Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Madam

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

This is standard patter for Jelle, he's well known for it on ff and was only a matter of time before it came out on here.

Ah, so he's a rabid bluenose(not the nice guy he likes to put across):rolleyes:

Eirebear

Lubo, seriously - you must spend more time on FF than the majority of that forums own users.

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

Lubo, seriously - you must spend more time on FF than the majority of that forums own users.

Eirebear, seriously. I don't.

Eirebear

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Eirebear, seriously. I don't.

yeah, whatever.

To be quite frank, if i wanted to know what was going on over at FF i'd sign up and read it. Your little character reports into their members bring very little to the discussion.

Attack the argument, not the man.

PauloMN

Eirebear wrote: »

That said, the Celtic fans getting on their high horse regarding it, need only look to the constant referal to they way their own fans constantly refer to the Murder of Mark Scott as a way of tarring all of the Rangers support with the one brush for an example of how both sets of fans can stoop to levels which are pretty shocking.

Here we go, the old "I don't agree with it" line with a huge big "BUT" at the end.

Eirebear - seriously, how can you accuse Celtic fans of getting on their high horse about something as twisted as child abuse being used as a retort? I don't care who says it or why, but using that as a retort to the Jelly and Ice Cream thing is just sick.

Also in what context do Celtic fans constantly refer to the murder of Mark Scott to tar all supporters of Rangers with that brush? How often have you heard this?

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

yeah, whatever.

To be quite frank, if i wanted to know what was going on over at FF i'd sign up and read it. Your little character reports into their members bring very little to the discussion.

Attack the argument, not the man.

Yeah whatever me all you want. Haven't you commented on me being on the huddleboard??
Attack the argument, not the man??You were on here saying Aberdeen fans are scum of the earth for singing about the ibrox disaster.

fionnsda

The Rangers Charity Foundation say it will donate most of monies raised at the Milan Legends game to the Club

charity case

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

Here we go, the old "I don't agree with it" line with a huge big "BUT" at the end.

Eirebear - seriously, how can you accuse Celtic fans of getting on their high horse about something as twisted as child abuse being used as a retort? I don't care who says it or why, but using that as a retort to the Jelly and Ice Cream thing is just sick.

Also in what context do Celtic fans constantly refer to the murder of Mark Scott to tar all supporters of Rangers with that brush? How often have you heard this?

Bit rich coming from yourself to be honest Paul.

You can be guaranteed that if something can be brought down to the lowest levels of depravity, it'll be a Dignity FC fan that does it.

If that's not a high horse, then christ knows what is.

As for the Mark Scott thing, the latest outing was only week or so ago, all because Rangers fans sang a naughty song.

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Well I suppose this guy was nearly up to his knees in a Celtic fans blood then :rolleyes: The difference here is that there are some Rangers fans who will act out the lyric

I do apologise if my opinion offends you, but to be quite honest this thread has become less about administration as it has the ritual slaughter of Rangers FC and Rangers fans, god forbid we should try and defend ourselves in a sensible manner eh? :rolleyes:

Lubo - I can assure you io have never dug you up for personality traits shown on another forum. I may have said something along the lines of "Leave that for the huddleboard" but i sure as hell have never traced you to another forum in order to use it as a weapon against you on here. In fact i have been outspoken about that kind of behaviour in the past, i find it slightly creepy if i'm being honest.

As for your point about Aberdeen fans, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes, i said aberdeen fans are scum for what they were singing - how does that equate to a discussion with another forum member, and how does that relate to digging stuff up from other forums?
Nice try pal, but you'll need to make more sense in the future.

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

Bit rich coming from yourself to be honest Paul.

If that's not a high horse, then christ knows what is.

As for the Mark Scott thing, the latest outing was only a few weeks ago, all because Rangers fans sang a naughty song.

I do apologise if my opinion offends you, but to be quite honest this thread has become less about administration as it has the ritual slaughter of Rangers FC and Rangers fans, god forbid we should try and defend ourselves in a sensible manner eh? :rolleyes:

Lubo - I can assure you io have never dug you up for personality traits shown on another forum. I may have said something along the lines of "Leave that for the huddleboard" but i sure as hell have never traced you to another forum in order to use it as a weapon against you on here. In fact i have been outspoken about that kind of behaviour in the past, i find it slightly creepy if i'm being honest.

