Enda being condescending

dannyd20

Anyone see Enda do this on the news last night? Thought it was hilariously condescending. Much like his political performance unfortunately!

SEPT 23 1989

I voted for his party and have felt very let down since they came to power

patwicklow

Same here gave both parties a vote well dont worry 3 years wont be long passing so hope they enjoy the power while it lasts!

smash

Kid should have given him a falcon punch!

44leto

I think he is doing a great job, I knew going into the ballad box that I was voting for cutbacks no matter who got into power, I knew hard times were ahead, the IMF/ECB are pulling the strings and no matter who got into power they would have to bow to them and that includes the pandering nonsense of Sinn Fein.

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes, I know it is still early days but so far so good. Also I sense a rising optimism in the air, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Lash_Alert

wtf is he playing out? Such a joke.

Sergeant

I think the government are doing an excellent job considering the circumstances when they took over.

Nothingbetter2d

ah kenny pulled the old "priest's pat on a boy's head" maneuver "there's a good lad"

44leto

44leto wrote: »

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes,

Like a pickpocket

My name is URL

He's just so annoying. I've seen cartons of rancid milk with more tact than him.

Pighead

44leto wrote: »

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes, I know it is still early days but so far so good. Also I sense a rising optimism in the air, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Don't think the government can take too much credit for those job announcements. Vice president of PayPal was on local radio last week and he said that no single policy change by the government helped to entice them to expand in Ireland.

Jobs would have been announced a year ago had they been ready to expand. They chose Dundalk because our glorious town could provide them with a skilled workforce and a decent location.

Logical Fallacy

Sergeant wrote: »

I think the government are doing an excellent job considering the circumstances when they took over.

Indeed, breaking endless election promises = top notch work.

People talking about no riots etc - give the Irish populace some credit for that i reckon. Look at Greece and what their rioting has acheived them...absolutely nothing except massive damage to their own country.

Any EU country that descended to rioting in the face of such example would be foolish in the extreme.

The odd person on AH will use the seeming lack of riots as a stick to beat the Irish with but at the end of the day we are getting the ****ing job done. It's entirely possible to not be happy with a situation but to spot the flaws in the alternative.

smash

I agree. The government are doing a great job of screwing us over!

44leto

Deleted User wrote: »

Like a pickpocket

LOL
A perfect analogy, yeah a pickpocket who also has the skill to put your empty wallet back in your pocket.

I have a friend in the Aer Corp and he was saying since this government came to power the government jet (in comparison with the last shower) is virtually left in the hangar.

I have to admit although I didn't vote for FG I would if there was an election tomorrow.

token101

44leto wrote: »

I think he is doing a great job, I knew going into the ballad box that I was voting for cutbacks no matter who got into power, I knew hard times were ahead, the IMF/ECB are pulling the strings and no matter who got into power they would have to bow to them and that includes the pandering nonsense of Sinn Fein.

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes, I know it is still early days but so far so good. Also I sense a rising optimism in the air, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Did Enda sing sweet lullabies to you in the ballad box?

Micky Dolenz

Fight da powah

Reamer Fanny

Wtf was that?

44leto

Pighead wrote: »

Don't think the government can take too much credit for those job announcements. Vice president of PayPal was on local radio last week and he said that no single policy change by the government helped to entice them to expand in Ireland.

Jobs would have been announced a year ago had they been ready to expand. They chose Dundalk because our glorious town could provide them with a skilled workforce and a decent location.

Well would PayPal have changed their mind if there were Greek style riots on the streets of Dublin and an unstable bickering government.

It does show the investors still has confidence in Ireland and that confidence in a large part comes from the government.

Also i heard yesterday SKY is also setting up an office in Dublin with 250 jobs but also they are entering the broadband market, so they may have to add to the fibre optic cable network.

I wager we will have over 1% growth next year, not much but certainly better then what I expected.

44leto

token101 wrote: »

Did Enda sing sweet lullabies to you in the ballad box?

I didn't vote for FG I voted labour, for the first time in my life as well.

homerjay2005

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I voted for his party and have felt very let down since they came to power

errm what? you expect they wave a magic wand and things just go away? they took over the country, in its worse state in about 100+ years. considering the huge challenges, the bureaucratic s*it they have to deal with, inadequate public sector, crap banking system and developer back patters they inherited, i think they have dont a great job. not totally perfect, they have made some mistakes, but they basically are putting out fires all over the place and still have managed to regain some credibility for this country that bertie, cowan and co have lost us.

they get an 8.5 out of 10 so far for me, the previous government gets a 0.

smash

44leto wrote: »

Well would PayPal have changed their mind if there were Greek style riots on the streets of Dublin and an unstable bickering government.

You think the lack of riots is to do with the government doing a good job? You're having a laugh right?

44leto

homerjay2005 wrote: »

errm what? you expect they wave a magic wand and things just go away? they took over the country, in its worse state in about 100+ years. considering the huge challenges, the bureaucratic s*it they have to deal with, inadequate public sector, crap banking system and developer back patters they inherited, i think they have dont a great job. not totally perfect, they have made some mistakes, but they basically are putting out fires all over the place and still have managed to regain some credibility for this country that bertie, cowan and co have lost us.

they get an 8.5 out of 10 so far for me, the previous government gets a 0.

Great post

Peoples expectations are gas, the IMF/ECB were here, we lost our financial independence thanks to FF/Greens, so unless we discovered a field of oil in Dublin bay the size of the Saudi jeddah fields, we are going into austere time, it all comes down to how that is managed and as you said it has not being perfect but much better then I expected.

Let us see how he manages the children's hospital problem which I will add he also inherited from.........

44leto

smash wrote: »

You think the lack of riots is to do with the government doing a good job? You're having a laugh right?

I don't know, perhaps, but I would never support any riots, so maybe its down to that common attitude among us Oirish.

But tell who would you rather in power???

Son Of A Vidic

He is such an utter fúckwit, that he can't even condescend properly. You don't pat someone on their forehead, you pat them on top of their head.

Pighead

44leto wrote: »

Well would PayPal have changed their mind if there were Greek style riots on the streets of Dublin and an unstable bickering government.

I think the lack of rioting on the streets has more to do with the 'Ah sure it's too cold to be rioting' mindset of Irish people rather than anything to do with the present government.

44leto wrote: »

It does show the investors still has confidence in Ireland and that confidence in a large part comes from the government.

Disagree. Companies are still attracted to Ireland because we have a ready made educated and skilled workforce with a good reputation worldwide. Corporation Tax rate also has a huge part in attracting these companies which also has nothing to do with present government. Can you name me something new and innovative that Fine Gael or Labour have done over the past year to attract foreign investment to our country?

Governments probably get bashed a bit too much when things go down the swannie but equally they tend to get too much credit when things are going great.

Freddie59

44leto wrote: »

I think he is doing a great job, I knew going into the ballad box that I was voting for cutbacks no matter who got into power, I knew hard times were ahead, the IMF/ECB are pulling the strings and no matter who got into power they would have to bow to them and that includes the pandering nonsense of Sinn Fein.

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes, I know it is still early days but so far so good. Also I sense a rising optimism in the air, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Sorry, but I can't agree. His capitulation to the bondholders destroyed any credibility he had, along with his farce of a performance in Davos.

Bodhisopha

He got charisma all over that kids forehead.

44leto

Freddie59 wrote: »

Sorry, but I can't agree. His capitulation to the bondholders destroyed any credibility he had, along with his farce of a performance in Davos.

I don't think he had a choice the I cannot be sure, but it may have being a condition of the bailout, the bondholders I imagine are mainly German banks, but he wouldn't give us the names.

TheZohanS

44leto wrote: »

I think he is doing a great job, I knew going into the ballad box that I was voting for cutbacks no matter who got into power, I knew hard times were ahead, the IMF/ECB are pulling the strings and no matter who got into power they would have to bow to them and that includes the pandering nonsense of Sinn Fein.

But this government has managed those cuts without the riots or strikes, I know it is still early days but so far so good. Also I sense a rising optimism in the air, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Eh you do realise that all they've done is implemented FF's plans? They have come up with no ideas themselves.

It's no wonder that 70% of the population are dissatisfied with the job the government are doing.

SEPT 23 1989

44leto wrote: »

I don't think he had a choice the I cannot be sure, but it may have being a condition of the bailout, the bondholders I imagine are mainly German banks, but he wouldn't give us the names.

They said "not a penny more to Anglo"

They lied to the electorate

44leto

Pighead wrote: »

I think the lack of rioting on the streets has more to do with the 'Ah sure it's too cold to be rioting' mindset of Irish people rather than anything to do with the present government.


Disagree. Companies are still attracted to Ireland because we have a ready made educated and skilled workforce with a good reputation worldwide. Corporation Tax rate also has a huge part in attracting these companies which also has nothing to do with present government. Can you name me something new and innovative that Fine Gael or Labour have done over the past year to attract foreign investment to our country?

Governments probably get bashed a bit too much when things go down the swannie but equally they tend to get too much credit when things are going great.

