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Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,747 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The headline is on the money though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Is it ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    The headline is on the money though

    Get to **** with that nonsense.

    Anybody read it? As usual, writing about a problem in Scotland he clearly knows nothing about. Hate filled club? What's his article then? Moron.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Get to **** with that nonsense.

    Anybody read it? As usual, writing about a problem in Scotland he clearly knows nothing about. Hate filled club? What's his article then? Moron.

    No surprise to see Rangers fan disagreeing with it.

    I read it. He talks about the BillyBoys and how thousands sung it, you can't say that's nonsense and it is his opinion after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    No surprise to see Rangers fan disagreeing with it.

    I read it. He talks about the BillyBoys and how thousands sung it, you can't say that's nonsense and it is his opinion after all.

    He also says that the guy who committed the murder was a "Billy Boy" which is crap as they have not existed since the 50s. So he doesn't have his facts right


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,226 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    No surprise to see Rangers fan disagreeing with it.

    I read it. He talks about the BillyBoys and how thousands sung it, you can't say that's nonsense and it is his opinion after all.

    It's full of lies too, but I get that Celtic fans won't be too itk about some of the stuff he writes.
    'a club marinated in blood'
    'As late as 1999 the vice-chairman of Rangers was forced to resign for singing anti-Catholic songs.' ?

    Findlay resigned for singing The Sash, which is not anti-Catholic at all.
    Jason Campbell, a 'Brigton Billy Boy', was jailed for life for cutting the throat of 16-year-old Celtic supporter Mark Scott. That was in 1996; the original murderous Billy Boys of the 1920s were the inspiration for the sadistic Shankill Butchers who ritually dismembered Northern Catholics.
    Thousands of Rangers fans still sing that song. They know, for sure, that a Brigton Billy Boy slaughtered an innocent kid whose only crime was to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This alone is cause enough to bury the club in quicklime.

    Yeah, that song was sung to celebrate a murder, sure thing.
    Just like the Bouncy is about jumping on Catholic's heads no doubt :rolleyes:

    Not to mention that he can't even get his dates right.
    'It was back in 2000 and it was the day Celtic finally regained the Scottish Premiership. Ticketless, we watched the game in the Huddle Club in Royston.'

    I can't help but think this was written by a Celtic fan.

    And the fact Regan favourites it doesn't help our view about his impartiality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Aquila wrote: »
    So whats the new clubs crest and home jersey like?

    The same.

    We are still Rangers. Same stadium, fans, team, crest, strip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    No surprise to see Rangers fan disagreeing with it.

    I read it. He talks about the BillyBoys and how thousands sung it, you can't say that's nonsense and it is his opinion after all.

    Oh well then, it's his opinion.

    In that case we can all say what we like yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Aquila wrote: »
    So whats the new clubs crest and home jersey like?

    The same.

    We are still Rangers. Same stadium, fans, team, crest, strip.
    Yawn if you tell a lie often enough....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Regardless of the fact he's trying to bully clubs into accepting Rangers into SFL1, this has to be the end for Regan.

    He already once favourited a tweet that mentioned Lee McCullouch should be hanged, but this is on a whole different level:

    Regan.jpg

    The article is from the Irish Independent and is basically a long, hate-filled rant against everything Rangers-related.

    The fact that the Indo published this is quite something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    It's full of lies too, but I get that Celtic fans won't be too itk about some of the stuff he writes.


    Findlay resigned for singing The Sash, which is not anti-Catholic at all.

    Yeah, that song was sung to celebrate a murder, sure thing.
    Just like the Bouncy is about jumping on Catholic's heads no doubt :rolleyes:

    Not to mention that he can't even get his dates right.

    I can't help but think this was written by a Celtic fan.

    And the fact Regan favourites it doesn't help our view about his impartiality.

    It was written by a Celtic fan and it's subjective.

    You're never gonna agree with it or like it.
    Eirebear wrote: »
    Oh well then, it's his opinion.

    In that case we can all say what we like yes?

    Fire away but you're not gonna get paid for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Oh well then, it's his opinion.