As for your point about Aberdeen fans, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes, i said aberdeen fans are scum for what they were singing - how does that equate to a discussion with another forum member, and how does that relate to digging stuff up from other forums?
Nice try pal, but you'll need to make more sense in the future.

yeah, whatever :rolleyes:
you might think it creepy, i like to know who am talking to. No one who spouts that kinda stuff will be known as mate, pal, buddy etc etc on here or elsewhere.
If an Aberdeen fan is scum for shouting about that, then in my eyes a rangers 'fan' is equally scum for shouting about child abuse.

lubo_moravcik

Rangers (in administration) have 21 days to pay or they will be suspended from PLUS, another 7 days and it's permanent exclusion.
It means that Rangers (in administration) as it stands at the minute could never look for new investment through a share issue - they will be barred from the stock exchange for breaking its rules.

This makes liquidation evern more likely, as if by some miracle they manage to get Whyte's 80% of shares off him, they can't float them for sale publicly anyways.

That wee £50,000 fine wouldn't have helped matters much either today

Eirebear

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

yeah, whatever :rolleyes:
you might think it creepy, i like to know who am talking to. No one who spouts that kinda stuff will be known as mate, pal, buddy etc etc on here or elsewhere.
If an Aberdeen fan is scum for shouting about that, then in my eyes a rangers 'fan' is equally scum for shouting about child abuse.

I don't know if you actually read my posts or not - but i've quite recently said that i completely disagree with it being used as a football chant, or as a retort on places like this.

RoryMac

Eirebear wrote: »

Bit rich coming from yourself to be honest Paul.

If that's not a high horse, then christ knows what is.

As for the Mark Scott thing, the latest outing was only week or so ago, all because Rangers fans sang a naughty song.

I do apologise if my opinion offends you, but to be quite honest this thread has become less about administration as it has the ritual slaughter of Rangers FC and Rangers fans, god forbid we should try and defend ourselves in a sensible manner eh? :rolleyes:

Lubo - I can assure you io have never dug you up for personality traits shown on another forum. I may have said something along the lines of "Leave that for the huddleboard" but i sure as hell have never traced you to another forum in order to use it as a weapon against you on here. In fact i have been outspoken about that kind of behaviour in the past, i find it slightly creepy if i'm being honest.

As for your point about Aberdeen fans, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes, i said aberdeen fans are scum for what they were singing - how does that equate to a discussion with another forum member, and how does that relate to digging stuff up from other forums?
Nice try pal, but you'll need to make more sense in the future.

Insinuating that Celtic fans singing a song that makes fun of Rangers current issues is somehow a song referring to child abuse is sensible?????

PauloMN

I'll stand over what I said before. Rangers fans have a habit of pushing way past the boundaries of common decency. BJK and TFS are recent examples from the terraces, and the references to child abuse from a Rangers fan here being the tipping point in this thread.

If that's "defending ourselves in a sensible manner", I don't know what else to say.

Eirebear

RoryMac wrote: »

Insinuating that Celtic fans singing a song that makes fun of Rangers current issues is somehow a song referring to child abuse is sensible?????

Jesus christ.

Where did i say that? Read the conversation again and you'll find i was referring to this

Here we go, the old "I don't agree with it" line with a huge big "BUT" at the end.

EDIT - Same goes for you Paul.
it seems common sense left this thread a long time ago.

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

I don't know if you actually read my posts or not - but i've quite recently said that i completely disagree with it being used as a football chant, or as a retort on places like this.

Am not having a go at you on here regarding this though, I'm saying he's scum for his posts and it was just a matter of time before the mask slipped.

Eirebear

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Am not having a go at you on here regarding this though, I'm saying he's scum for his posts and it was just a matter of time before the mask slipped.

I know you're not having a go at me in particular - i was just pointing out that i'm not particularly comfortable with trawling other forums to find ways of dealing with others on here.
It's obviously something we'll have to agree to disagree on though.

