Bizarre calls for abolition of the national park service by turf cutter supporter

robp

A Galway County Councillor is calling for the abolition of the National Parks and Wildlife Service.

Fine Gael Councillor Jimmy McClearn claims the NPWS has not done enough to help turf cutters affected by the ban on cutting on raised bogs.

Twelve bog complexes across County Galway are impacted by an EU directive which prevents cuttings in special areas of conservation.

The government has offered a compensation package for those who agree to relocate.

Is this for real? They are pretty much saying "ah sure get rid of those national parks. They tried to preserve the bogs so we don't like em. We'll make a few bob cutting the peat there anyway"
How can these people be taken seriously? Their bottom line is making a few euros at any environmental cost. If they cared about tradition they would be cutting turf by hand with a slean not industrial hoppers. Yet our government negotiates with these muppets and instead of a generous compensation scheme they will try to bend and twist Irish and EU law so they can coninue their profiteering.

Why as a country are we so adverse to seeing the national interest at times. Why is the conservation lobby so weak here? Is all to ironic because the natural environment is one of the few well rated assets from a tourism perspective.

Ellis Dee

You only need look around Ireland for a few minutes to see what a hames short-sighted me feinism and pure animal ignorance has made of the place.:mad:

Enda Kenny really needs to have a good look at the flakes within his party. Far too many of them are going solo with silly/repulsive/downright idiotic statements and actions that tend to reflect not only on the party as a whole, but also on the country ---:eek:

Other examples include that racist mayor in Naas, Darren Scutter or something if I recall correctly, and then that junior minister Loosegob Cretin, who is pushing the agenda of the homophobic, far-right catholic Iona Institute ---

Time for some discipline within the ranks of the fine ...:D

Frank Black

robp wrote: »

Why is the conservation lobby so weak here? Is all to ironic because the natural environment is one of the few well rated assets from a tourism perspective.

If anything, the nutters in the conservation lobby are given far too much consideration in this country, if they had thier way, we'd never have built a single stretch of motorway. An Taisce opposed at Oral Heraing every single mototrway scheme we built over the last 10years. Motorways, which have saved 100's of lives already as can be seen from our falling road deaths.

We have to put up with Shell to Sea campaigns, nutters on the Hill of Tara, Glen of the Downs crusties for years, costing the State millions.

As a country, we should tell them to all get ****ed!

doomed

The goose that laid the golden eggs must have been Irish. We'd have eaten the little bugger on page 1.

robp

black francis wrote: »

If anything, the nutters in the conservation lobby are given far too much consideration in this country, if they had thier way, we'd never have built a single stretch of motorway. An Taisce opposed at Oral Heraing every single mototrway scheme we built over the last 10years. Motorways, which have saved 100's of lives already as can be seen from our falling road deaths.

We have to put up with Shell to Sea campaigns, nutters on the Hill of Tara, Glen of the Downs crusties for years, costing the State millions.

As a country, we should tell them to all get ****ed!

I'm afraid that’s a wild exaggeration. The vast majority of road schemes never had any protests. Some which did had a very successful resolutions for instance the protection of Ballyseedy Wood in Cork which previously was a neglected field earmarked for a road but now thanks to attention of rerouting is a developed as a community resource with scientifically important fauna simply because of the objection. Or I could cite the important Woodstown Viking site in Waterford.

Check your facts. As for Tara there were cries from universities and institutes around the round begging for an alternative. The consensus was it probable was a bad idea but it was too late to relocate it.

Cookie_Monster

You can't even see the N3 from the Hill of Tara...

If anything we need more national parks and especially trees. They look nice, offset our emissions and are a valuable commodity when managed properly.

Frank Black

robp wrote: »

I'm afraid that’s a wild exaggeration. The vast majority of road schemes never had any protests. Some which did had a very successful resolutions for instance the protection of Ballyseedy Wood in Cork which previously was a neglected field earmarked for a road but now thanks to attention of rerouting is a developed as a community resource with scientifically important fauna simply because of the objection. Or I could cite the important Woodstown Viking site in Waterford.

Check your facts. As for Tara there were cries from universities and institutes around the round begging for an alternative. The consensus was it probable was a bad idea but it was too late to relocate it.

Think you need to re-read my post and then check your facts - please tell me a single inter-urban road scheme where An Taisce didn't formally lodge an objection to An Bord Pleanala?

robp

black francis wrote: »

Think you need to re-read my post and then check your facts - please tell me a single inter-urban road scheme where An Taisce didn't formally lodge an objection to An Bord Pleanala?

I haven't looked at the An Bord Pleanala’s stats but I am arguing its unfair compare a Shell to Sea style protest with a statutory body that acts externally of politics. These protracted protests are extreme cases and are clearly the exception. If anything it is clear from the boom time years, it is how easy it is for local politics to interfere with proper planning. If anything we have learnt it was too lax. The fact is this process has had many great successes in the last 10 years.

robp

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

You can't even see the N3 from the Hill of Tara...

If anything we need more national parks and especially trees. They look nice, offset our emissions and are a valuable commodity when managed properly.

Regarding national parks. I couldn't agree more.
The is a seedling project to push for national peatlands park. Its a fantastic idea especially if it was on raised bog in the Midlands area as that region has far too few tourist attractions and no national park coverage at present. Their distribution oddly misses the region entirely. There is a real local support for it too but more pressure is needed.