Malev ceases operations

arbour

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL5E8D30IC20120203?irpc=932

Looks like a plane was stopped taking off from ireland because of losses. I presume this was from DUB.
Not good week for aviation in europe

Erper

does anyone knows for how long?

Davidth88

Just seen this too on the Beeb

Hungarian airline Malev collapses

The Hungarian national airline Malev has folded after its financial situation became unsustainable.

"At 0500 GMT... after 66 years of almost continuous operation Malev will no longer take off," it said.

It came after the European Commission ordered Malev to repay various forms of state aid received from 2007 to 2010.

The sums involved amounted to 38 billion forints (130m euros; $171m; £108m), a sum equal to its entire 2010 revenue.



doesn't look good.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16866872


This is from the Dublin Airport w/site

Budapest Malev MA623 03 Feb 07:30 Cancelled

Blue Punto

BYE BYE MALEV

HA-LOB by niallsaviation, on Flickr

highlydebased

15 737's to arrive at Shannon today for storage

RadioRetro

Arriving from 1400 to 1800 according to @IrishAero on Twitter.

clintondaly

Ryanair to the rescue



http://europeaninvestor.com/SiteFiles/company/company.asp?GUID=0C48EE3DC3CCE74D87D92ECF2C22EEC3&PressID=49283&Customer=1&CompanyCode=ie-rya&MenuItem=91&wtLang=English

http://www.portfolio.hu/en/economy/wizz_air_responds_to_hungary_malev_collapse_with_66_capacity_boost.23734.html

Zonda999

Wizz air to the rescue too, that was quick..

http://www.portfolio.hu/en/economy/wizz_air_responds_to_hungary_malev_collapse_with_66_capacity_boost.23734.html

DOCARCH

'Ryanair, the world's favourite airline...'

You have to love them!

roundymac

Ya, they have been sniffing around there latly talking about reopening services out of Budapest. Obivously waiting for today, all plans in place, as business operators you do have to admire their ability to read a situation and be ready to act. For once I say well MOL.:D

Bessarion

roundymac wrote: »

Ya, they have been sniffing around there latly talking about reopening services out of Budapest. Obivously waiting for today, all plans in place.............

The FR base at BUD was announced at least a week ago, I read it in AnnaAeroe and FLight Global.

Shame about MA, but they haven't been well for a few years. I think they were privatised then re-nationalised when it went south. They stopped longhaul about a year or 2 ago. Making ends meet since then, this demand was the nail in the coffin.

I'm sure FR were aware of the possibility of this happening. The spot a gap and go for it.

Funkstard

Where will they be stored in Shannon? In a hangar or on an apron?

EDIT: Let's hope they don't suffer the same fate as that old Iberia...

A320

Funkstard wrote: »

Where will they be stored in Shannon? In a hangar or on an apron?

EDIT: Let's hope they don't suffer the same fate as that old Iberia...

Prob parked along various out of use taxiways,theres no hangar space thats for sure,i hear some spanairs will be arriving onto shannon too

Tenger

Funkstard wrote: »

Where will they be stored in Shannon? In a hangar or on an apron?

EDIT: Let's hope they don't suffer the same fate as that old Iberia...

All are quite new aircraft that belong to leasing companies, they will be repainted and sent elsewhere within a few months.

This link shows there reg and construction number, showing 13 Malev aircraft being ferried to SNN.
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3

Top of the list is HA-LOJ; built in 2004.
http://www.airframes.org/


In addition Wizzair are to open a base in BUD as well. This could be interesting as FR and WZ have never gone head to head like this so far in the European market. Having both LCC's based here will quash any chance of a Malev revival along the lines of Swissair/Swiss or Sabena/SN Brussels Airlines.

jakdublin

What happens if you've booked flights with them? I've got flights going in June

mcdee6174

A photo of the Malev 737 Impounded at Dublin

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcdee6174/6812620865/in/photostream

L1011

jakdublin wrote: »

What happens if you've booked flights with them? I've got flights going in June

Credit card chargeback if you booked by CC. If you booked on debit card or cash directly you're out of luck.

CaptainSkidmark

Have they arrived at shannon or on route?

Piri

on route

funhouse18

Was it the DAA that impounded it looking for payment?

veetwin

DOCARCH wrote: »

'Ryanair, the world's favourite airline...'

You have to love them!

Indeed Just checked a random weekend trip to BUD from DUB next month costs less than €20 return!

Very sad to see them go though. They were nice to fly with and the staff had a real pride in their airline. Back in the good old days I had a gold frequent flyer card with them. Neglected to claim any awards though:(

roundymac

veetwin wrote: »

Indeed Just checked a random weekend trip to BUD from DUB next month costs less than €20 return!

Very sad to see them go though. They were nice to fly with and the staff had a real pride in their airline. Back in the good old days I had a gold frequent flyer card with them. Neglected to claim any awards though:(

And the grub was'nt bad either.:)

Turbine

funhouse18 wrote: »

Was it the DAA that impounded it looking for payment?

No they were just moved to a remote stand, so that the air-bridge they were on could be used.

They don't owe any debts to the DAA.

Xpro

Sad to see them go. I used them quit a lot, very good airline, i especially liked their Embraer 120 fleet.

Dacian

Piri wrote: »

on route

A poster on another site posted a screen capture from a flight radar site that showed a veritable convoy of 5-6 Malev B738 over Central Europe enroute to SNN.

eyeinthesky

What a sight, just like WW2 on a bombing mission.Would be nice to be in Shannon tonight with lots of liquid to keep out the cold and your ADS-B .

puppetmaster

I count 9 on route atm on flight radar 24 . Suppose to be leavin Budapest every 15mins from 7pm

Johnny901

A Malev Dash 8 is also due into Shannon to take the crews home.
Sad day for those guys and gals.

tippilot

Bessarion wrote: »

The FR base at BUD was announced at least a week ago, I read it in AnnaAeroe and FLight Global.

No. There is a difference between a destination and a base.

L1011

tippilot wrote: »

No. There is a difference between a destination and a base.

My reading of their new PR puff piece is that is is a base, 4 aircraft intended to be based there.

That may not have been their plans before yesterday though!

N7777G

The EU boffins have short memories ....


HA-LOH B737-8Q8 Malev by eigjb, on Flickr

I wonder when they'll tell Air France to pay back the billions they got from the French taxpayer ..... I won't be holding my breath

Run_to_da_hills

FR 738's hovering around BUD like vultures waiting for the kill.

tippilot

MYOB wrote: »

tippilot wrote: »

No. There is a difference between a destination and a base.

My reading of their new PR puff piece is that is is a base, 4 aircraft intended to be based there.

That may not have been their plans before yesterday though!

Referring to an earlier poster who said a base was announced two weeks ago. Destination announced a couple of weeks ago, base yesterday.

xflyer

Well FR will certainly have a pool of potential 737 Captains to hire from.

People are quick to criticise FR for moving in fast. But we can now all see which business model works and which doesn't.

Run_to_da_hills

roundymac wrote: »

And the grub was'nt bad either.:)

The grub on Ryanair is not bad either.

kub

xflyer wrote: »

Well FR will certainly have a pool of potential 737 Captains to hire from.

People are quick to criticise FR for moving in fast. But we can now all see which business model works and which doesn't.

So the crew from the plane that was impounded in Dub, how do they get home? Tumb a lift to SNN and board the Dash 8 with the crews from the incoming convoy of 737's?

Would it have been a good idea if FR just had some machines in SNN ready to roll when the Malev crews arrived in? So all then they would need is a few biro's, contracts and new ID badges for the Malev crews.
Then the ex Malev lads can fly the FR 73's back and take up their original routes tomorrow........wouldn't MOL love if it was that easy?

tippilot

kub wrote: »

Would it have been a good idea if FR just had some machines in SNN ready to roll when the Malev crews arrived in?

Different airline, different SOP's so it's not that easy. All crew would have to do an Operator Conversion Course in the sim. It will take months to bring any crew online.

That's assuming they pass the course. Failure rates from other airlines gone bust have not always been what you'd expect.

