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Am I licenced to carry a pillion passenger?

  • 08-03-2012 12:12pm
    #1
    Spastafarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭


    I have had a full B licence for 11 years, apparently this also counts as a M licence. Can anyone tell me if this means I am also licenced to carry a pillion passenger on a 50cc scooter? I tried looking it up but can't find any clear answers...


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  • #2
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Since its a full license it would seem that you can carry a pillion. Don't think I would want to myself.


  • #3
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    If the licence shows category M, then yes.

    Anyone with a full M licence can carry a pillion passenger.

    Saying that...a 50cc moped will really struggle with 2 people on it. And they are very top heavy as well with 2 people on them which make them more unstable.


  • #4
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    If you have a full category M licence for more than two years (i.e. you're over your initial 2 year restriction) then yes, you are legally allowed to carry a pillion.


  • #5
    Spastafarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Spastafarian


    Please Kill Me wrote: »
    If you have a full category M licence for more than two years (i.e. you're over your initial 2 year restriction) then yes, you are legally allowed to carry a pillion.

    Sweet, does this apply even though I haven't actually been riding a scooter?


  • #6
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Spastafarian wrote: »
    Sweet, does this apply even though I haven't actually been riding a scooter?

    AFAIK, yes, once you have a full licence, it does. You might want to double check that though. How do you have a full licence for a bike if you never actually sat the test though?


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  • #7
    spankmaster2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭spankmaster2000


    Technically, you need to be insured to carry a pillion as well.

    A garda stopped me once when I had the missuz on the back, and quizzed me about that.


  • #8
    Spastafarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Spastafarian


    Please Kill Me wrote: »
    AFAIK, yes, once you have a full licence, it does. You might want to double check that though. How do you have a full licence for a bike if you never actually sat the test though?

    I have a full B licence, which is also a full M licence as long as you got it before 2006 according to this website. Seems a bit odd to me too but I'm not complaining, I don't like tests.
    citizensinformation.ie wrote:
    ...if you have held a driving licence for category B, C, C1, D, D1, EB, EC, EC1, ED or ED1 since before 21 October 2006, it is also regarded as a licence for category M.


  • #9
    fando
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭fando


    That is correct. I inquired about this to RSA and got email back confirming this.


  • #10
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    fando wrote: »
    That is correct. I inquired about this to RSA and got email back confirming this.

    Good enough so. Fair play.


  • #11
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Please Kill Me wrote: »
    If you have a full category M licence for more than two years (i.e. you're over your initial 2 year restriction) then yes, you are legally allowed to carry a pillion.

    The two years thing is only to do with the 'A' license, and then also relates to the max power of the bike you can ride

    Nout to do with pillions, or motorway usage (the only other 2 things a full license nets you afaik)


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  • #12
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Wossack wrote: »
    The two years thing is only to do with the 'A' license, and then also relates to the max power of the bike you can ride

    Yeah, copped that after when I had a look at my own licence, full "B" and full "A" and the "M" is on it too. :o Good spot man.


  • #13
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Spastafarian wrote: »
    I have had a full B licence for 11 years, apparently this also counts as a M licence. Can anyone tell me if this means I am also licenced to carry a pillion passenger on a 50cc scooter? I tried looking it up but can't find any clear answers...

    Not all scooters are mopeds and not all mopeds are scooters.

    You need to be careful what you buy as your licence is only for Mopeds which are <45km/h and <49cc. Most scooters will easily exceed this, so be careful what you buy. A bike which will easily carry 2 people won't meet moped criteria.


  • #14
    lostboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭lostboy


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    If the licence shows category M, then yes.

    Anyone with a full M licence can carry a pillion passenger.

    Saying that...a 50cc moped will really struggle with 2 people on it. And they are very top heavy as well with 2 people on them which make them more unstable.
    ah no, a restricted one (which is all hes licensed for anyway) will still reach the 30mph no bother with 2 up.


  • #15
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    lostboy wrote: »
    ah no, a restricted one (which is all hes licensed for anyway) will still reach the 30mph no bother with 2 up.

    You need a different licence to do 30mph, since M is only valid to 45kph.


  • #16
    lostboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭lostboy


    thanks for that :rolleyes:


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