Supercar for €39k brand new

unkel

You gotta be jealous of the lack of exorbitant taxes on new cars in the US:

6.2l V8, 580BHP, RWD, 2012 Chevy Camaro SS



That kinda money would buy you a VW Passat 2l diesel 170BHP here

Voodoomelon

Makes ya sick alright. You can get a brand new M3 coupe for $62000.

langdang

Fierce expensive to tax her!
I'll take the passat instead please.

The Camaro SS is so bloody cool!

I planned on renting one when I'm visiting the US but they wont allow separate pick up and drop off points for cars in that class :mad:

Creamy Goodness

pity it won't go around corners :pac:

unkel

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Makes ya sick alright. You can get a brand new M3 coupe for $62000.

Didn't believe ya, so looked it up: $60,100 RRP, so before any discount. €45k for an M3. Here you can't even get a 4 pot 2l M-sport 320 coupe for that...

unkel

Porsche Cayman for €39k. Over here you can get a Scirocco 2l TSI for that. It's depressing, I'll stop now

conzy

unkel wrote: »

Didn't believe ya, so looked it up: $60,100 RRP, so before any discount. €45k for an M3. Here you can't even get a 4 pot 2l M-sport 320 coupe for that...

hmmm could you order a RHD one over there for that kind of money? ahh no use would cost €90k to VRT it here probably

EPM

unkel wrote: »

Porsche Cayman for €39k. Over here you can get a Scirocco 2l TSI for that. It's depressing, I'll stop now

Please do. I'm stuck in a diesel Skoda, if I looked at what one of these would buy over there in think I'd shoot myself.

Tea 1000

Those US prices are excluding all taxes, so you have to apply the local tax to whatever state you're in to the price. Still cheap, but you'll probably find that an M3 with tax in the US is similar to an M3 in a country in Europe with similarly low tax.
The Corvette and Camaro are lunacy money though!

h3000

I'm sorry I started reading this thread :(


















Me want fast car.

Tea 1000

h3000 wrote: »

I'm sorry I started reading this thread :(

Me want fast car.

You can have fast car... you just need to uncheck the "live in Ireland" checkbox in your life.

Creamy Goodness

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

pity it won't go around corners :pac:

I think the lack of ability american sports cars have to go around corners is exaggerated a lot.

Twin-go

Philip Melodic Stinger wrote: »

I think the lack of ability american sports cars have to go around corners is exaggerated a lot.

There is a difference between a sports car and a muscle car.

I rented a Mustang (4.6 V8) a couple of years back over there and while it was fast, very fast it wallowed around a bit and lurched around corners.

They may be getting better but still miles away from the like of M3 handeling.

JerCotter7

Twin-go wrote: »

There is a difference between a sports car and a muscle car.

I rented a Mustang (4.6 V8) a couple of years back over there and while it was fast, very fast it wallowed around a bit and lurched around corners.

They may be getting better but still miles away from the like of M3 handeling.

What about the Viper ACR or C6 ZR1. Although they are more expensive and not a "normal" looking muscle car I suppose.

cabrwab

Yeah but that car uses the chassis off the monoro or vxr8! Can't remember which do actually can go around corners.
Most yank mobiles are boats though!

DonJose

I'm moving back to Mexico this summer, I can get the new VW Golf GTI 35 for just €24k and petrol costs just €0.58/liter!!!

Alanstrainor

DonJose wrote: »

I'm moving back to Mexico this summer, I can get the new VW Golf GTI 35 for just €24k and petrol costs just €0.58/liter!!!

Build us a lil pipe line would ya?!?

Eoin

Philip Melodic Stinger wrote: »

I think the lack of ability american sports cars have to go around corners is exaggerated a lot.

It's a phenomenon called clarksonbollockitus.

Voodoomelon

unkel wrote: »

Didn't believe ya, so looked it up: $60,100 RRP, so before any discount. €45k for an M3. Here you can't even get a 4 pot 2l M-sport 320 coupe for that...

Yup, its mental. The gas guzzler tax and misc charges brings it up to $62000 if you go to build one.

