Romanians charged with killing of Galway publican

Jack_Russell

Two people appeared before Galway District Court this morning in connection with the killing of publican and teacher John Kenny in Oughterard, Co Galway, last year. Another Romanian is due before Harristown District Court later today. He was first arrested last September in relation to the witholding of information in relation to the killing of Mr Kenny.

Yet another example of the human waste we are allowing into this country.
This man was tied to a chair and beaten to a pulp.
How many more outrages must we endure before this stupid Govt sees the need to screen all foreigners entering the country, including all those already here?

We have enough home-grown thugs without importing these animals.

This thread will doubtless be immediately closed, and I will be banned but scum like this will continue to come & go!:mad:


http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0203/kennyj.html

MagicMarker

Approx 50 murders a year and you're outraged at the one committed by the filthy foreeeingors...

orangebud

lol its been a a very racist week in ireland

token101

How many times have locals done the same thing? 100s? Romania is in the EU, you can't stop them even with a criminal record. Irish criminals go to the UK, Spain and Amsterdam daily. Should we all be screened heading on holidays? Tourism would grind to a halt.

Ever seen the Departed? They have an Irish Mafia in the US. They screen everyone. Doesn't always work.

Nothingbetter2d

we should just blame the foreigners on welfare with kids getting their communion for all of ireland's problems. :rolleyes:

Nothingbetter2d

token101 wrote: »

Should we all be screened heading on holidays? Tourism would grind to a halt.

the yanks have been screening visitors for years... ask the guys with the twitter account that got deported if you dont believe me.

walrusgumble

token101 wrote: »

How many times have locals done the same thing? 100s? Romania is in the EU, you can't stop them even with a criminal record. Irish criminals go to the UK, Spain and Amsterdam daily. Should we all be screened heading on holidays? Tourism would grind to a halt.

Ever seen the Departed? They have an Irish Mafia in the US. They screen everyone. Doesn't always work.

Actually, EU law can allow another EU state to remove people or refuse fellow EU citizens from a host country. It is difficult to do, but very possible , especially for murder, rape and drugs and all that has to be shown is that a country (and not a court or objective view) believed that there were serious grounds to act.

Maybe had to researched it, you would not make such a comment. Maybe then you would realise that there is a different between murders carried out by the Irish and murders carried out by foreigners.

I agree with what you are referring to with regard to every day practicalities, but once the person has been convicted they can be removed after serving them (again it will vastly depend on the circumstances and his history, but it is very possible to remove them). Refusing entry or immediate removal is also possible, look at Larry Murphy (rape/murder guy) in Spain, kicked out.


Articles 27-33 of Directive 2004/38 EC

amacachi

I agree with the OP, everyone should be screened. Not just people coming in or foreigners already here, everyone. Just to be logical ya know?

Gee Bag

I thought everyone was innocent until proven guilty.

token101

walrusgumble wrote: »

Actually, EU law can allow another EU state to remove people or refuse fellow EU citizens from a host country. It is difficult to do, but very possible , especially for murder, rape and drugs and all that has to be shown is that a country (and not a court or objective view) believed that there were serious grounds to act.

Maybe had to researched it, you would not make such a comment. Maybe then you would realise that there is a different between murders carried out by the Irish and murders carried out by foreigners.

I agree with what you are referring to with regard to every day practicalities, but once the person has been convicted they can be removed after serving them (again it will vastly depend on the circumstances and his history, but it is very possible to remove them). Refusing entry or immediate removal is also possible, look at Larry Murphy (rape/murder guy) in Spain, kicked out.


Articles 27-33 of Directive 2004/38 EC

Is there? Why? If my family was harmed should I feel better because the guy who did it was a local?

How do you know these guys had a criminal record in Romania? If they didn't the entire argument is void.

token101

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

the yanks have been screening visitors for years... ask the guys with the twitter account that got deported if you dont believe me.

It doesn't work unless there is already a record in another country. There's no evidence these guys were criminals in Romania, or for that matter are guilty of this crime! They haven't been tried yet. Do we just assume people are guilty if they're a certain nationality now? Tell that to the Guilford Four and B'ham Six.

walrusgumble

token101 wrote: »

Is there? Why? If my family was harmed should I feel better because the guy who did it was a local?

How do you know these guys had a criminal record in Romania? If they didn't the entire argument is void.

Hey, what you have said is entirely different and no connection with what I have said.

You said EU citizens can't be removed. I only said,you are partially incorrect, they can be removed.

I don't suggest , personally, whether they should or should not.

But now, I will.

If Ireland could remove our own criminals, they would. But law prevents you from deporting your own. Since we can deport non Irish, if such vehicle is there, and society needs it, do it.

How do I know these guys have records? Like you said, you won't really know by screening. You made a good point.

But, when they are arrested in Ireland, date searches are taken, via Interpol. If EU countries combined an even more improved co0operation with the Member State's police, any thing is possible.

Secondly, it does not matter a damn what they did in Romania etc if they committed heinous crimes in Ireland. If they are a danger to Ireland and Ireland only, and it could be justified, and Ireland deals with the criteria as per EU law, they can be removed, regardless if they were angels in Romanian.

I am sorry but your comment on that either indicates that you did not understand what I said (or I did not explain it properly) or you really are over your head on this. If you have any issues, I will happily spell it out and provide you with links to literature and sources.

For all we know, the Romanians in Galway, may have been fine up standing citizens in Romania. ( I never really uttered anything about criminals coming to Ireland, only it is possible to screen them - your right, there are practicalities) What they did in Ireland however, may,warrant deportation later. (may - EU law allows it,but makes it difficult)

I am not worried about them getting in, as you are arguing , but how to get them out, when caught. Understand?

walrusgumble

token101 wrote: »

It doesn't work unless there is already a record in another country. There's no evidence these guys were criminals in Romania, or for that matter are guilty of this crime! They haven't been tried yet. Do we just assume people are guilty if they're a certain nationality now? Tell that to the Guilford Four and B'ham Six.

Your correct.

But what matters, is, what they have done in Ireland, no more.

lagente

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1006/lackagh.html

Same named guy robbing headstones and stuff from graveyards. Guards objected to bail because of something bigger it seems.

biko

Jack_Russell wrote: »

This thread will doubtless be immediately closed

Yup.

Feel free to start threads on immigration and crime but stating we're letting scum in isn't a good start.
I don't know how many immigrants are getting into crime but a guess is that they are vastly outnumbered by far by homegrown scumbags.

To be clear, I'm all for a civil discussion on immigrants and crime but as soon as it turns nasty it's closed, like this was.