M needing to register. but
    previously JM said and knows it is 1.8M
    so they are not 1.4M off the total they are 1.66M off

    4. JM says general trend is upward. true. but it only amounts to 30%
    increase on extremely flat figures.
    if there was a 1000% increase (ten fold) from now to March 31st then
    there would still be 700,000 not registered.
    And right now they have a 30% increase.

    Projected non registered at current rate is 1,596,562 source
    http://cahwt.net/calc/

    ***

    Don't give into the FG-Labour hype and propaganda. You saw where that got you in the last election.

    Special exemptions to pay advisers €150,000 a year, Ruairi Quinn fiddling his mileage expenses, James Reilly paying €604 on coffee machines for his offic as outlined here:

    James Reilly spent €624 of taxpayers’ money on two deluxe Bewley’s coffee machines — one for each of his offices. One has been installed in his office in the health department at Hawkins House while the other sits in his Leinster House rooms.

    His spokesman said the minister needed the machines because he worked long hours and the Dáil restaurant and department canteen were not always open.

    * He has received tax breaks for maintaining his 13-bed family mansion in Co Offaly. He received tax breaks for six years running to help pay for renovations to the three-storey Laughton House, which is surrounded by 150 acres of farm and woodland.

    Oh and by the way, the chairman of the RTÉ board is Tom Savage. Tom who is married to Terry Prone and is Anton Savage of Today FM's Dad is also a director of "The Communications Clinic."

    "So what" you might say.

    Well, here's what:

    James Reilly, the health minister, paid a public relations company €15,000 for advice on health reform as well as for speech writing advice, his office confirmed.

    He paid the money last year to the Communications Clinic, whose directors are PR consultant Terry Prone and Tom Savage, the chairman of the RTÉ board.


    **

    I wonder if the Chairman of the board of RTÉ worries about whether or not a customer of his is criticised on RTÉ programmes?

    I wonder if Terry Prone is nervous of criticising a valued customer of hers in her columns in the Examiner or when she is giving her expert opinion on various RTÉ programmes?

    Vote NO to the household charge and stop funding this casino.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    MOD NOTE:

    This was addressed in another thread on the front page.

    Closed.


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