Bike Value After Frame Repair

Snako

Recently got hit by a car, on my brand new "Specialized Tricross Sport Disc 2012", A fantastic bike I was thoroughly enjoying getting acquainted with,

The bike took a bit of a smash on the ground when I was hit, at first the damage looked superficial, but only a week later I had a proper investigation, and found one of the back drops was bent,

This seemed like a straightforward enough job for the bike shop man to repair, but my main concern lies with the value of the frame now that it has been bent and bent back,

My knowledge of these things is quite limited, but as far as I know if it was anyway similar to repairing frame type damage on a car, the value would be diminished substantially,

If anyone has an opinion or expert knowledge on this, your input would be much appreciated,

kirving

If it was only slightly bent, which I'm guessing it was since it took a while to notice, and the bike shop straightened it properly, I wouldn't be concerned from a strength point of view. Any remaining dents and I wouldn't be happy. If it looks good, and the geometry is correct, it's probably fine.

Chassis damage on a car is generally much more expensive and difficult to repair.

Snako

Ye, just has a few scratches, reason it took so long to notice was because I'v been out of cycling action,

took it out on Thursday and the back wheel came off half way up the road,

Just annoyed, what was recently brand new, is no longer, thanks to a negligent driver/fate

Idleater

Are you not claiming from the car's insurance?

kirving

Idleater wrote: »

Are you not claiming from the car's insurance?

For what, a new bike? If it's fixed, it's fixed. A car driver will get a bent chassis repaired by insurance, but won't be compensated if a potential buyer thinks a properly repaired car is worth less than before.

kenmc

Snako wrote: »

Recently got hit by a car, on my brand new "Specialized Tricross Sport Disc 2012", A fantastic bike I was thoroughly enjoying getting acquainted with,

The bike took a bit of a smash on the ground when I was hit, at first the damage looked superficial, but only a week later I had a proper investigation, and found one of the back drops was bent,

This seemed like a straightforward enough job for the bike shop man to repair, but my main concern lies with the value of the frame now that it has been bent and bent back,

My knowledge of these things is quite limited, but as far as I know if it was anyway similar to repairing frame type damage on a car, the value would be diminished substantially,

If anyone has an opinion or expert knowledge on this, your input would be much appreciated,

I would say the value of this frame is zero, as I doubt you would get too many people willing to buy it from you were you to try and sell it.

Snako

I am going to claim on the cars Insurance, waiting to get the details off the Gards, which I failed to collect at the scene

have missed two weeks of work as well, and my wrist shoulder and ankle are killing me,

My question I suppose should be rephrased to, what should one claim for in this circumstance? the bike is functional after repair, but is no longer brand new! The car analogy is unhelpful my bad,

Is this just me being fussy? Or do I have any merit to my argument?

Idleater

What material is the frame? Aluminium could have stress fractures.

Snako

Aluminium, what are stress fractures?

Idleater

Snako wrote: »

Aluminium, what are stress fractures?

Aluminium gets brittle at welds and can fracture across the crystal structure formed during welding process.
Unlike steel which can have stress reduced by tempering, aluminium doesn't like bending as much.
Look, it's your call. The car crashed into you, imo you have every right to have it xrayed or examined professionally. If that is cost prohibitive, the bike is an economic write off and you get a new one.
Ask the insurer if they'll cover you for any injury caused by the potential failure of the frame if it isn't certified.
As a matter of interest, what happened with your wheel?

Holyboy

Was it actually one of the dropouts that was bent(which would be very, very unusual) or was it the gear hanger?
If it was the gear hanger then it is usually replaceable and not a big deal.

boege

Kevin Irving wrote: »

For what, a new bike? If it's fixed, it's fixed. A car driver will get a bent chassis repaired by insurance, but won't be compensated if a potential buyer thinks a properly repaired car is worth less than before.

I had a car tip into the rear of my car while it had my bike mounted on tow bar mounted bike carrier. Like you, bike was fairly new and also aluminium. Took it to bike shop to get repaired and they said the bottom bracket/crank took the hit and had to be replaced. They also said the warranty was now invalid as the bike was in an accident. I claimed for a new bike and driver paid up.

If your frame had a warranty it is now invalid and so your frame is heavily devalued. I would claim for a new frame and the cost of transferring all the gear. A new bike may be cheaper. Driver is free to take your old bike if they replace.
If its just a hanger as others have said that part is replaceable and you are OK.

Snako

Holyboy wrote: »

Was it actually one of the dropouts that was bent(which would be very, very unusual) or was it the gear hanger?
If it was the gear hanger then it is usually replaceable and not a big deal.

It was the gear hanger, one of the drop outs, and something else can't read the bike man's notes

Snako

Idleater wrote: »

Aluminium gets brittle at welds and can fracture across the crystal structure formed during welding process.
Unlike steel which can have stress reduced by tempering, aluminium doesn't like bending as much.
Look, it's your call. The car crashed into you, imo you have every right to have it xrayed or examined professionally. If that is cost prohibitive, the bike is an economic write off and you get a new one.
Ask the insurer if they'll cover you for any injury caused by the potential failure of the frame if it isn't certified.
As a matter of interest, what happened with your wheel?

This is a helpful insight thank you, The wheel just popped out when I changed the gears, the gear is bent as well so it hit the spokes, and the wheel obviously wasn't secure so it just popped out, for a split second thought I had accident mark two on my hands!!

Snako

boege wrote: »

If your frame had a warranty it is now invalid and so your frame is heavily devalued. I would claim for a new frame and the cost of transferring all the gear. A new bike may be cheaper. Driver is free to take your old bike if they replace.
If its just a hanger as others have said that part is replaceable and you are OK.

Sound for the info, I do have a warranty, and I am very thankful that I'm in one piece, bought a helmet yesterday and will be using it from now on,

High Nellie

Idleater wrote: »

Are you not claiming from the car's insurance?

There seems to be a misconception abroad about this. You claim against the driver, not his insurance company. He may or may not refer it to his insurance company which will not deal with you without the drivers instruction.

Idleater

High Nellie wrote: »

Idleater wrote: »

Are you not claiming from the car's insurance?

There seems to be a misconception abroad about this. You claim against the driver, not his insurance company. He may or may not refer it to his insurance company which will not deal with you without the drivers instruction.

Apologies, the phone fingers and predictive text missed the 'driver 'which is what I meant to say. I am well aware of insurance requirements here.