JSB to JSA

LegacyUser

I'm currently in receipt of JSB and got a letter a couple of weeks ago saying I had to come into the office as my stamps where running out and I'd need to move on to JSA. I'm currently working part time so on the casual slips. Will there be any change to my payments from moving from JSB to JSA?

I'm planning on going in on Monday to sort this out. The thing is my local office is over 10 miles away and I have to arrange a lift over so would like to get this sorted in one visit if possible. What would I need to bring with me for this? Is it pretty straight forward?

I'll also be moving in a couple of weeks and this will mean I will be moving to a different catchment area. When should I inform the social welfare of this? And will there be any delay in my payments by doing so?

Thanks

mp22

As you are working you will be means tested for your JSA payment.

Before you move inform your local office that you are moving,when you go to you new office you will need proof of address (new one).

There is likely to be some delay during this process expect 1-2 weeks without payment.

Lugh Ildanach

If you have been working part-time, and are now considered a casual worker, then you may be able to re-qualify for your Jobseekers Benefit and therefore avoid Jobseekers Allowance and the means test!!!

To re-qualify for Jobseekers Benefit, you must have made 13 PRSI contributions since day 156 of your last Jobseekers Benefit claim. You must have the necessary contributions in the relevant years. For claims made in 2012, they will first look at your contribution record in 2010, but there are other ways of meeting the criteria if you don't have the required stamps for 2010 (see here for more details on prsi requirements - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/jobseekers_benefit.html#l1f4da

Usually you also have to have lost at least one day's employment, although this rule does not apply to casual workers.

Your rate of Jobseekers Benefit, if you re-qualify, will be based on your average wages in 2010. If you were earning more than 300 Euro/week in 2010 (even if you only worked one week in the year!), you'll get paid the full rate.

If you mention re-qualification at your meeting, they should be able to let you know whether you re-qualify.

eastbono

Just to clarify with regard to re-qualifying for jsb as a casual worker if your work pattern is the same for the last 13 weeks or in some cases 26 week period is used for calculation purposes then you will not re-qualify for jsb as you will not have had any substantial loss. AFAIK if you re-qualify then you will requalify at the personal rate you are currently on as the claim will link.

Lugh Ildanach

eastbono wrote: »

Just to clarify with regard to re-qualifying for jsb as a casual worker if your work pattern is the same for the last 13 weeks or in some cases 26 week period is used for calculation purposes then you will not re-qualify for jsb as you will not have had any substantial loss. AFAIK if you re-qualify then you will requalify at the personal rate you are currently on as the claim will link.

Casual workers are not subject to the substantive loss of employment rule.

However, if your work pattern remains the same, you may find that you are re-classified from a casual worker, in which case you will be subject to the substantive loss rules.

According to the Operational Guidelines, if you re-qualify, it is a new period of interruption of employment, and therefore a new claim, not a linked claim. You have to serve your 3 waiting days, and your rate would be paid at the rate based on your average wage in the new GCY, not the rate you got in your first claim.

eastbono

Lugh Ildanach wrote: »

Casual workers are not subject to the substantive loss of employment rule.

However, if your work pattern remains the same, you may find that you are re-classified from a casual worker, in which case you will be subject to the substantive loss rules.

According to the Operational Guidelines, if you re-qualify, it is a new period of interruption of employment, and therefore a new claim, not a linked claim. You have to serve your 3 waiting days, and your rate would be paid at the rate based on your average wage in the new GCY, not the rate you got in your first claim.

I disagree. If your working pattern is normally three days a week and your benefit exhausts you can re-qualify but a level will be applied to your claim in the case of you working a 3 day week for the last 13/26 weeks then you will have a level of 3 and if you work 3 days or more you will not receive payment.



Re-qualifying for Jobseeker's Benefit
If you have used up your entitlement to Jobseeker's Benefit (JB), you may re-qualify by working and paying the appropriate PRSI contributions for at least 13 weeks. If you are working and getting JB, as in the case of systematic short-time workers and some part-time workers, the 13 weeks paid contributions can begin once you have claimed JB for 156 days.

You must have suffered a substantial loss of employment to re-qualify for JB, unless you are a casual worker. If you have lost your job you will have suffered a substantial loss of employment. If you are a part-time or systematic short-time worker DSP will look at your pattern of employment over the last 13 weeks or another representative period to find out whether you have suffered a substantial loss of employment.

For example, if you are getting JB and working 3 days each week as a systematic short-time worker or a part-time worker and your employment pattern has not changed during the course of your JB claim, you will not have suffered a substantial loss of employment and will not re-qualify for Jobseeker’s Benefit. However, if your JB claim ends and your 3 day week working week is then reduced to a 2 day week, you will have suffered a substantial loss of employment and may re-qualify for Jobseeker’s Benefit.

There isnt an interruption... the claim links and there is no waiting period. The same applies if you are going from jsb to jsa.