RoryMac

Eirebear wrote: »

Jesus christ.

Where did i say that? Read the conversation again and you'll find i was referring to this


EDIT - Same goes for you Paul.
it seems common sense left this thread a long time ago.

I think you should clarify the comment "however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion" which came before the quote below which you claim it referred to

Here we go, the old "I don't agree with it" line with a huge big "BUT" at the end.

premierstone

Eirebear wrote: »

Attack the argument, not the man.

Anyone who read what he posted could not in any seriousness refer to him as a ''man'', and we can all say things in the heat of the moment or without appreciating the consequences but to then defend he's post the way he has is actually sickening.

ColeTrain

Jelle1880 wrote: »

If there's one person who's dodging, deflecting,... it's you (And every Celtic fan who's confronted with it, it seems. I have yet to see one who would actually condemn what happened, rather they talk about 'How it's in bad taste to talk about it' and attack those that have the audacity to bring it up).

This is not about scoring points, but about showing how stupid the song is.
Or are you denying the fact that Alan Brazil was indeed given 'ice cream and jelly' by Torbett ?

Are you really failing to see the idiocy of singing that song when your club has a disgusting history regarding it ?

Pathetic. Your mask is indeed slipping.

Eirebear

RoryMac wrote: »

I think you should clarify the comment "however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion" which came before the quote below which you claim it referred to

Sorry, what?

Eirebear

premierstone wrote: »

Anyone who read what he posted could not in any seriousness refer to him as a ''man'', and we can all say things in the heat of the moment or without appreciating the consequences but to then defend he's post the way he has is actually sickening.

My point still stands, i find bringing other forums and messageboards into it a little creepy.

RoryMac

Eirebear wrote: »

Sorry, what?

What did you mean when you said "however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion" ?

Eirebear

RoryMac wrote: »

What did you mean when you said "however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion" ?

I meant.
"however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion"

What's so hard to understand about that?

premierstone

Eirebear wrote: »

My point still stands, i find bringing other forums and messageboards into it a little creepy.

Its not really the issue here though, the issue at hand is a far more serious one than other forums or messageboards and tbh anyone that hasnt anything to hide should have no problem with it.

Eirebear

premierstone wrote: »

Its not really the issue here though, the issue at hand is a far more serious one than other forums or messageboards and tbh anyone that hasnt anything to hide should have no problem with it.

I think you'll find i addressed my opinion on the issue seperately, and it somehow got mixed up in the whole thing.

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

I know you're not having a go at me in particular - i was just pointing out that i'm not particularly comfortable with trawling other forums to find ways of dealing with others on here.
It's obviously something we'll have to agree to disagree on though.

yeah whatever me all you want, but i don't 'trawl other forums' or anything like it to see other people. I signed up to FF a few years ago for the laugh, to see how the others live, to feel their pain and rage :mad: I've been in the threads about child abuse and seen his posts.

RoryMac

Eirebear wrote: »

I meant.
"however it should not be turned into a chant from the stands in my honest opinion"

What's so hard to understand about that?

Cool so now we understand each other I'll ask again is Insinuating that Celtic fans singing a song that makes fun of Rangers current issues is somehow a song referring to child abuse is sensible?????

Eirebear

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

yeah whatever me all you want, but i don't 'trawl other forums' or anything like it to see other people. I signed up to FF a few years ago for the laugh, to see how the others live, to feel their pain and rage :mad: I've been in the threads about child abuse and seen his posts.

Fine FFS - I just said i'm happy to agree to disagree on this one.

Maybe that pain and rage is infectious?

Eirebear

RoryMac wrote: »

Cool so now we understand each other I'll ask again is Insinuating that Celtic fans singing a song that makes fun of Rangers current issues is somehow a song referring to child abuse is sensible?????

And where did i insinuate that?

lubo_moravcik

Eirebear wrote: »

Fine FFS - I just said i'm happy to agree to disagree on this one.

Maybe that pain and rage is infectious?

Obviously with the FFS :mad: