Irish Rail Tickets given new look!

dublinman1990

Did anyone get a new look adult single ticket on the DART or any other train with Irish Rail?

I got a Adult Single ticket which was a black and blue ticket instead of a dark and light blue one. The ticket which I got today was from Dún Laoghaire to Blackrock.

Here is an example of the outgoing design.

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5vwKd67WAx5KdP3BKTMF3lpu38J3uMR7CrLpSyobb06-Q-jpOCg

Here is a snapshot of the new ticket below.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hufwh80ol5I/T2ZeFeA8PMI/AAAAAAAAAA0/X8ahwwv81fU/w500-h375-k/Picture%2B001.jpg

Any feedback on it is welcome!

n900guy

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Did anyone get a new look adult single ticket on the DART or any other train with Irish Rail?

I got a Adult Single ticket which was a black and blue ticket instead of a dark and light blue one. The ticket which I got today was from Dún Laoghaire to Blackrock.

Here is an example of the outgoing design.

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5vwKd67WAx5KdP3BKTMF3lpu38J3uMR7CrLpSyobb06-Q-jpOCg

Here is a snapshot of the new ticket below.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hufwh80ol5I/T2ZeFeA8PMI/AAAAAAAAAA0/X8ahwwv81fU/w500-h375-k/Picture%2B001.jpg

Any feedback on it is welcome!

- barely legible tickertape-style dotmatrix-era printing remains.
- no clearly identifiable single or return logo as in Switzerland or Netherlands (e.g., -->, or <--> ). Instead a faded blue background with large white letters successfully being background, unimportant information

Cookie_Monster

n900guy wrote: »

- no clearly identifiable single or return logo as in Switzerland or Netherlands (e.g., -->, or <--> ).

it's got single in huge letters written on it....

but poor design overall IMO

Run_to_da_hills

Any chance of a change with the purple tickets?

dublinman1990

This the only ticket that got changed in terms of presentation so far. The new design will be rolled out possibly up to mid year IMO as the other tickets I seen now are the same.

AltAccount

Seems pretty illegible. Why the resistance to printing on more than one line?

icdg

Given that the 1995 logo was *still* on these tickets in its unaltered (pre-CIE 2000) form they were probably due a change.

Although having said that, British rail tickets are almost unchanged since the mid-1980s (and despite the whole privatization process) - the only change to the face was the January 1996 removal of the text "British Rail" and its replacement with "Rail Settlement Plan". They haven't changed the face since (although they play with the reverse every so often).

The one line thing is a DART thing only and was the case with the old stock too.

dublinman1990

AltAccount wrote: »

Seems pretty illegible. Why the resistance to printing on more than one line?

This is the usual format on the single ticket. A return ticket will have about a total of 4 to 5 lines on it.

dowlingm

from / to etc not in Irish on old tickets. IE in a panic to stave of a Comisinear Teanga complaint?

AngryLips

n900guy wrote: »

- barely legible tickertape-style dotmatrix-era printing remains.
- no clearly identifiable single or return logo as in Switzerland or Netherlands (e.g., -->, or <--> ). Instead a faded blue background with large white letters successfully being background, unimportant information

OMG, it's a just a train ticket for god's sake. Get over it.

mickydoomsux

AngryLips wrote: »

OMG, it's a just a train ticket for god's sake. Get over it.

I agree with you but this is the absolute worst subforum on Boards to make that statement

There was a thread on here a short while ago about discrimination based on the color of a ticket. Seriosuly.

Ellis Dee

I couldn't care less what the tickets look like. Just as long as the words "Social Welfare Return" are printed on them and the price is still "€0.0000".:):)

But now I've heard they are thinking of taking the Free Travel Pass off us.:mad::mad:

dowlingm

Ellis Dee wrote: »

I couldn't care less what the tickets look like. Just as long as the words "Social Welfare Return" are printed on them and the price is still "€0.0000".:):)

But now I've heard they are thinking of taking the Free Travel Pass off us.:mad::mad:

Ah yes, the pass worth 4900 Euro retail
http://www.taxsaver.ie/Ticket-Types/Annual-Tickets/CIE-All-Services-Irish-Rail-Dublin-Bus--Bus-Eireann/ - they don't even let you bring a friend for that money!

dublinman1990

dowlingm wrote: »

Ah yes, the pass worth 4900 Euro retail
http://www.taxsaver.ie/Ticket-Types/Annual-Tickets/CIE-All-Services-Irish-Rail-Dublin-Bus--Bus-Eireann/ - they don't even let you bring a friend for that money!

She was talking about a travel pass from the DSP. Entirely different from a taxsaver ticket.

thomasj

dublinman1990 wrote: »

dowlingm wrote: »

Ah yes, the pass worth 4900 Euro retail
http://www.taxsaver.ie/Ticket-Types/Annual-Tickets/CIE-All-Services-Irish-Rail-Dublin-Bus--Bus-Eireann/ - they don't even let you bring a friend for that money!

She was talking about a travel pass from the DSP. Entirely different from a taxsaver ticket.

The only difference is nearly 5000 euros!

