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Entitled to child benefit while in Australia?

  • 16-02-2012 11:21am
    #1
    my475visaquest
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭


    Hi, I have secured a visa sponsorship for 4 years work in australia, but as I am not going for good, I was wondering if we are entitled to child benefit from home (Ireland).
    Apparently I would not be entitled to Australian child benefit!
    Thanks.


Comments

  • #2
    Lugh Ildanach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Lugh Ildanach


    Is the child or your partner/spouse still going to be living in Ireland?


  • #3
    my475visaquest
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭my475visaquest


    No, they would be with me for the duration of the contract!


  • #4
    Lugh Ildanach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Lugh Ildanach


    The child has to be "ordinarily resident" in Ireland to be able to claim Child Benefit.

    The parent has to be "habitually resident".

    The two terms are different. If you maintain a house in Ireland and the contract is only temporary, then you can still be considered habitually resident. see guidelines on habitual residence http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/habres.aspx

    There are no guidelines on what is considered ordinary residence for the children. But the Child Benefit guidelines do give examples of cases which are considered to meet this automatically (eg. oversees service as part of Free State army, or if you are paying Irish PRSI while working abroad). While none of these cases meet your exact circumstances, you could certainly argue that the children are ordinarily resident in Ireland, and that are only out of the State for a few months.

    If refused, you can appeal!


  • #5
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,164 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Lugh Ildanach wrote: »
    and that are only out of the State for a few months.

    If refused, you can appeal!

    4 years is hardly a few months!


  • #6
    my475visaquest
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭my475visaquest


    Thats a great help my friend!
    I will be considered to be a temporary resident in Australia on this type of visa, and I am still paying my mortgage in Ireland too, so I will continue to look into it!
    Thanks a mill!


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  • #7
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I highly doubt it OP.
    Maybe you should look more definitively into the Australian entitlement to same.


  • #8
    Cedrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    Lugh Ildanach wrote: »
    But the Child Benefit guidelines do give examples of cases which are considered to meet this automatically (eg. oversees service as part of Free State army, or if you are paying Irish PRSI while working abroad).

    The child would be 75+ and qualify for a pension by now if their parent was in that army.


  • #9
    Lugh Ildanach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Lugh Ildanach


    Dovies wrote: »
    4 years is hardly a few months!

    Sorry, I had thought it was 4 months. No, 4 years is not going to be considered ordinarily resident, and you would likely be considered by the Irish authorities as habitually resident in Australia, not Ireland, even if you did keep up your property and other links here.

    No Child Benefit, sorry!


  • #10
    Lugh Ildanach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Lugh Ildanach


    Cedrus wrote: »
    The child would be 75+ and qualify for a pension by now if their parent was in that army.

    Entitlement to Child Benefit stops when child reaches 18, or 16 if they have left full-time education.


  • #11
    cee_jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    From the Child Benefit guidelines http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/childben.aspx:

    Child Benefit is not payable outside the State except for the specific groups mentioned above.

    The specific groups are:
    members of the Irish Defence Forces or the Irish Civil Service serving abroad,
    volunteer development workers, or
    persons temporarily employed abroad by an Irish employer and paying Irish social insurance contributions


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