They are doing something with the online gambling industry, is about the only one that springs to mind. But before thye came to power Ireland was making headlines worlwide about the basket case we had become, let us see what the world media thinks about us in the coming year.

I ask who would you have rather in power. FF again.

Sergeant

TheZohan wrote: »

Eh you do realise that all they've done is implemented FF's plans? They have come up with no ideas themselves.

It's no wonder that 70% of the population are dissatisfied with the job the government are doing.

What would you do? How would you plug a 20 thousand million difference between income and spending (nothing to do with bank bailouts)? Would you raise taxes, cut services, or do a mixture of both? Or have we all missed out on another solution that was staring us in the face?

44leto

TheZohan wrote: »

Eh you do realise that all they've done is implemented FF's plans? They have come up with no ideas themselves.

It's no wonder that 70% of the population are dissatisfied with the job the government are doing.

FF were more or less told what was expected of them for the bail out that is how the IMF work. So any future government would have to implement those conditions. IMO they are doing it as well if not better then at least I expected.

Off course in times of austerity and cutbacks you will get high dissatisfaction, but if you are informed enough you will see past that. A government can't come to power in a depression reduce taxes and increase public spending. All they can do is manage or play the card they have.

For now I think they are doing that well. But that opinion is subject to change.

TheZohanS

Sergeant wrote: »

What would you do? How would you plug a 20 thousand million difference between income and spending (nothing to do with bank bailouts)? Would you raise taxes, cut services, or do a mixture of both? Or have we all missed out on another solution that was staring us in the face?

I would keep my election promises, I wouldn't make false claims to get people to vote for me. I wouldn't tell the electorate "not a penny more" will be going into Anglo and then pump billions into it at a later date. I wouldn't come on National TV and say that it's not the normal Irish peoples fault and then a few weeks later tell my EU buddies that it IS in fact the Irish peoples fault and that they're greedy. I wouldn't say that property tax is morally wrong and then impose the tax a few years later.

Enda Kenny is a fraud and a liar, he should fuck off back to Mayo and teach primary school kids.

token101

44leto wrote: »

I didn't vote for FG I voted labour, for the first time in my life as well.

Who did you vote for previously if you don't mind my asking? I've heard Cowen used to love a good song after a few pints in the ballad box. Did Michael D regale you with a rendition in the ballad box? No one ever sings to me on election day

token101

TheZohan wrote: »

I would keep my election promises, I wouldn't make false claims to get people to vote for me. I wouldn't tell the electorate "not a penny more" will be going into Anglo and then pump billions into it at a later date. I wouldn't come on National TV and say that it's not the normal Irish peoples fault and then a few weeks later tell my EU buddies that it IS in fact the Irish peoples fault and that they're greedy. I wouldn't say that property tax is morally wrong and then impose the tax a few years later.

Enda Kenny is a fraud and a liar, he should fuck off back to Mayo and teach primary school kids.

Don't worry sure the kids are in good hands with the priests

Lando Griffin

44leto wrote: »

, instead of the mass job losses we are starting to get headlines of new investment and new jobs, 1000 last week with pay pal in Dundalk and yesterday Lillie Illies announced an investment for the southeast region with I think 500 new jobs.

SO credit were credit is due.

Yes indeed.

This is exactly what the housing market needs. 1000 jobs in Dundalk means 1000 people need somewhere to live that equates to 1000 new homes, and thats not even houses for the construction workers.

Elily Lilly is actually in Kinsale Co. Cork, with 300 jobs in construction and a further 200 in the plant when finished. Again, these folk will need somewhere to live so another 500 houses here as well.

My advise to you is to buy now, because property & zoned land in these areas can only rise in value.

Biggins

The amount of U-turns, inactions and lies in their (and Labours's) already short term in office, is absolutely unreal.
Definitely FF and Green Party part two!

Chucky the tree

TheZohan wrote: »

I would keep my election promises, I wouldn't make false claims to get people to vote for me. I wouldn't tell the electorate "not a penny more" will be going into Anglo and then pump billions into it at a later date. I wouldn't come on National TV and say that it's not the normal Irish peoples fault and then a few weeks later tell my EU buddies that it IS in fact the Irish peoples fault and that they're greedy. I wouldn't say that property tax is morally wrong and then impose the tax a few years later.

Enda Kenny is a fraud and a liar, he should fuck off back to Mayo and teach primary school kids.

So no idea then.

44leto

token101 wrote: »

Who did you vote for previously if you don't mind my asking? I've heard Cowen used to love a good song after a few pints in the ballad box. Did Michael D regale you with a rendition in the ballad box? No one ever sings to me on election day

FF sometimes FG other times, independents the odd time I never voted labour because i always regarded them as fukcwits, but this time Gilmore DID impress me and my politics tend to be pragmatic, but a pragmatist who sways more to Boston then to Berlin.