So expect any FR aircraft in BUD to be crewed by existing FR staff for the forseeable future.

joegriffinjnr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/6816518003/in/photostream/

Lineup at Shannon. Very sad photo.

markpb

Why are they parked at Shannon? I presume they have the space available?

joegriffinjnr

As far as I know they were leased from an Irish leasing company.

L1011

ILFC who are "Irish" in terms of operations, registration etc. US firm in origins though.

Funkstard

Are they on 13/31?

highlydebased

Funkstard wrote: »

Are they on 13/31?

13/31, Taxiway 12 and Taxiway 7.

Tenger

MYOB wrote: »

My reading of their new PR puff piece is that is is a base, 4 aircraft intended to be based there.

That may not have been their plans before yesterday though!

Here is the original article from Anna Aero,

re-realising I realise my impression that it was a 'base' was mistaken. Looks like original plan is 5 new routes from existing bases:
http://www.anna.aero/2012/01/25/ryanair-returns-to-budapest-with-five-routes-for-summer/

drdeadlift

xflyer wrote: »

Well FR will certainly have a pool of potential 737 Captains to hire from.

People are quick to criticise FR for moving in fast. But we can now all see which business model works and which doesn't.

You cant expect lcc and flag carriers to operate similar business models,i wouldnt expect fr to act any other way its business.

mayotom

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/6816518003/in/photostream/

Lineup at Shannon. Very sad photo.

How many are in Shannon now??

Is there an airline in place to take up their order book. They have 15 Sukoi 100 Superjets on order

L1011

The Superjet is being delivered so slowly I suspect they'll just delete the orders from the backlog to try and ensure they get closer to the original agreed dates with the other purchasers.

Skuxx

mayotom wrote: »

How many are in Shannon now??

12 I think, but I'm not 100% on that!! Supposed to be 8 Spanair a320's coming to Shannon over the next few days aswell!

Buffman

I see another Malev 737 HA-LOP on approach to Shannon at the moment, so how many is that so far, 13?

James.

mcdee6174 wrote: »

A photo of the Malev 737 Impounded at Dublin

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcdee6174/6812620865/in/photostream

funhouse18 wrote: »

Was it the DAA that impounded it looking for payment?

http://www.independent.ie/business/european/ryanair-rushes-to-add-26-routes-as-malev-collapses-3009803.html

Saturday February 04 2012
THE Irish arm of the ground-handling firm Servisair surrounded Hungarian flag carrier Malev's aircraft at Dublin airport yesterday.

Servisair is understood to be owed a significant amount of money from the collapsed airline. At least four of Servisair's vehicles were strategically placed around the Boeing 737 aircraft within hours of the national airline going bust.

Aircraft maintenance firm Dublin Aerospace has been engaged by the owner of the Malev aircraft, Los Angeles-based leasing firm IFLC, to secure possession of the property on its behalf.

The aircraft, which had been due to fly from Dublin to Budapest yesterday at 7.30am with 113 passengers, was due to be moved by Dublin Aerospace to a disused runway at Dublin Airport last night. It is thought that the Dublin Airport Authority isn't owed any significant amount of money by Malev.

Run_to_da_hills

James. wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/business/european/ryanair-rushes-to-add-26-routes-as-malev-collapses-3009803.html

Saturday February 04 2012
THE Irish arm of the ground-handling firm Servisair surrounded Hungarian flag carrier Malev's aircraft at Dublin airport yesterday.

Servisair is understood to be owed a significant amount of money from the collapsed airline. At least four of Servisair's vehicles were strategically placed around the Boeing 737 aircraft within hours of the national airline going bust.

Aircraft maintenance firm Dublin Aerospace has been engaged by the owner of the Malev aircraft, Los Angeles-based leasing firm IFLC, to secure possession of the property on its behalf.

The aircraft, which had been due to fly from Dublin to Budapest yesterday at 7.30am with 113 passengers, was due to be moved by Dublin Aerospace to a disused runway at Dublin Airport last night. It is thought that the Dublin Airport Authority isn't owed any significant amount of money by Malev.

What's the point of impounding a leased aircraft?