Oh Lord Kill Me Now...

Sindri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM

Discuss this vile harlot.

Custardpi

/civilisation

rcaz

What's wrong with it?

Custardpi

Ugly, cheap looking video. a chorus which consists of the same line repeated over & over again, a beatline which sounds like a cd player skipping, lyrics which sound like they were written by an 8 year old, that enough for you? I get that this is a video in which she's dissing her "haterz" or whatever the ridiculous phrase is, but that sort of thing has been done way, way better before, not that many of Minaj's 14 year old demographic would be aware of it. It's sad that female hip hop gone from such gems as Missy Elliott to trash like this.

rcaz

Custardpi wrote: »

Ugly, cheap looking video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

Custardpi wrote: »

a chorus which consists of the same line repeated over & over again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikKzQwgBJc

Custardpi wrote: »

a beatline which sounds like a cd player skipping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iiK4MgIPtI

Custardpi wrote: »

lyrics which sound like they were written by an 8 year old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRk0sjSgFU

All fantastic things.

Custardpi wrote: »

It's sad that female hip hop gone from such gems as Missy Elliott to trash like this.

Yes, all female hip hop is summarised by this track.

Sinfonia

rcaz wrote: »

All fantastic things.

Perhaps in isolation.

C'mon, for once just admit something is utter shit.

Custardpi

Now you're just being silly. Everything In Its Right Place does not sound like an 8 year old wrote it. Simple lyrics are not the same as infantile. Once in A Lifetime wasn't that bad of a video by the standards of the time, don't know why you think that's relevant. As for the others, yeah I guess you could make those criticisms, but you know what? All of the tracks you have listed could be critiqued in one form or another, but they have (in the case of the Radiohead one overwhelmingly so) many redeeming qualities to recommend them, whereas the Nicky Minaj song is just unsalvagable trash.
I didn't say that all female hip hop is represented by this song, but Nicky Minaj is one of the most played, high profile female artists in that genre today, like it or not (I personally don't).
Instead of engaging in weak, irrelevant, point-scoring whataboutery (with different tracks used to counter criticisms made of a single song rather than a single song of which all those criticisms could be made but which you could demonstrate was still good), why not outline what you think is good about this turd of a song?

Jim_Kiy

It actually ok music..clinical production but the video shows overwhelming arrogance and bad taste in large quantities ..its the video that really sucks.

Custardpi

Jim_Kiy wrote: »

It actually ok music..clinical production but the video shows overwhelming arrogance and bad taste in large quantities ..its the video that really sucks.

Ah come on, even by Nicky Minaj's standards this is woeful. I'll admit to actually kind of liking Superbass in a "not the worst thing ever to grace the charts" kind of way but this irretrievably bad. I'd personally rate the song as being far worse than the video, bad & all as it is.

Skerries

Oh Mammmmmeeeeeeeee!

milehip1

Custardpi wrote: »

Ugly, cheap looking video.

Still probably cost a couple of million

song is pure Southpark Tweenwave

catbird

Custardpi wrote: »

Now you're just being silly. Everything In Its Right Place does not sound like an 8 year old wrote it. Simple lyrics are not the same as infantile. Once in A Lifetime wasn't that bad of a video by the standards of the time, don't know why you think that's relevant. As for the others, yeah I guess you could make those criticisms, but you know what? All of the tracks you have listed could be critiqued in one form or another, but they have (in the case of the Radiohead one overwhelmingly so) many redeeming qualities to recommend them, whereas the Nicky Minaj song is just unsalvagable trash.
I didn't say that all female hip hop is represented by this song, but Nicky Minaj is one of the most played, high profile female artists in that genre today, like it or not (I personally don't).
Instead of engaging in weak, irrelevant, point-scoring whataboutery (with different tracks used to counter criticisms made of a single song rather than a single song of which all those criticisms could be made but which you could demonstrate was still good), why not outline what you think is good about this turd of a song?

Everything in its right place doesnt sound like its written by an 8 year old , really?

