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fly wheel mondeo tdci

  • 11-02-2012 1:15am
    #1
    Fatlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭


    Lads ,
    I went out car shopping today and seen a nice 06 mondeo tdci with100k on the clock for five grand . when i started the engine there was a major rattle in the engine . actually it was like sitting on a tractor . The sales man went to ask his colleague what the problem was and he said it needed a new fly wheel . not a big job he said and they would have it sorted before i take it . the car only comes with a 3 month warranty so i'm a bit nervy about it . am i right to be suspicious of this car ? the noise goes out of it with acceleration but starts again when idling . any advice would be great

    Ta !:confused:


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  • #2
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Dual mass flywheels give a fair bit of trouble in them. 100k miles is about the average lifespan of them. You have realised there is a problem with it and the garage is going to sort it before sale. I don't see what there is to be suspicious about to be honest.


  • #3
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Ask if they can get a kit to convert it to a solid flywheel. It would be a good job once done.


  • #4
    gyppo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    George Dalton wrote: »
    Dual mass flywheels give a fair bit of trouble in them. 100k miles is about the average lifespan of them. You have realised there is a problem with it and the garage is going to sort it before sale. I don't see what there is to be suspicious about to be honest.

    slighty going off topic here, but whats the longest anyone has seen one of these last - any 200k milers ever seen on their original flywheel for example?


  • #5
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    The highest I have seen was 180k miles approx. The flywheel was noisy for a long time before being changed though.


  • #6
    pred racer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭pred racer


    The dual mass flywheel is one of the major worries when buying a second hand deysul, this one is going to be fixed before you get it. Result!


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  • #7
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭creedp


    bbam wrote: »
    Ask if they can get a kit to convert it to a solid flywheel. It would be a good job once done.

    What is the difference between the solid and dual mass flywheel and if the solid last longer why are dual mass flywheels installed originally by manufacturers and as a replacement in 2nd hand cars?


  • #8
    manu77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭manu77


    creedp wrote: »
    What is the difference between the solid and dual mass flywheel and if the solid last longer why are dual mass flywheels installed originally by manufacturers and as a replacement in 2nd hand cars?
    George will probably correct me on this but would'nt a solid flywheel rattle the sh1t out of the gearbox??Had a 130 tdci myself and had to replac e the flywheel and starter as the particles from the flywheel tend to go in an mince the starter so make sure the starters good to before any cash exchanges..


  • #9
    giggsy07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭giggsy07


    manu77 wrote: »
    George will probably correct me on this but would'nt a solid flywheel rattle the sh1t out of the gearbox??Had a 130 tdci myself and had to replac e the flywheel and starter as the particles from the flywheel tend to go in an mince the starter so make sure the starters good to before any cash exchanges..
    Sounds about right..Spent alot of cash replacing both on a similar model myself..:(


  • #10
    Savman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Does the early TDDi version suffer the same DMF issues?

    Have one myself and can only find conflicting info on the web on various forums etc.


  • #11
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    All the diesel variants suffered with DMF problems. A solid conversion on a 5 speed is usually ok but leads to a lot of extra gearbox noise with the 6 speed for some reason.


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  • #12
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    bbam wrote: »
    Ask if they can get a kit to convert it to a solid flywheel. It would be a good job once done.

    Only a solid kit for the TDCi model, only the TDDi model.

    OP wasn't a silver 5 door Dublin reg was it? I had one and the flywheel was one the way. Also check the steering, put on full lock both sides and see if their is a notching / pausing in the steering, happened mine, turn out the power steering was giving problems.


  • #13
    dan hibiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭dan hibiki


    Savman wrote: »
    Does the early TDDi version suffer the same DMF issues?

    Have one myself and can only find conflicting info on the web on various forums etc.

    i think that engines dmf lasts longer. mine is on 130mls on the original flywheel.


  • #14
    Fatlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭Fatlad


    George Dalton wrote: »
    Dual mass flywheels give a fair bit of trouble in them. 100k miles is about the average lifespan of them. You have realised there is a problem with it and the garage is going to sort it before sale. I don't see what there is to be suspicious about to be honest.

    to be honest i its probably the dealer i'm nervy about rather than the car itself . a two year old would have realised there was something up with the engine so i would have presumed they'd have it sorted before the had it polished up and presented for sale . dont know much about engines so wondered if he was spoofing me . once bitten and all that...


  • #15
    Fatlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭Fatlad


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Only a solid kit for the TDCi model, only the TDDi model.

    OP wasn't a silver 5 door Dublin reg was it? I had one and the flywheel was one the way. Also check the steering, put on full lock both sides and see if their is a notching / pausing in the steering, happened mine, turn out the power steering was giving problems.

    no , light blue .


  • #16
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Fatlad wrote: »
    to be honest i its probably the dealer i'm nervy about rather than the car itself . a two year old would have realised there was something up with the engine so i would have presumed they'd have it sorted before the had it polished up and presented for sale . dont know much about engines so wondered if he was spoofing me . once bitten and all that...


    Well if you are in doubt get a second opinion before you hand over the cash. To be honest €5k seems very cheap to me for a 2006 TDCI with average miles and a brand new flywheel fitted. We would be asking that much for a 2005 car.


  • #17
    Cucullan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Cucullan


    I've had my Mondeo 4 years and what your hearing isn't the flywheel but the Auxiliary belt tensioner and pulley, it's located down the drivers side of the engine and becomes very noisy when the car idle but gone when revved. Nothing too much to worry about especially if the garage is fixing it but a common part to go on Mondeos. I replaced mine shortly after I got the car and it was gone again after 12 months so for the last 3 years it's been noisy but doesn't affect the car other than been noisy like a tractor. I've asked three different mechanics about replacing it again and all said not to bother as it will be gone again in no time and costs nearly €250 fitted using ford parts.


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