    In that case we can all say what we like yes?

    You've a problem with a newspaper columnist giving his opinion?

    Anyone got a direct link to that article please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    You've a problem with a newspaper columnist giving his opinion?

    Anyone got a direct link to that article please?

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/farewell-to-a-club-steeped-in-bigotry-3161118.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Yawn if you tell a lie often enough....

    ...you end up with articles such as that in the Indo?
    ColeTrain wrote: »



    Fire away but you're not gonna get paid for it!

    having worked as a journalist, and still working within a journalistic context - i can assure you, you're right.
    Most of us are asked to check our facts.
    You've a problem with a newspaper columnist giving his opinion?

    Anyone got a direct link to that article please?

    No.
    I have a problem with an opinion piece of such inflammatory, and ill thought out nature being given what appear to be the back page of a national newspaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    bobmalooka wrote: »
    Yawn if you tell a lie often enough....

    Well we are still the same fans, same stadium, same crest, same strip.

    Even the same focus of obsession for a certain section of the Celtic support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    You've a problem with a newspaper columnist giving his opinion?

    Anyone got a direct link to that article please?

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/farewell-to-a-club-steeped-in-bigotry-3161118.html

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Well we are still the same fans, same stadium, same crest, same strip.

    Even the same focus of obsession for a certain section of the Celtic support.

    Hold on a sec, if a company goes bust and a new company is established, don't they have to change the crest? Unless the rights are transferred to the new company?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Well we are still the same fans, same stadium, same crest, same strip.

    Even the same focus of obsession for a certain section of the Celtic support.

    Hold on a sec, if a company goes bust and a new company is established, don't they have to change the crest? Unless the rights are transferred to the new company?

    They were mate, we have the same crest.

    Our away and third kits are out over the next 6 weeks, both have the same crest.

    Same as Doncaster said our history is still intact, but that's forbidden to say on here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Eirebear wrote: »

    having worked as a journalist, and still working within a journalistic context - i can assure you, you're right.
    Most of us are asked to check our facts.

    BBE and The Builder outlined outlined a few areas where the facts might not have been correct? But the core of the article is correct. His opinion would have been the same even if some of the dates weren't right or Findlay sang the Sash instead of the BillyBoys.
    Eirebear wrote: »

    having worked as a journalist, and still working within a journalistic context - i can assure you, you're right.
    Most of us are asked to check our facts.


    No.
    I have a problem with an opinion piece of such inflammatory, and ill thought out nature being given what appear to be the back page of a national newspaper.

    Hardly inflammatory seeing as there were about 20 Rangers fans in Ireland :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    BBE and The Builder outlined outlined a few areas where the facts might not have been correct? But the core of the article is correct. His opinion would have been the same even if some of the dates weren't right or Findlay sang the Sash instead of the BillyBoys.



    Hardly inflammatory seeing as there were about 20 Rangers fans in Ireland :)

    Correct?

    Not in the slightest - it stinks of the "journalist" being the very same as the people who come on here spouting ignorant bull****.
    He's probably never even met a rangers fan, and his trips to Glasgow are spent in the Gallowgate dives and the Garngad listening to stories of oppression.
    Ignorance on the back page of a national newspaper.

    And i know you're at the wind up with the second part - but it's inflammatory, as this thread and multiple others online have proven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Correct?

    Not in the slightest - it stinks of the "journalist" being the very same as the people who come on here spouting ignorant bull****.
    He's probably never even met a rangers fan, and his trips to Glasgow are spent in the Gallowgate dives and the Garngad listening to stories of oppression.
    Ignorance on the back page of a national newspaper.

    And i know you're at the wind up with the second part - but it's inflammatory, as this thread and multiple others online have proven.

