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Oscar Nominee

  • 15-03-2012 8:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭


    Martin Pipe Conditional Race 4.40

    This is one that Ive been waiting for. Wasnt sure it was going to run here - thought he might have been kept for a more valuable novice later in the season. I was really impressed with the way that he stayed on after jumping sloppily at Haydock behind Cinders and Ashes. Looked out of it but finished very eyecatchingly especially after making a balls of the last. Screamed Neptune to me at the time, but Henderson had other plans with Simonsig.

    http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video/Racing/0,27770,480036,00.html

    He jumped much better on the better ground at Doncaster where confidently ridden but again found lots for pressure to win going away over a distance again too short.

    As I said I think he is a graded horse and even though he is a little green for such a competitive handicap. I think that he will end up in far better races than handicaps and I think 12/1 is a very fair price. Ultimately I see him in 3m races, but like Sir Des Champs last year, I think he is a class above handicapper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Anthony Bromley seemed to indicate in a preview that Henderson's other horse, Molotof, had a very good chance and would have been in the Neptune had they not thought so much of Simonsig. I suppose if the market indicates that Oscar Nominee is their preferred runner then he probably has a great chance.

    Do you still fancy Salisify at his current price btw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Morgans


    And Henderson was very quick to talk up Open Hearted as well in his stable preview on RUK. Another of the subliminal reasons why I didnt think he would run here I suppose.

    Salsify still looks the right type for me. I don't think Chapoturgeon or Barbers Shop will get home. Roulez Cool is the one that I think is the danger. Salsify still a clear selection for me, but the value that was in the price a couple of weeks ago isnt quite as obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Although Smad Place gave the form of Bourne a massive boost today. His price could look quite silly after the race tomorrow. It's a tricky little race.

    I have Chapoturgen backed at 8's to win on the basis that if he stays he'll win but whether he will is a big doubt. I'll probably place lay him aswell. I might go with Salisify each way, not many others appeal to me. A few bookies paying 4 places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    I am struggling to find a bet tomorrow and with the Martin Pipe I worked my way down through the prices until I saw this one. He looks like he could be value at his current price. The step up in trip and getting out of that heavy ground could be a significant angle. His last run was a definite indicator of his trip requirements. went from 4l off the pace under pressure to 4l clear on the line. However weak the race, the second that day beat a field 7l next time out. But the real form is obviously behind Cinders and Ashes even though CaA beat him fairly easily.

    It's the only reasonable angle I can find before the race starts tomorrow. Don't think an outsider will win this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Didn't realise there was a thread for this horse.
    I fancy this one myself, crying out for the trip. Big bet on :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    People getting carried away with the smad place form with bourne. Bourne was off a fetherweight and was getting 29lbs. No doubt smad has improved since and bourne is taking on other well hanicapped horses now. Would rather back something at a bigger price myself. Another oscar nominee backer here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Not to mention Smad Place's run was over 3 miles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,023 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    10 to 1 with pp worth a e/w bet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Some ride that never went a yard and still placed, david bass just went up massively in my estimations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Always a stayer. Thought we would have won, but missed the gap coming down to the last. RSA next year not out of the question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    I thought he was poor on him. If he followed the winner up the inside he'd have won yet he pulled him across to the outside.
    I know he was never travelling but to switch a horse that was staying and closing like that was silly. Raging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Horse wasnt quick enough to get the gap - had he got the gap inside the winner, he may have won but would be smack bang in the middle of the interference after the last. Shame. Jockey didnt make a difference, should be commended for keeping the mount going.


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