Best starting off diesel car?

TossL1916

Howya lads,
What would ye reccomend as a good starting out diesel car?
my budget isn't massive but obviously i will pay for quality.
I have an open mind, was looking at getting a celica or corolla but i,ve gone off the idea of a petrol! Its my first post in this forum so if there,s been another thread similar to this just gimme the link and say no more
Thanks in advance yere advice and help.

colm_mcm

Avensis td.

damo244

Hi have had a few diesels over the years 2.0/1.9,but in the last few years peugeot/citreon 1.6HDI,or the Renault megane sport tourer 1.5Dci which i liked very much very good on diesel,shop around see what you like and take a test drive with a few will help you to narrow it down,also how much you drive is a factor on engine size lots of short driving you don"t need big engines some of the smaller engines are as sporty as some of the bigger ones,also think of your practical needs,space,comfort,tax,insurance, happy hunting let us know how you get on.:)

coco_lola

There's a 1.4D4D Corolla which is a Diesel, AFAIK. Correct me if I'm wrong?

shawnee

What is your budget ?

Oral Surgeon

Mully_2011

coco_lola wrote: »

There's a 1.4D4D Corolla which is a Diesel, AFAIK. Correct me if I'm wrong?

There is but its not great tbh that d4d engine is just a psa 1.4 hdi for the likes of 206s and c2 not a bad engine but its too small for the corolla

Matthewjohn

Golf 1.9 sdi cheap to by light on fuel safe reliable if not very powerful great 1st car

kermitpwee

Mully_2011 wrote: »

There is but its not great tbh that d4d engine is just a psa 1.4 hdi for the likes of 206s and c2 not a bad engine but its too small for the corolla

the toyota engine is not a psa engine.

TossL1916

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

haha would love that but i'm not willing to sell my house to buy the car plus it's not available in right hand drive :rolleyes:

budget is around 1500, didn't know they made corolla diesels, anyone else any opinions on them?

johnbobtheslob

mark 4 tdi golf? excellent all round car and can be picked up relatively cheap nowadays.

Nissan doctor

Are you going to be doing the miles to justify a diesel?

mgbgt1978

With your budget you will looking at very high mileage cars. Usually the parts that give trouble on a diesel are a lot more expensive than the similar parts on a petrol (eg. fuel pump).
The motor tax will most likely be dearer as well because you are really looking at 1.9 or 2.0lt cars.
The heavier weight of a diesel engine will normally wear the front tyres down faster than a lighter petrol engine.
You will definitely pick up a newer, lower-mileage petrol car for your money with a budget of €1500.
So, as Nissan Doctor said, you will need to be covering a lot of miles to justify a diesel.

The Bishop Basher

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

The heavier weight of a diesel engine will normally wear the front tyres down faster than a lighter petrol engine.

I was expecting the usual diesel doom and gloom on this thread but this takes the biscuit !!

tcawley29

I have a 2006 1.4 D-4D corolla hatchback. Both my dad and my mother have 1.4 D-4D corollas as well except they have a saloon. They have a 2008 and a 2010. In my opinion they're all great cars, nice power, reliable. Anyone who says they don't have power either isin't looking after the car or else is an idiot. I easily overtake about 5 - 10 cars everyday and usually at least two cars at a time. Sure ya have to drop back to either 3rd or 4th (depends on current speed) but you'll have no bother finding the power when its needed. One thing I would recommend is trying to find a 6 speed manual as opposed to a 5 speed manual (better mpg on the 6 speed for longer drives).
Hope that helps.
Reguards
Tommy

mgbgt1978

Swanner wrote: »

I was expecting the usual diesel doom and gloom on this thread but this takes the biscuit !!

The OP has a budget of €1500. The usual supects would be either a Golf or an Avensis from the late 90's or early 00's.
In both cases the Diesel car weighs around 100kg more than it's petrol equivalent. I don't think that either manufacturer installed heavier seats, glass, speakers or even used lead enriched speedo needles.
That just leaves the engine as the heavier component.
This extra weight is either above the front wheels, or even slightly in front of them (here comes the science bit) which will increase that extra weight even more (the law of the lever).

I have nothing against diesel engines, have one myself because I cover over 50,000 miles a year, but it is a simple fact that a diesel engined car within the OP's budget will have a heavier engine than it's petrol counterpart. More weight on any Tyre, especially a Tyre which is also steering will cause it to wear faster
This is neither gloom nor doom.....nor biscuits.

pappyodaniel

*Boring alert*

You can't go wrong with a 1.9 diesel Octavia. Will go forever and cheap to replace parts and to service.

Leonard Hofstadter

pappyodaniel wrote: »

*Boring alert*

You can't go wrong with a 1.9 diesel Octavia. Will go forever and cheap to replace parts and to service.

+1, plus unlike an increasing number of Golfs, Passats and A4s with the same engine, they have not fallen victim to the shall we say upmarket Glanza driver, so they are less likely to have been abused and therefore will be more reliable.

The 1.9 TDI is a tough old beast anyway.