    Rangers didn't have an anti Catholic signing policy and the fans didn't sing "go on home" or the BillyBoys?
    There's no point in pretending it's all wrong

    I am a little surprised to have seen it printed but I have yet to meet a person in Ireland that has told me about their love for Rangers. This journalist has come out and said it. Maybe he got some dates wrong and there's a few inaccuracies but it's a viewpoint that would be held by a lot of people and it's a viewpoint that wouldn't exist if Rangers had conducted themselves better across the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    off topic

    I think I could be one of the few, if only person in Ireland who knows more Rangers fans(all Irish) then Celtic.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    off topic

    I think I could be one of the few, if only person in Ireland who knows more Rangers fans(all Irish) then Celtic.

    Where do you be hanging around?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Where do you be hanging around?!

    Good question.:pac:

    Honestly from Cork I know 3 lads, and in Dublin I know 4.

    One my best mates is Celtic fan and other then 2 other guys I know, nobody else I know is Celic fan. Well bar the few who casually supported them in Europe and OF games.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Rangers didn't have an anti Catholic signing policy and the fans didn't sing "go on home" or the BillyBoys?
    There's no point in pretending it's all wrong

    I am a little surprised to have seen it printed but I have yet to meet a person in Ireland that has told me about their love for Rangers. This journalist has come out and said it. Maybe he got some dates wrong and there's a few inaccuracies but it's a viewpoint that would be held by a lot of people and it's a viewpoint that wouldn't exist if Rangers had conducted themselves better across the board.

    It's a viewpoint borne of ignorance.
    Plain and simple.

    Just because it was printed in Ireland doesn't make it ok - it's ignorant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Eirebear wrote: »
    It's a viewpoint borne of ignorance.
    Plain and simple.

    Just because it was printed in Ireland doesn't make it ok - it's ignorant.

    So anyone that would hold that viewpoint is ignorant? Rangers must be just completely misunderstood then..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    So anyone that would hold that viewpoint is ignorant? Rangers must be just completely misunderstood then..
    You're an intelligent guy - read the article and tell me he isnt playing to the lowest common denominator here.

    He cites a murder from 14 years ago, in a city which has one of the hisghtest per capita murder rates in the Europe.
    I've spoke about my feelings on that horrible crime on this forum in the past - I find it sickening just how often it has become some sort of fall back from elements of the Celtic support in order to simply get one up on the Rangers support.

    It's utterly appaling that a national newspaper would give this kind of action back page space imo.

    He speaks of how he drank in the huddle club, and was welcomed by the good "irish" folk of the Garngad on Old Firm day.
    Well now - does he expect to hear nice stories about Rangers in The Huddle Club on Old Firm day?
    He'll have heard a lot of Republican, anti-british songs though - these are perfectly acceptable in Britain you see.

    Once again we have a case of an Irishman, donning his Celtic top and heading to Glasgow - whilst there he hangs around in Celtic supporters bars, with celtic supporters, talking about Celtic.
    Can you see where this is going?

    If "Billy Keane" would like to come and meet some Rangers supporters, i'll gladly take him out in Glasgow. I think it would be a valuable experience.
    Because it won't be untill he meets at least one bear, that he will be able to write a balanced article instead of his hate filled drivel.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    Get to **** with that nonsense.

    Anybody read it? As usual, writing about a problem in Scotland he clearly knows nothing about. Hate filled club? What's his article then? Moron.

    Some home truths there in that Indo article about the club formerly known as Glasgow Rangers. The death of that club gives an opportunity for the emergence of a new club free from the unsavoury baggage of the past. People like yourself who want to support the new club, should relish the opportunity to throw your support behind the new club with no baggage attached I reckon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    They were mate, we have the same crest.

    Our away and third kits are out over the next 6 weeks, both have the same crest.

    Same as Doncaster said our history is still intact, but that's forbidden to say on here.

    is it confirmed that the money from sales of these kits will go to old rangers in administration or sevco? or even if sevco will ever play in them? or if sevco are entitled to call themselves Rangers/the rangers?

    Doncaster will say/do whatever is necessary to keep milking Rangers fans.

    a dude called Charles Green owns (or claims to own) Ibrox, Murray park and the carpark. He do's not own a football club. Rangers Football club still exists (for the time being) have ye walked away in favour of Sevco which at the moment is a property holding company?


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