The thing with the States though is that there are so many nice cars about. There are a HUGE amount of shítboxes for sure, but you're likely to see a Bentley or Ferrari for every 10 regular cars. To me, it makes owning a nice car a lot less special as there will always be someone to pull up next to you and grin knowingly from their infinitely better car. Would I say no to a Mustang though? Hell no! :pac:

Alanstrainor

Would I be right in saying that the second hand market is quite different over there though. Not that I was looking at buying a car state side, but when I was there last Summer I noticed 10 year old second hand run of the mill ****e was quite expensive! 5/6000 dollars for a crummy looking taurus or what ever it was. Only noticed this passing through a few places with car dealerships...don't know how true it is, they all could've just been rip offs!

Tropheus

A few years back I was in Seattle and saw an Audi Q7 Premium advertised for $59k. I had a look at the spec online and it had a mega list of options as standard including full leather, SatNav/TV, 20" wheels, rear entertainment system, etc.

I went onto Audi.ie and specced up a Q7 with the same list of options for over €90k.

The things you do when you're alone in a hotel room:(

Tea 1000

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that the second hand market is quite different over there though. Not that I was looking at buying a car state side, but when I was there last Summer I noticed 10 year old second hand run of the mill ****e was quite expensive! 5/6000 dollars for a crummy looking taurus or what ever it was. Only noticed this passing through a few places with car dealerships...don't know how true it is, they all could've just been rip offs!

You're right there, unreal used prices on cars. Those prices listed here are all prices before local taxes. But even with those added on, they're still cheap brand new. However the crap that $5,000 would land you wouldn't be worth paying a scrappie to take from you over here.
Maybe we should club together and start moving used cars from here over there and new ones from there over here!

Sobanek

$45k for a Touareg

Hogzy

unkel wrote: »

Didn't believe ya, so looked it up: $60,100 RRP, so before any discount. €45k for an M3. Here you can't even get a 4 pot 2l M-sport 320 coupe for that...

Just to let ye know that price does not include sales tax. Sales tax can be anywhere from 5 to 10% depending on the state. Alot of states also have a Gas Guzzler tax which can be as high as $3000. Registration fees in each state are usually another 10% of the purchase price. So you can add at least 11-15K if you are buying it in California.

I know its still dirt cheap and makes me sick to be honest.

Matt Simis

Twin-go wrote: »

There is a difference between a sports car and a muscle car.

I rented a Mustang (4.6 V8) a couple of years back over there and while it was fast, very fast it wallowed around a bit and lurched around corners.

They may be getting better but still miles away from the like of M3 handeling.

You cannot use Mustang as a benchmark of handling. Its the worst on offer and always was. The Camaro and others are nothing like that and have much more European suspension setups.

Go back and try something else!

SouperComputer

Cash for Clunkers absolutely killed the quality of used cars available at "reasonable" cost over here. On the flip side "imports" can be picked up cheap because they are "complicated", "expensive to get parts for" and "hard to get parts for". All of which is bollox of course, but meh.

The Mustang is never going to be an M3 from the factory or near it in the handling department, its not meant to be any more than an M3 is meant to be a muscle car. Different design targets, different audiences.

langdang

SouperComputer wrote: »

On the flip side "imports" can be picked up cheap because they are "complicated", "expensive to get parts for" and "hard to get parts for".

Didn't think they had many modern european diesels over there yet?

WestWing

Bargain.

WestWing

WestWing

FFS. A T6 AWD for €31k.

Wolverine_1999

Brand new Golf GTI, roughly €18,500 ($23,995)

Gahhh I hate :mad: this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shamrock55

that chevy is the coolest looking car ive seen in a long time:cool:

inforfun

Porn for $41.000

tossy

It's certainly a car,but big engine and big power don't make it 'super',a bargain muscle car maybe,but (in my opinion) it's ugly as sin and probably handles like contrary sheep trying to resist the shearers shears!

IrishZeus

I drove one of those for a week when I was over in the states. Loved every second of it

Only thing is that they're very difficult to see out of - you sit way down in the car. Would still have one in the morning though!!

scoobymunster

Isn't the pay in America worse than it is in Ireland though? i.e. if your a mechanic/teacher/doctor whatever, would you be on a similar pay there as you are here or much less? minimum wage is about 5 euro I think?

pcardin

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Not if your in a decent job, I work for an American company and they tend to level the pay across the board no matter where you are located. My wage is the same as the guys in UK/US and OZ.

as low or as high? :pac: