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Roadworks danger

  • 27-02-2012 6:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭


    hi everyone, in the last week i have been travelling to work at 5 in the morning from wex to ross direction on the main road and have come across the roadworks road signs all moved around sending traffic onto the opposite sides of the road, last night there was an accident between a lorry and and a vanwhich were both travelling on the same lane in opposite directions over the brow of the hill, the driver of the car was brought to hospital but does not have life threatening injuries. the car however is a write-off. i myself had a close one the night before with a van, i had to swerve off into the verge and busted through a row of cones. What kind of sick people are doing this, they will end up killing someone, and it cant be young lads as its a few miles from the town they would need a car and at that hour of the morning to be doing it!! has anyone else drove by this area of the road and had the same thing happen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Some of the boy racers think it's a great laugh to do things like that and don't realise the danger they cause.A few nights in the 'Joy would sort 'em out.

    Wouldn't be half as funny if one of their family was killed as a result of their "havin' a bit of craic"?

    Last year when the N30 was being resurfaced they gathered up a load of the cones outside New Ross and set them on fire on the road.

    Then they wonder why people don't like them in their shitebox cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    germanator wrote: »
    hi everyone, in the last week i have been travelling to work at 5 in the morning from wex to ross direction on the main road and have come across the roadworks road signs all moved around sending traffic onto the opposite sides of the road, last night there was an accident between a lorry and and a vanwhich were both travelling on the same lane in opposite directions over the brow of the hill, the driver of the car was brought to hospital but does not have life threatening injuries. the car however is a write-off. i myself had a close one the night before with a van, i had to swerve off into the verge and busted through a row of cones. What kind of sick people are doing this, they will end up killing someone, and it cant be young lads as its a few miles from the town they would need a car and at that hour of the morning to be doing it!! has anyone else drove by this area of the road and had the same thing happen?

    Can you please be more specific as to where these roadworks actually are so people can be careful on approach? Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Decoda


    Hi,

    I could be wrong but I think the Op is talking about the roadworks which are taking place on the N25 at Begerin Hill, its approximately halfway between Ballinaboola and New Ross. The council are doing a short realignment and are also resurfacing about 2.5 kilometres of the road surface between Cushenstown church and the bottom of Begerin hill on the New Ross side.

    I have heard that the contractor is having trouble keeping the orange lights on cones...they are losing a dozen a night due to theft since the job started last week:mad:

    Drive safe

    DC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    yep, exactly where decoda said! and i remember the cones being set alight, that was on the enniscorthy road just outside ross yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Dickheads - hope their induction kits swallow great volumes of water.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    it wouldnt surprise me if its the same crowd that were throwing the rocks from the flyover last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    well in fairness though we cant exactly say its the "boy racers" that are doing this, i mean it could be a crowd of lads that are not even into cars, their just out to cause trouble!
    theres lots of other trobles i have on the road and to tell the truth none is caused by young fellas, its older women mostly, especially on the one way streets in ross now, every single time i come down theres an old one driving up the wrong way and they seem to think their in the right, nearly caused an accident a few times, and where are the gardai when this is happening? nowhere to be seen either, and they must not have had indicators on their cars in their day either!! bit off topic but just dont like when everything gets blamed on the younger drivers when older drivers are as bad if not worse!! sure they might have standard cars but they sure as hell could do with resitting a driving test


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Not sure how this thread decended into a rant against Guards. no bias here, I'm not a guard, nor have any friends or relations who are guards.

    But do you expect them to be sitting on one way streets waiting for an auld one to be driving the wrong way? Or out on a main road at 5am in the morning because there might be trouble? People would complain if there was extra money being spent on having guards patrol roadworks at hours in the morning where there is very little traffic. They have had a lot of cuts to wages and workforce, and whilst I'm not exactly their biggest fan, blaming them becuase dickheads want to drive like tools and make a mess of cones set out on roadworks is not the fault of the gardai. there is only so much they can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    germanator wrote: »
    well in fairness though we cant exactly say its the "boy racers" that are doing this, i mean it could be a crowd of lads that are not even into cars, their just out to cause trouble!

    There's a difference between car enthusiasts and boy racers,the former take pride in their cars while the latter just seem to be gobshites who act the eejit on the roads.We've all seen them crammed into a Saxo or Micra with a stupid exhaust and they feel the need to wear their hoods up while driving for some bizzare reason-do the heaters not work in their cars?
    It's these lads that cause the hassle on the roads not the genuine lad who has a decent looking car and takes pride in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    I had a near one there on Sunday night too, at about 8:30pm. I was coming up the hill towards Ross and on the brow of the hill there was a cone in the middle of the lane, the mother was in the car with me at the time and she nearly sh1t herself when I had to swerve around it clipping a couple of cones in the process.

    Thank God or whoever that there wasn't another vehicle coming the other way, we might have been in a bad way.



    Absolute pr1cks whoever is doing this! I hate to wish bad on other people, but my God, they deserve it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    zerks wrote: »
    There's a difference between car enthusiasts and boy racers,the former take pride in their cars while the latter just seem to be gobshites who act the eejit on the roads.We've all seen them crammed into a Saxo or Micra with a stupid exhaust and they feel the need to wear their hoods up while driving for some bizzare reason-do the heaters not work in their cars?
    It's these lads that cause the hassle on the roads not the genuine lad who has a decent looking car and takes pride in it.

    but whos to even say it was one of these people either?? its jumping the gun to just say its boyracers doing it, it may well be im not denying that but we cant say unless we see them or have some evidence. It may well be some crowd of eejits that drive a brand new standard car or even a motor bike or some lads from the country in a jeep.. we cant say so thats why im not naming anyone or any type of people it might be!

    As for guards waiting at a 1 way street, im not saying they should, but in the same light if the guards have reports of trouble in a certain area they keep an eye on it, for a while anyway, so in the same way they could easily keep an eye on these streets or even set up a checkpoint for half an hour as they do at other locations, im pretty sure half an hour would be plenty of time to catch a few people going the wrong way with the amount of times i see it happening. In fairness is a blind eye going to be cast to the situation untill theres a serious accident? There must be some way of amending it. Even if the council appointed a warden or someone to check the streets for a day and take count of all the reg's of cars that go the wrong way and send them a fine, as their very quick to do it for no parking ticket so why should this more serious occurance go without cosequences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    At the end if the day , it is only short-term danger , and when the roadworks are complete , it will be a relief to travel on this stretch of road without some idiot drivers zooming up the outside lane at 120mph .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    Ledger wrote: »
    Absolute pr1cks whoever is doing this! I hate to wish bad on other people, but my God, they deserve it.

    It's possible this kind of thing isn't being done by people in the conventional sense.

    On many occasions when driving through roadworks I've seen HGVs tyres clip the edge of the base of a cone or two and the cones go flying to the side a few feet if the tyre hit it at just the right angle. So a random cone in the middle of the lane could easily have just got there without any malicious intent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    bkehoe wrote: »
    It's possible this kind of thing isn't being done by people in the conventional sense.

    On many occasions when driving through roadworks I've seen HGVs tyres clip the edge of the base of a cone or two and the cones go flying to the side a few feet if the tyre hit it at just the right angle. So a random cone in the middle of the lane could easily have just got there without any malicious intent.

    I work on a truck, and believe me they wouldn't be able to move all these cones in a perfect line into the other lane by accident.


    Someone is doing this purposely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    yes its definitly done on purpose, the traffic is being directed onto the opposite lane into the line of oncoming traffic! i know what you mean though about one or 2 odd cones in the middle of the road its very likely there were moved by accident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    Ledger wrote: »
    I work on a truck, and believe me they wouldn't be able to move all these cones in a perfect line into the other lane by accident.


    Someone is doing this purposely.

    Ah ok I thought it was just one cone that was in your lane rather than a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    bkehoe wrote: »
    Ah ok I thought it was just one cone that was in your lane rather than a row.

    It was two, but the way they were situated, it couldn't happen by accident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    but whos to even say it was one of these people either?? its jumping the gun to just say its boyracers doing it, it may well be im not denying that but we cant say unless we see them or have some evidence. It may well be some crowd of eejits that drive a brand new standard car or even a motor bike or some lads from the country in a jeep.. we cant say so thats why im not naming anyone or any type of people it might be!

    Or trucks clipping the cones and flinging them into the middle of the road?

    Edit - point made above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Or trucks clipping the cones and flinging them into the middle of the road?

    Did we not just have this argument?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Ledger wrote: »
    Did we not just have this argument?


    Chill, I had gone back in to amend my point:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Chill, I had gone back in to amend my point:rolleyes:

    Sorry I didn't mean to sound snippy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    just passed an accident there half an hour ago, cones had been diverted onto the very inside lane which has a large barracade type thing full of water and a car had smashed into it and a van into the back of the car, other traffic stopped in time. Whats going to be done about these cu*ts :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    That's puzzling as I just drove by there 30mins - 35mins ago and there was no disruption of any kind... :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    mabey you just passed before it happened? as your driving from wexford to ross direction it was right on the top of the hill on the left hand side, once it happened other traffic was able to continue on as the accident was in the the left verge where it was diverted. i was about 8 cars behind when it happened, luckily the line of traffic was only trevelling about 40mph, it was a black mondeo..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    germanator wrote: »
    just passed an accident there half an hour ago, cones had been diverted onto the very inside lane which has a large barracade type thing full of water and a car had smashed into it and a van into the back of the car, other traffic stopped in time. Whats going to be done about these cu*ts :/

    You should consider calling the gardai, and anyone else coming across these type of incidences should also. They might take it seriously and set up a sting op if it's continuing, is it gonna take a serious accident before these aholes are caught?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    ithis is rediculous, ive just took a spin out the road by the roadworks and low and behold their at it again, on the uphill out of ross there was a row of cones diverting traffic onto the wrong side of the road, so i moved them out of the way and went to the other end of the roadworks where they had done the same plus moved a large steel arrow sign in the way aswell!! i also moved them out of the way, then drove as far as the hound (about a mile further on) and turned around to head back and i just couldnt believe it, the first number of cones i had moved out of the way on the ross side were put back out diverting traffic to the wrong side again!!! and i passed no other car during the time i was out there which leads me to believe they are either on foot out there, and its very unbelievable to think they walked from ross, i think they may be living in one of the houses out there near the roadworks! I didnt get out of the car this time but rang the local gardai who said they would send someone straight out to check it out...... i waited parked a bit further down the road for almost 20 mins and no sign of the gardai, and i didnt pass them on the way back into town either. I guess they must not see it as an urgant matter until someone gets hurt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    It's obvious it's someone local if they moved them in that time, that or there are ghosts at work.

    Why don't you call in to the Gardai and explain to them the significant danger there is of someone driving at night through roadworks where someone has moved the damn cones and warning signs.

    This has head on collision written all over it.

    Perhaps it's some children in the area that need a kick in the arse and that think its great fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭chieftan65


    germanator wrote: »
    ithis is rediculous, ive just took a spin out the road by the roadworks and low and behold their at it again, on the uphill out of ross there was a row of cones diverting traffic onto the wrong side of the road, so i moved them out of the way and went to the other end of the roadworks where they had done the same plus moved a large steel arrow sign in the way aswell!! i also moved them out of the way, then drove as far as the hound (about a mile further on) and turned around to head back and i just couldnt believe it, the first number of cones i had moved out of the way on the ross side were put back out diverting traffic to the wrong side again!!! and i passed no other car during the time i was out there which leads me to believe they are either on foot out there, and its very unbelievable to think they walked from ross, i think they may be living in one of the houses out there near the roadworks! I didnt get out of the car this time but rang the local gardai who said they would send someone straight out to check it out...... i waited parked a bit further down the road for almost 20 mins and no sign of the gardai, and i didnt pass them on the way back into town either. I guess they must not see it as an urgant matter until someone gets hurt

    Feck the guards.... this is a job for the x files. bring in scully and mulder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    heard of another small accident up there last night, taxi coming back from the horse and hound towards ross met another car coming from ross that had been diverted onto the wrong side, the car recieved small damage by hitting the cones to avoid the taxi...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    Shytebags, time to rally the villageaunties!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    My da said he spotted some youngfella moving cones about last Thursday night, he said it was just one lad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    and was he only on foot, no car or anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    My da said he spotted some youngfella moving cones about last Thursday night, he said it was just one lad


    Maybe he's dolly dimple, obviously doesn't understand the complexities, cannot understand why the gardai aren't getting involved here:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    I'd be inclined to believe the polar opposite, I'd put money on it being some gurrir youngfella who's a bit psychoticaly disturbed, as in they are fully aware if the ramifications of their actions but do it anyway for some perverse scumbag lulz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    both could well be right, but until the garda pull their finger out and catch the ****(s) were never going to know


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Why not call the contractor or indeed the NRA or the RSA and tell them the Gardai are doing nothing about it and it's an accident waiting to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    sure i remember a few years back there are 2 bad bends, one near feathard on sea and one on the new line near wellington bridge and some head cases were throwing oil on the bends every night, i know personally of 2 people that crashed on the feathard bend and 1 who crashed on the new line and that doesnt include lots of other drivers i heard crashed there... and this was a regular occurance for about 2 months.... needless to say no one was ever caught for that either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    My parents came upon the re-directed cones on Sunday morning at about 10AM. Traffic coming from New Ross was being directed into the westbound lane by 2 cones. But as they knew the lane assignments they didn't go into the incorrect lane and rang the Gardai. The person who answered the phone said that they were aware of it and had got several calls already that morning and that they'd investigate.