Son Of A Vidic

Freddie59 wrote: »

Sorry, but I can't agree. His capitulation to the bondholders destroyed any credibility he had, along with his farce of a performance in Davos.

And wasn't he such a good little lapdog over in Davos. Undoubtedly, he brought tears to his masters eyes.

smash

44leto wrote: »

FF were more or less told what was expected of them for the bail out that is how the IMF work. So any future government would have to implement those conditions. IMO they are doing it as well if not better then at least I expected.

Of course they're also implementing their own charges on top of that like the household tax and proposed broadcasting tax and proposed extra tolling on roads. Then they're letting the likes of ESB and VHI run riot with their pricing and also trying to introduce a SOPA law. Yep, they're doing a great job.

Zebra3

Don't forget about how broke the country is, cutback here, cutbacks there.




Until it comes to making sure their mates get handy overpaid jobs that the taxpayer has to pay for.

"Change"? :rolleyes:

rgmmg

homerjay2005 wrote: »

errm what? you expect they wave a magic wand and things just go away? they took over the country, in its worse state in about 100+ years. considering the huge challenges, the bureaucratic s*it they have to deal with, inadequate public sector, crap banking system and developer back patters they inherited, i think they have dont a great job. not totally perfect, they have made some mistakes, but they basically are putting out fires all over the place and still have managed to regain some credibility for this country that bertie, cowan and co have lost us.

they get an 8.5 out of 10 so far for me, the previous government gets a 0.

from heroes to zeros

veryangryman

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Yes indeed.

This is exactly what the housing market needs. 1000 jobs in Dundalk means 1000 people need somewhere to live that equates to 1000 new homes, and thats not even houses for the construction workers.

Elily Lilly is actually in Kinsale Co. Cork, with 300 jobs in construction and a further 200 in the plant when finished. Again, these folk will need somewhere to live so another 500 houses here as well.

My advise to you is to buy now, because property & zoned land in these areas can only rise in value.

Why do the construction industry and all associated (those who make road signs for instance) not learn to spell? Also your advice is terrible. The town probably has the vast majority of this workforce already living in the surrounding area. So no, prices wont go up.

Lawrence1895

Hitler and Saddam Hussein did the same. Pretending to have a good heart by pretending to be good to children

Logical Fallacy

Lando Griffin wrote: »

Yes indeed.

This is exactly what the housing market needs. 1000 jobs in Dundalk means 1000 people need somewhere to live that equates to 1000 new homes, and thats not even houses for the construction workers.

Elily Lilly is actually in Kinsale Co. Cork, with 300 jobs in construction and a further 200 in the plant when finished. Again, these folk will need somewhere to live so another 500 houses here as well.

My advise to you is to buy now, because property & zoned land in these areas can only rise in value.

Are you nuts? A job in an area does not equate to a need for a new house.

Also, why the **** would someone buy a house for what you have pointed out is a temporary job (construction jobs).

This isn't a drop in the ocean for what the housing market needs, which is for currently built and empty units to sell, not new houses to be built.

Blazer

Sergeant wrote: »

What would you do? How would you plug a 20 thousand million difference between income and spending (nothing to do with bank bailouts)? Would you raise taxes, cut services, or do a mixture of both? Or have we all missed out on another solution that was staring us in the face?

Cancel Croke Park Agreement
Slash HSE admin staff by 20,000.
Implement 50% pay cuts for all TD's.
Implement audited expenses for all Public Sector officials incl Dail + Senate.
Option to abolish Senate
Renegotiate repayments for bailout.
Slash social welfare for long term unemployed.
Slash all "extras" for social welfare such as nicotine replacement products etc.
Abolish the current internship scheme or modify for professional qualifications etc. A shelf stacker does not need experience

We could go on and on but the Government are too petrified of the PS unions to stand upto them.

Babybuff

Patronising git.

Solair

I know he's a little twee at times and extremely buttoned-up looking and his speeches do rather look like they should be filmed in black and white and sent via a time warp, but at least he's not constantly making me cringe.

At least we're no longer worried about statements about how we are 'upsetting apple tarts', or having 20:20 vision in hindsight. Or, turning up at G8 meetings wearing canary yellow suits. Or, telling economists who saw the impending property collapse to go top themselves etc.


(or, suffering from nasal congestion during radio interviews.)

I'd add that I'm not a huge fan of FG or FF, but I've seen worse than Enda.

Duckjob

Pat a kids head... like a bowse