Working in Northern Ireland – Family here

water-man

Was made redundant in Jan this year. Managed to secure employment quickly and will be starting a new job in Northern Irenad soon.

Whilst it great I was able to get a new job I don't want to up root the family just yet.

As I will now be paying 2 rents, electricity bills, increased diesl bills, two cars etc are we entitled to get any help from Social welfare/CWO?

I'm asking as financially I would be better off not working (claiming JSB, rent etc) than I am working in NI. I have done some rough calculations and I will be doing really well if we will have Eur30 at the end of each week fro treats/savings.

Part of me thinks I'm daft going away to work where my wages will just cover my necessary out goings and will have nothing left to use for treats/savings.

If I was to just calim JSB etc I'd get Eur340 per week + medical card + rent allowance + see my family every day + only need one car. So from a financial point of view I shouldn't bother working.

I'm just really asking is there any hope for some help? Where can I get some more info?

Thanks in advance,

WM

Francescoli

Call to your local CWO but I doubt you will get anything from them.No harm in asking.

jimmycrackcorm

Op it is your choice not to uproot your family and consequently pay two rents etc so you cannot accept that the cwo will be considerate of such.

Richard

water-man wrote: »

Was made redundant in Jan this year. Managed to secure employment quickly and will be starting a new job in Northern Irenad soon.

Whilst it great I was able to get a new job I don't want to up root the family just yet.

As I will now be paying 2 rents, electricity bills, increased diesl bills, two cars etc are we entitled to get any help from Social welfare/CWO?

I'm asking as financially I would be better off not working (claiming JSB, rent etc) than I am working in NI. I have done some rough calculations and I will be doing really well if we will have Eur30 at the end of each week fro treats/savings.

Part of me thinks I'm daft going away to work where my wages will just cover my necessary out goings and will have nothing left to use for treats/savings.

If I was to just calim JSB etc I'd get Eur340 per week + medical card + rent allowance + see my family every day + only need one car. So from a financial point of view I shouldn't bother working.

I'm just really asking is there any hope for some help? Where can I get some more info?

Thanks in advance,

WM

I seem to remember issues surrounding people who went to NI, GB or elsewhere to work, then came back home and had difficulty claiming unemployment benefit back home as they had been working "abroad".

I know this isn't the situation you currently find yourself in, but it is worth investigating if you will ever want to move back south without a job to go to.

castie

Isnt it the situation where if you work in the UK then your family are to claim the respective benefits there rather than where they live?

i.e if on the border to the south and work in the north then any social welfare will be from the north?

Could be wrong about that though.

Lugh Ildanach

Are you in receipt of rent supplement? If so, you'll lose it if you're working more than 30 hours a week. Have you taken that into consideration?

If your other half isn't also working in the 26 Counties, then you'll also lose your entitlement to Child Benefit from the Free State authorities, but will be able to claim Family Allowance, and maybe also Family Tax Credits from the UK authorities. You won't lose any money through this, as if you're entitled to less from the UK authorities, the Free State authorities will pay the difference to make sure that you maintain at least the amount that you current receive on Child Benefit.

In short, there is no extra help that you'll get from the Community Welfare Officer. If anything, you will lose existing entitlements. You would need to check out what you may be entitled to from the UK authorities.

creaghadoos

http://www.borderpeople.info/index.htm

try this site. they will answer any questions you have and will give you the info needed.

you still qualify for FIS whilst working in the north, you can chose to claim tax credits in the north, but this affects your childrens allowance.

taytoRking?

they wont take into account any money you earn in another country regarding tax breaks here.....

ur better off uprooting or staying on social until this goverment copson and helps people who want to work....

my daughter moved down to the midlands with me and the local school wont take her back as she left to go to school in dublin....shes now stuck with no school to go too and will more than likely drift into the social system as the so called education officer i talked too cant make the local school take her...so because of red tape another young early school leaver will live her life on other peoples tax..and i'll encourage it because of the raw deal she's getting....

but good luck with ur new job mate well done...

creaghadoos

also forgot to say that should you claim tax credits up north you will also be entitled to full healthcare for you and all dependants

theg81der

water-man wrote: »

If I was to just calim JSB etc I'd get Eur340 per week + medical card + rent allowance + see my family every day + only need one car. So from a financial point of view I shouldn't bother working.WM

Well you wouldn`t get €340 a week, you, your partner and 1 child(?) would get €340 after which you would have to pay an ever increasing amount towards your rent. You still have all the other bills like your insurance aswell. If you would be 30 up after paying 2 rents, 2 cars etc your wage must be fairly good. There is absolutely no guarentee, and judging by the media game the Government seems to be playing, that dole will remain the same money or term wise so I would not be counting on that if I had any other oppurtunities.

Can you not just move your family after a month if the job is ok, this gives you a good chance to see if it suits or not? A couple of hours down the road is hardly the worlds biggest deal considering your renting anyway.