    Sounds like they can't be bothered till someone gets seriously injured or worse because of it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Why not call the contractor or indeed the NRA or the RSA and tell them the Gardai are doing nothing about it and it's an accident waiting to happen.

    Wouldn't the New Ross Standard just love to print something about this; they could fill a page?! Someone should take a picture of the cones moved next time and contact them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    bkehoe wrote: »
    Wouldn't the New Ross Standard just love to print something about this; they could fill a page?! Someone should take a picture of the cones moved next time and contact them.
    exactly, i wonder what the gardai would have to say about that, surely they would have to do somthing then as they wouldnt want people knowing they are aware of it but doing nothing about it!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    just heard a bit about it on south east radio this morning, barely got the end of it though, anyone else hear the whole thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Any more news on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    heard on south east radio again this morning someone had had a small accident on the top of the hill and that cones were directing traffic onto the wrong side travelling out of ross.. that was at half 8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    at it again last night, cones were diverting traffic coming from ballinaboola down by cushinstown church on that narrow road and an artic turned down the road and there was a collision with a friend of mine, an elderly man who was driving people home from a night out in ballywilliam to cassagh, luckily there were no injuries, but the car is more or less a write off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    This is extremely serious, I'm really surprised (or am I) that the Gardai are not doing anything about it.

    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    their useless thats why, they'd rather a nice handy number like give out a few tax fines or the like, anything serious or that takes a bit of time like waiting around to catch the culprits and their nowhere to be seen. I mean its not as if they'd have to stay out there long, its happening every single night, surely if they waited out there 1 full night they would catch whoever is at it. This really is going to take a fatal accident for them to do somthing about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Ian7


    germanator wrote: »
    their useless thats why, they'd rather a nice handy number like give out a few tax fines or the like, anything serious or that takes a bit of time like waiting around to catch the culprits and their nowhere to be seen. I mean its not as if they'd have to stay out there long, its happening every single night, surely if they waited out there 1 full night they would catch whoever is at it. This really is going to take a fatal accident for them to do somthing about it

    I think you should copy and paste the important replies in this thread and mail a copy over to the New Ross Echo and Standard (it is called the Standard in Ross aint it?) today and let them highlight the situation and how long it has been going on without action from the Gardai. It's highly possible that the culprit or their family aren't aware of this conversation here and bringing it into the public eye would get some memories jogging or it may even weed the culprit out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    on the way from wexford last night about 1.30am and surprise surprise, as i came around the bend at the bottom of hill 2 artic lorries were stopped, facing each other and the 2 drivers were out moving the cones which had been set up in a few places to divert traffic travelling both ways onto the middle lane!! As we drove on, just nearing the end of the roadworks on the ross side there was about 50-60 cones just threw across the road completely blocking it, the driver of the lorry and i had to get out to move them out of the way which took a good 5-10 mins. absolutley rediculous that this is still happening after 3 weeks!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Trevor Kent


    Ian7 wrote: »
    I think you should copy and paste the important replies in this thread and mail a copy over to the New Ross Echo and Standard (it is called the Standard in Ross aint it?) today and let them highlight the situation and how long it has been going on without action from the Gardai. It's highly possible that the culprit or their family aren't aware of this conversation here and bringing it into the public eye would get some memories jogging or it may even weed the culprit out.

    Good idea as that is, but I cant see our local papers ousting our local cops.

    I think something should be done though, a very serious accident is on the cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭germanator


    exactly, i bet if it was somthing the cops actually did do though it would have a big write up, when they do nothing on the other hand its kept quite! What can be done though as the gardai clearly have better things to do like sit in the station stuffing their faces!! Im surprised the company working there have not got a security person there to keep an eye on things even for a night or 2 as its happening for hours on end every single night.
    I wonder what would happen if there was a serious accident, who would be found at fault if cars were diverted into the wrong lanes and hit each other?


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