(well more if you count the friend concession)

foggy_lad

thomasj wrote: »

The only difference is nearly 5000 euros!

(well more if you count the friend concession)

There may be other differences like the holder of one being able to work full time and afford things like a car while the other may be incapable of working or even walking any great distance through illness or disability etc and living on a disability pension is not as easy as people think. being ill/disabled brings costs which people don't think about when they tar all free travel pass holders with the scum brush.

thomasj

foggy_lad wrote: »

thomasj wrote: »

The only difference is nearly 5000 euros!

(well more if you count the friend concession)

There may be other differences like the holder of one being able to work full time and afford things like a car while the other may be incapable of working or even walking any great distance through illness or disability etc and living on a disability pension is not as easy as people think. being ill/disabled brings costs which people don't think about when they tar all free travel pass holders with the scum brush.

i do agree to a certain extent.

Was this pass brought in with esential or luxury transport needs in mind. I bumped into a guy one day on an intercity train back to dublin. He had a considerable amount of alcohol on him and was being a small bit rowdy but otherwise he seemed like a nice guy. He was in his 30s and had the disability pass. He had travelled across the country manys a time through his pass. Do you think if the travel options outside of his rveryday travel needs were taken away or offered instead at a discounted rate would he take that offer? I would think probably not!

foggy_lad

thomasj wrote: »

i do agree to a certain extent.

Was this pass brought in with esential or luxury transport needs in mind. I bumped into a guy one day on an intercity train back to dublin. He had a considerable amount of alcohol on him and was being a small bit rowdy but otherwise he seemed like a nice guy. He was in his 30s and had the disability pass. He had travelled across the country manys a time through his pass. Do you think if the travel options outside of his rveryday travel needs were taken away or offered instead at a discounted rate would he take that offer? I would think probably not!

This person was most probably suffering from some degree of mental illness which would render him incapable of normal work and probably he is living in council accommodation which he can't stand to be in alone due to his illness so he uses the free travel pass to travel the country instead of doing damage to himself or his house or others property requiring Gardai intervention hospitalisation and release after 72 hours etc, things are rarely as black and white as we can sometimes see them being.

This is a topic for another thread maybe? as it has little to do with the changes being introduced to Irish Rail Dart and commuter tickets.

parsi

foggy_lad wrote: »

thomasj wrote: »

i do agree to a certain extent.

Was this pass brought in with esential or luxury transport needs in mind. I bumped into a guy one day on an intercity train back to dublin. He had a considerable amount of alcohol on him and was being a small bit rowdy but otherwise he seemed like a nice guy. He was in his 30s and had the disability pass. He had travelled across the country manys a time through his pass. Do you think if the travel options outside of his rveryday travel needs were taken away or offered instead at a discounted rate would he take that offer? I would think probably not!

This person was most probably suffering from some degree of mental illness which would render him incapable of normal work and probably he is living in council accommodation which he can't stand to be in alone due to his illness so he uses the free travel pass to travel the country instead of doing damage to himself or his house or others property requiring Gardai intervention hospitalisation and release after 72 hours etc, things are rarely as black and white as we can sometimes see them being.

This is a topic for another thread maybe? as it has little to do with the changes being introduced to Irish Rail Dart and commuter tickets.

Or he could be an aggressive alcoholic who picks fights with folks, upsets kids and occasionally gets thrown off the train when travelling to visit his brother in whatever prison he's in that week.

We can all spin an imaginary backstory that suits whatever point we want to make.

But seriously - is a public train a suitable place to be used to treat mental illness in the absence of any onboard healthcare professionals ?

dowlingm

TO BE CLEAR - my comment above was not intended to mean that all free travellers are spongers etc., but the reality is that the transport companies only get 100 euros or something per FTP holder whereas Joe Soap must pay a staggering sum for equivalent freedom of movement, and only less if his/her employer chooses to sign up under the ridiculous Taxsaver (I would prefer a system where ALL taxpayers can take advantage regardless of employer preference or indeed employment status). Therefore a pass which involves no co-payment and imposes no restrictions on reasonable use must by its nature be something which is up for scrutiny when so many other State services are being butchered by Austerity. Some of these butchered services will be ones the FTP holders are currently travelling to!

Replacement by smart cards which carry a maximum monthly value or by a limited number of travel warrants must be on the table.

foggy_lad

parsi wrote: »

Or he could be an aggressive alcoholic who picks fights with folks, upsets kids and occasionally gets thrown off the train when travelling to visit his brother in whatever prison he's in that week.

We can all spin an imaginary backstory that suits whatever point we want to make.

But seriously - is a public train a suitable place to be used to treat mental illness in the absence of any onboard healthcare professionals ?

You should be asking the department of health and the HSE about whether their Care in the community program is really working or should be scrapped and the mentally ill can be shoved back into the mental asylums behind 12foot high walls.

successive governments have used public transport as a replacement for what used to be day wards in mental hospitals where patients can come and go freely but in the hospital set-up nobody minded that they were all mad.

It probably works out cheaper to give free travel than to actually care for the mentally ill.