Everything in its right place
There are two colours in my head
yesterday i woke sucking a lemon

hmm

I think your missing rcaz's point though

guitarzero

Just skipped to bits of the song, yeah, wow, everyone involved in this song should be brought to a court of law and killed by a jury of hungry bears. What a joke. Do young girls even stand a chance if they view this as something to idolize? Beh.

Custardpi

catbird wrote: »

Everything in its right place doesnt sound like its written by an 8 year old , really?

Everything in its right place
There are two colours in my head
yesterday i woke sucking a lemon

hmm

I think your missing rcaz's point though

Oh I get rcaz's point completely, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is. Like I said above, he/she was unable to show me a song which had all of the flaws possessed by Stupid Hoe & which still worked well as a song, but instead picked individual songs that could be critiqued in relation to individual points I made regarding this one song - a weak & irrelevant response given the redeeming qualities of all of the songs he/she attempted to use to counter my arguments.

Stupid Hoe is not simply a flawed song (I accept that you could say that to a greater or lesser extent of all the songs which rcaz mentioned in his lame whataboutery post), it is a song with no redeeming features whatsoever, none. Instead of engaging in whataboutery (the first refuge of the internet fool) why not actually explain to me what the great qualities of Stupid Hoe are?

rcaz

Custardpi wrote: »

Oh I get rcaz's point completely, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is. Like I said above, he/she was unable to show me a song which had all of the flaws possessed by Stupid Hoe & which still worked well as a song, but instead picked individual songs that could be critiqued in relation to individual points I made regarding this one song - a weak & irrelevant response given the redeeming qualities of all of the songs he/she attempted to use to counter my arguments.

I don't think you do get my point... Was it not pretty obvious that my argument was meant tongue-in-cheek? Trying to argue for why a pop song is 'bad' using any sort of musical analysis is completely missing the point of a pop tune (don't get me wrong there is lots of pop that does stand up to discussion and analysis, but this isn't one of them). Yes my argument was weak and irrelevant, because you're trying to argue about taste. Someone might really like this song for no other reason than 'I like it', and you can't account for that. So what's the point in trying to make these points about parts of the song that are weak?

Custardpi wrote: »

Stupid Hoe is not simply a flawed song (I accept that you could say that to a greater or lesser extent of all the songs which rcaz mentioned in his lame whataboutery post), it is a song with no redeeming features whatsoever, none.

Stupid Hoe does exactly what it needs to do for the kind of song it is. There are a million hooks people can remember and sing along with, the beat is extremely danceable, the chorus contagious. It's obviously a song made for iPods and phones and dancefloors, not proper listening, and it fits that market perfectly. You're trying to take apart an empty, disposable pop song with the analysis of someone really interested in proper listening music - I think you're the one missing the point here. This music wasn't made for that purpose, but it is excellent at the things it was made to do. If you don't believe me go to Propaganda or somewhere like that.

Custardpi wrote: »

Instead of engaging in whataboutery (the first refuge of the internet fool) why not actually explain to me what the great qualities of Stupid Hoe are?

To be fair you didn't explain to me what the awful qualities of it were, you just suggested that four particular aspects of the song were 'bad' aspects - I happen to really enjoy all of the songwriting devices you listed, in any song I've heard them in. I don't get why they should contribute to this being definitively bad at all.

Please don't call me a fool when you're just not getting my argument.

antodeco

Why is she singing along to a car alarm?

Sindri

antodeco wrote: »

Why is she singing along to a car alarm?

Because she's special.

dark crystal

Yeah, that's pretty fuc*ing terrible alright. I wasn't sure if another female R&B singer could eclipse the sheer awfulness of Rhianna and Keisha, but it looks like this young lady might just overtake them.

Sadly, my teenage daughter will probably have this as her ringtone soon.

ricero

i agree thats the worst song ive heard in a long time. how the **** did it even get the green light to get released

Rothko

That has to be one of the worst things ever I've heard. I know that music is subjective but I really can't understand how someone could actually enjoy listening to that.

HalloweenJack

Dear God, that's terrible. Everything about it, the lyrics, the beat, awful crap.

In fairness, though, Nicki Minaj is good at one thing: softcore porn for the deaf.